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VivaLeBeaver · 04/03/2020 17:48

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ofwarren · 04/03/2020 23:29

USA- 2 more U.S. Forces Korea dependents in South Korea have tested positive for coronavirus, raising total to 6 cases for USFK-related personnel: statement

1 of the 6 cases is an active-duty service member. The others are dependents.

RedToothBrush · 04/03/2020 23:29

red you seem to be getting singled out a lot by some

I think there's a lot of people unable to access risk in a meaningful way.

There are people getting worked up about things they can't control or are simply missing the real issue.

And there are people determined to see this as a deliberately planned event.

I'm afraid I'm very cynical about the whole thing.

Ultimately we are at the mercy of a government who arent very proactive or visionary and prefer slogans to details. And we are stuffed because of it.

mymigraine · 04/03/2020 23:30

previous poster said Chinese schools were closed before and during the entire Wuhan outbreak. If it doesn't spread as easily as flu then you would be able to not infect your children at home

Furfockssake · 04/03/2020 23:30

@RedToothBrush It's a naturally occurring virus that is long overdue and governments who have had years to research SARs didn't. And they didn't have a coherent and cohesive Containment plan. International cooperation has largely been lacking (see the decision to withdraw from all EU organisations including the one relating to pandemic early warning). There are many many missed opportunities through inaction, complacency and good old fashioned idiocy

Totally agree. It's absolutely accepted by experts as one of the greatest threats to human kind, and we don't even have big enough stockpiles of protective gear for an outbreak of an airborne (droplet) virus. No money put into an overarching viral treatment or vaccine - all requested in last year's WHO report, but they listed all the barriers to containing outbreaks like this and they are all happening. No investment, no political interest, hoarding of supplies in emergencies ..... just typical human disinterest in something which isn't immediately important.

Wehttam · 04/03/2020 23:31

But what I and I’m sure many others here would like to know is what exactly happens if this isn’t mild? There are many horror stories flying around and plenty of videos from China and also Iran. What does it do, what is it we should be fearful of? Can anyone here expand on this please? If we are expecting the hospitals to fill up, what will be the main issues?

Nicepud · 04/03/2020 23:32

Ultimately we are at the mercy of a government who arent very proactive or visionary and prefer slogans to details. And we are stuffed because of it

Amen to that.

Furfockssake · 04/03/2020 23:33

@Wehttam the Government are expecting the hospitals to fill up. At that point, according to their website, anyone who can be sent home will be sent home. I saw somewhere they could take over army barracks (sorry, can't remember the source, may or may not be accurate). That's why it's important to help slow the spread of the disease so that not everyone gets it at the same time.

HeIenaDove · 04/03/2020 23:33

Im seeing figures for cases in southern Italy now. Molise has either 1 or 3 according to reports.

Sassenach85 · 04/03/2020 23:34

I 100% believe the patient info about this is being handled by the govt including the slow release of info in order to not cause panic. Mild disease my arse

mymigraine · 04/03/2020 23:36

Wettham pneumonia and brain infection leading to respiratory and other organ failure. I would have thought you knew that.

Furfockssake · 04/03/2020 23:37

@Sassenach85 it's not necessarily about the severity of the disease, it's about the numbers. Even at a low infection rate of 5% (Gov predicting worst case scenario an 80% infection rate), with a fatality rate of 3.4% that's still over 100,000 people dying. The number of people with complications is, or was, around 20% of cases - that's an enormous number of people ending up at hospital. We don't have the resources to treat all of those people, and certainly not at the same time.

attatiti · 04/03/2020 23:37

GPs are no longer testing....

GPs have never been testing. Testing has been gate-keeping and arranged by PHE or 111 since the start.

Wehttam · 04/03/2020 23:37

Dusty I didn’t want to ask your question incase people thought it was fear mongering. I’m intrigued too, I think we are at a point now where we need clarity on what the F we are facing. Until this happens the backstory will become an urban legend. Where are the cured?

usernameishistory · 04/03/2020 23:37

I thought there was a plan for CPAPs.to be sent for home use to force air entry in pneumonia

RedToothBrush · 04/03/2020 23:38

The problem with increased life expectancy is health is very fragile at the sharp end of that.

It's unsurprising that a singular natural event has the potential to have an exaggerated effect.

Never have we had so many elderly people who make up such a significant part of the population.

Covid-19 occurring 20 years ago is unlikely to have had quite the same potency for that reason.

I feel rather powerless against the natural element in that.

We have had the luxury, particularly in the west, of death being a rarity rather than a regular occurance we are psychologically better equipped to deal with for that reason.

I think I am philosophical in that sense.

But I am also very aware that the severity of the situation could have been avoided with a little more foresight and good management by government.

Everyone has different ways to cope with this. Not everyone is going to appreciate everyone else's approach.

usernameishistory · 04/03/2020 23:38

Have been checked for cv19 by GP

Wehttam · 04/03/2020 23:38

mymigraine as I said in my post, there are many theories and plenty of videos that could potentially be faked but because no one actually has said what happens, I’m still not exactly sure. But thank you.

screamer1 · 04/03/2020 23:39

Surely the lack of reports from recovered people is because the cat majority of them will be in China. They're hardly going to be giving an interview to the Sun are they?

If you've had it very mildly there's probably not much to say.

Sassenach85 · 04/03/2020 23:40

You feel really bad can’t breathe think youve got a chest infection ... you go to hosp
Nope can’t do that no room

You take antibiotics
Nope can’t do that it’s viral

The guy in that story went to hosp, he was worried he went to get help, we are going to be facing the prospect of there being NO help? I need to try n sleep Sad

Furfockssake · 04/03/2020 23:41

@Wehttam I was wondering today whether the cured have been told not to disclose who they are for personal safety reasons? I don't know.

Branster · 04/03/2020 23:42

mymigrane thanks for the answer to Wttham. I didn’t actually know that either.

mymigraine · 04/03/2020 23:42

just a touch of pneumonia Screamer1

Wehttam · 04/03/2020 23:43

screamer maybe not the Sun but the CCP has state media, unless I’m wrong there hasn’t been any cured people before their media.

screamer1 · 04/03/2020 23:44

@mymigraine that's not what I said. If you've got pneumonia you're also not likely to be giving an interview to the Sun either are you.