Worried about coronavirus part 10

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updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

I had someone else yesterday saying to me that, “It’s no worse than flu....” I’ve given up trying to change their viewpoint because they just don’t want to hear it.

I am baffled by the UKs travel guidance. I’d be saying at this point because of most countries poor testing record, anyone coming from abroad needs to immediately self isolate.

Here are the stats - USA doing particularly badly.
South Korea 109000
Italy 23000
Austria 2000
Switzerland 1850
U.K. 13000
Finland 130
Turkey 940
USA 472

(From worldometer site)

does anyone know why the fatality rate was so high in Wuhan and then reduced ? Is that usual in an outbreak ?

I believe it was due to initial under identifying of mild cases. If you initially only recognise the severe cases the death rate will be higher. Eg if out of every 100 cases 10 are severe and 1 will die. If you just spot the severe ones then death rate will seem to be 10%. However once you see all the cases it would drop to 1%.

And with my experience of Swine Flu. In my family only 1 person out of 5 was diagnosed with it, and our GP didn't bother with the official test for them. However pretty much all of the rest of us had a "bug" around the same time, we just didn't have the spiking fever.

I'm wondering what will happen with schools.

Same here.

The advice so far has been almost non-existent, just a few posters and wash your hands. We have worried parents.As well as many other families who have returned from Italy and other affected countries, who have no idea what they're supposed to be doing.

@BunsyGirl I do think the self isolation advice, especially in terms of Italy is out of date.

I suspect there are economic factors involved in this - apparently 15000 people returned from Italy to just London last week. If you added in numbers coming from France, Germany and Spain, then you could lose a lot of key workers.

For most people it won't be worse than flu though, and they're selfish and not arsed about the impact on other people for whom it will likely be worse than flu @QueenofmyPrinces

@nellodee
The low number of cases among children is probably due to schools already being closed prior to the escalation of the number of cases. Children were already on holiday for spring festival from mid January. My dd’s school closed for the holiday on 23rd january and has yet to reopen. Not all areas have restrictions where only one person can leave home at a time.

Does anyone else feel very tired of the worry about this?

Not panicked. Just weary and resentful.

Or is it that they routinely have the flu vaccine and there is some crossover protection?

How would that even work SisterAgatha?

It's a totally unrelated virus.

What time do we find out the government plans today?
Starting work later today so not long got up!

Has there been no indication anywhere about when we will find out this “plan” today?

Latest from Japan. Medics are trying everything they can.

www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200303_20/

That makes sense, ShanghaiDiva. Are your children seeing any of their friends at the moment? I think that's the part mine would miss most. If people are not housebound, but schools are closed, do people cut out ALL social contact, or just avoid crowds?

Sassenach85

I can't seem to find a time for an official release.

I'm still not sure why it wasn't released yesterday.

Matt Hancock on BBC breakfast now.

Matt Hancock on BBC breakfast now.

Saying nothing new.

Here are the stats
U.K. 13000

Stats for what? 13000 what?

No of tests, Mary

True
I hoped he'd say when the official advice would be published...

FourTeaFallOut That may be, but there may be some crossover ingredient that we do not yet know of due to the nature of it being a novel virus. Correlation may be causation, who knows yet.

I watched the interviews with Boris and he was asked about this plan numerous times and totally deflected it, basically said wait until tomorrow

My initial thought to that was, it’s going to be something we dislike or question so he’s waiting until tomorrow when he can hide away again

Correlation may be causation, who knows yet.

By that logic we should start mainlining haribo and ribena.

Dd goes on a residential today and I'd have appreciated knowing the guidance before she went. We have a school social event this week too and I think it should be cancelled especially as some of the children have been in northern Italy and aren't being isolated.

@nellodee
Social contact is limited as only residents can enter your compound and everything was closed outside eg cinema, gym, school, restaurants, so nowhere to meet people except on the street/in open areas. However, this week controls are being relaxed and some restaurants have limited opening hours or are offering a take away option. Btw this is Jiangsu province, where we have around 600/700 cases in a population of 70 million.
We are now back in the uk and dd’s friends are also all over the world and some stayed in China. She misses them a lot.