Worried about coronavirus part 11

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Previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3837712-Worried-about-coronavirus-part-10?pg=10

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

We now have a drive thru coronavirus testing pod at our local hospital (York). Also a pedestrian option.

However you can only get tested with a 111 referral - I wonder if they'll start providing referrals for those who have had no known contact with a case?

What impact will this have on our lives.
It's the fear of the unknown I guess.

I think this is what's driving my anxiety so much. I feel completely helpless. Extremely worried about the impact on my family, but and yet most people don't seem concerned and are just carrying on as normal.

It even crossed my mind to rent out an isolated cottage in the Highlands for a few months to ride it out.

Is anyone else starting to have anxiety about this?

Yup. I feel like it's the Sword of Damocles hanging over my head. I think it's the not knowing when it'll happen or how bad it will be. Doing my best to distract myself with other activities, but at the same time being as on top of the information as possible.

Hmm we are having issues with school anyway and I'm half tempted just to pull her and home school!

ShanghaiDiva That's measures against re-importing the disease, very sensible
However, the concern I have read about is a 2nd wave arriving from cases within China

@swingchandelier
Anyone who has lived in China, will tell you that drinking warm water is a standard response for every illness! Made me smile when I saw it in the list.

Fifteen Italian citizens test positive in India

In India, fifteen Italian citizens have tested positive for coronavirus, Indian state and private media said on Wednesday, citing unidentified sources. Reuters reports that on Monday, an Italian citizen tested positive in the state of Rajasthan, according to a health official.
The guardian live feed

Is anyone else starting to have anxiety about this? I mean it’s consuming a lot of my waking thoughts and I feel like we are heading for a major change in life and nobody I know seems to believe it

I think you have to stop worrying about persuading others. Focus on you and yours. Get yourselves into a good position where you could cope well with a lockdown for a few weeks and general disruption for a few months, you've thought about the point at which you'd pull your DC from school and you know you have what you need to deal with your family being ill (usual flu meds, thermometer, fluid replacement powders, loo roll, hand sanitiser and masks if poss). Then you act responsibly and keep away from others as much as you can for the forseeable future whilst maintaining a semblance of normality for your DC.

If you do all that then hopefully you can go about your routine feeling calm since there's simply nothing more you can do. Others will get there in their own time.

@Banana0pancakes

Fairy liquid would certainly do the trick but it might be hard on your hands after a while. You would be better with normal soap.

If people have cracked hands, they could try using germolene or savalon. In fact, if you had no gel, using an antiseptic cream on your hands would be better than nothing.

Wuhan doctor who worked with whistle-blower Li Wenliang dies after contracting coronavirus on front line
www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3064830/wuhan-doctor-who-worked-whistle-blower-li-wenliang-dies-after

Im incredibly anxious too. Its definitely fear of the unknown.
I keep wondering how the antiviral trials are getting on

@BigChocFrenzy
Control measures started to be relaxed last Monday so let’s see what happens. I know there were quarantine measures in place if you travelled between cities/provinces, but not sure if that is still the case. I am sure the Chinese are monitoring the situation to avoid a second spike.

Scrolling through my facebook is another world. Nobody mentions it

Hakuna that's been my worry and thankfully even my 8 year old could feed herself now which is relieves the burdon somewhat.

Lady at work whose been extremely causal about it all stopped dead when I said I'd spent the weekend thinking about what my dc would eat if we we're both ill... '' oh shit, of course... '' it's so contagious.

You need to think about how you would care for them or who would step in

Is anyone else starting to have anxiety about this? I mean it’s consuming a lot of my waking thoughts and I feel like we are heading for a major change in life and nobody I know seems to believe it

Yes I’m getting worried. I work in Edinburgh airport, have an autoimmune condition and my daily medication is a chemotherapy drug. I’m overanalysing every cough and sneeze, but don’t get high temps when ill so can’t monitor that.
I mostly wfh but still make a point of going in once a week roughly. I don’t want to look like I’m taking the piss and stay at home all the time since the only case in Scotland so far is in Dundee (I think).

