Worried about coronavirus part 11

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updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

Youare people will be alarmed at the Abel’s testing positive again. I’m seeing reports of this happening quite a lot, hopefully soon there will be some clarity on whether this thing actually ever leaves you.

Please don’t click on S*n links! There’s plenty other news sources reporting same story about breathalyser masks.

@Wehttam they could have previously had false negatives. Its very strange, did you watch the video and hear them mention the 700 people from the cruise ship who are all continuing to test positive?

BBC Coronavirus podcast starting today.

China instructs all local governments, except Beijing and Hubei province, to streamline the "orderly return to work"

With regards to the Abels testing, does that mean we might expect the case from Hertfordshire Mount Vernon cancer centre to do so?

As they were initially confirmed positive for the virus but then tested negative.

DH off to large international conference abroad later this week. I still hope it'll be called off. Risk is prob similar to here (already cases near me) except airport and flying but it's more the idea of him being ill abroad or us being sick when he's away.

But my individual worries are nothing compared to the overall global situation, esp third world countries and refugees.

On the plus side just found a huge 250ml bottle of alcohol hand gel under a pile of junk at work so I won't need to use mine anymore!

@EgonSpengler2020 thanks for the job you do. My daughter is hcp and I’m worried for you all. What’s the feeling amongst you and your colleagues? That you should be attending wearing protective gear?

youare very strange indeed. Essentially they are sleeping for the majority of the day except a few hours here and there. Reassuring their chests have cleared up, we can only wait and see what happens with them, I hope they get home soon though because something doesn’t feel right.

They’ve had a horrid time, I bet they wish they’d never set foot on that damned ship, as I’m sure the other passengers and crew do too.

Iran reports 586 new cases of coronavirus and 15 new deaths, raising total to 2,922 cases and 92 dead t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Someone in the office has tested positive, central London, so I would guess uses public transport which is concerning. They haven’t been in the office for one week.

I have a commitment this evening at a social club for older ladies, I do not sit on the same floor as coronavirus person, but obviously share facilities. I feel absolutely fine, but I am thinking not to go this evening just in case? What do you think?

@YouAreTheEggManIAmTheWalrus

Makes you wonder how they can be so definite in declaring people to have had a negative CV test.

Very worrying. Some viruses do have multi phase acitivty or can remain dormant.. Nobody knows the long term health effects of this thing.

One senior medic in Japan was saying on newsnight last night that it is def under-diagnosed and he said there were sure to be tens of thousands of people infected in Japan

As they were initially confirmed positive for the virus but then tested negative.

This was the false positive case I think? If so saying that it was a false positive indicates that there is strong reason to believe that the positive result was incorrect - maybe the original test was cross-contaminated in the lab for instance. Regardless, they will not have been declared negative on the basis of a single test.

ofwarren orderly return to work, only to get infected in 2nd wave don’t you think?

This was the false positive case I think?

How do we know it was a false positive, and not that the subsequent test/s were a false negative?

I've been googling and here's a list of nos of tests per day in UK . No idea if any significance in the numbers ,but thought I'd put them here for wiser people to look at and say "yeah ,so what ? "

The extension of tests to some patients with no travel history was announced on 26 Feb .

I agree that any postive tests from the wider community would be shown ,so think only 1 community acquired - Surrey or Essex ?

6 February 566 tests

10 Feb - 1,114 tested

12 February 1,758 tests

20 Feb 5,549

27 February 7,690

28 Feb more than 7,000

29 February 10,483

1 March, 11,750

2 March 2020, 13,525

3 March 13,911

The superdrughand gel is now sold out again... that didn't last long!

How do we know it was a false positive, and not that the subsequent test/s were a false negative?

Well I don't know the details of the case, so I don't know for certain. But presumably there was good reason to declare it a false positive. I do not think that someone would be cleared to go back to work in a cancer unit without being sure it was safe in the current climate.

@RazzleDazzle26 I wouldn't go in your position, just in case. Chances are you don't have anything, but better safe than sorry.

@ofwarren
@Wehttam
Return started last Monday and no second spike yet. Plus strict quarantine in place to prevent infection from people arriving from outside China.

That list isn't number of tests per day. It's cumulative tests up to the given date.

I've been wondering about the tests done vs positive figures, given the speculation that results could be six days in coming.

I don't think it's beyond the gov to announce "tests taken" as a current, up-to-the-minute figure, then announce "results" as they come in, however many days later. It massages the figures nicely, while remaining technically truthful - looking like a lower percentage of those who have been tested are positive.

Say 100 people are tested on day one - no positive results 0/100
Day two 150 tested, no positive results 0/250
Day three 250 tested, no positive 0/500
Day four 500 tested and the first positive comes in from day one; as reported that could show as 1/1000, when actually it's the 1/100 from day one.
Iyswim?

Ah yes ,I'm hopeless at numbers ! But I guess it also could shows nosof tests per day ,subtracting one total from a previous total ? Or am I showing how stupid I am ?

Also been wondering, given the possibility of false negatives (I did see 70% accuracy somewhere - can't remember where though and whether it was scaremongering or sciencey, so don't quote me!), if someone's initial test is negative, what are the criteria to retest them?

to repeat. it's not taking 6 days for test results. it's taking about 24 hours