I work with aircraft engineers so am imagining them carrying the virus to the office and onto me 😔 it’s quite worrying

Is there anyone else thinking they’d rather get Corona now when the system has capacity to deal with any issues than at the peak? Have there ever been experiments of controlled exposure where people are deliberately infected to spread a peak?

Our Headteacher continues to be great and updated again yesterday (she has done every day since Saturday). No cases but one teacher who has not been abroad or near anyone who has has said she has a slight chesty cough so is not coming in. I think the idea there was if she gives this chesty cough to anyone who has lung conditions, and then they catch CV it could make it worse for them.

I wish it was the same for us. Nobody is bothered, HR, boss, team.

A colleague is due back from overseas Monday (not from a CV hot spot) and sits next to me. She catches every bug going, is in an ask risk category and sits right on top of me.

Everybody else in the office jokes or dismisses CV. They don't have kids, so maybe it's the worry for my asthmatic son that makes me more bothered. Then again, they have their heads in the sand - didn't know there was panic buying or even what the symptoms are - yet 2 work in HR and I would have at least thought it would have ventured on to their radar.

I know this is very unscientific, and not in keeping with the thread... but if you have seen the Handmaids Tale you will have seen how gradual it all was, everything changing under their noses and the mass population didn’t realise until it was too late

Obviously this is a totally different situation but it struck me how true to life that is, the information is there on the news and online but people just can’t see it

I guess you are right I need to just focus on my own little family but I care for people and it’s perhaps a personal trait that I feel some sort of responsibility to protect everyone (while they all call me mad behind my back!)

Sassenach85 I am not in the blase brigade as I work in healthcare and any outbreak of disease that could potentially cause pressure on limited bed numbers worries me. I am not more anxious about this virus, I would say normal level concerned, but as with everything perspective is always important.
Keep watching the figures, how many people in the UK, out of a population of 65 million have tested positive and how many of those have required ICU treatment as a result ?

BigChoc is that the ITB that's been cancelled ?

@swingchandelier in regards to drinking water as preventive measure against contracting the Coronavirus. If I’ve read your comments correctly you rubbished this. This very notion was aired in a radio/tv interview with an ‘expert’. I can’t remember who as there have been too many. I remember what was said as it made sense. He backed up what he was saying in so much as if you sip water every 10 to 15 minutes the virus won’t get the opportunity to get into the lungs as it will be ‘washed’ down into the stomach where stomach acid will kill it. He said it was very important to keep mouth and throat wet as the virus loves ‘dry’ a surface to adhere to. I’m not telling you off just sharing what I’d heard ‘officially’.

I agree there is a lot of rubbish being spouted. Boris for example saying he won’t stop shaking hands! Social distancing is the number 1 preventive self help measure we do need to do to help stop the spread.

"Have there ever been experiments of controlled exposure where people are deliberately infected to spread a peak?"

In any Western country, the risk of death & serious illness would rule out deliberately doing this to selected people

• it's not just a matter of suing; it would be gross professional misconduct for doctors, with likely criminal penalties too

However, broad government policy with that unannounced intention .... is possible

frumpety yep, the ITB tourism fair in Berlin was cancelled
Their grounds for doing this would apply to any international trade fair, imo

The German govt is thought to be also considering if / when to ban large gatherings of people for any purpose, like France & Switzerland have already done

Just checked the bbc news site on waking as I usually do (before I check here!) Is it me or is CV news now really dumbed down on there today?

I totally get your analogy Sassenach
Im not understanding people who aren't at least a little bit concerned.
Why would the government here be calling press conferences, putting the NHS on the highest level of alert, testing all these people and trying to "contain" it if it was just nothing?
I don't get the way their minds work.
Basically pooh pooing all the doctors and scientists who are saying that this needs containing as it's dangerous.

Only 1 confirmed case of Coronavirus yet they have over 300 in hospita and over 3000 more suspected cases which they have unofficially diagnosed

I wonder how many other countries are doing the same

Polish ministers said they didn’t want to scare the country so haven’t been doing official laboratory tests so they stay off the stats