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Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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mids2019 · 05/10/2026 05:49

So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

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Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:30

'And? she is an individual not representating the irish public'

But when you have a platform it matters. She supports a terrorist group and what people should be saying is 'fgs stupid woman' not 'oo her sales have soared!' As if they think that's a good thing?

It's a snap shot isn't it. A pp is a fan of Macklemore someone who mocked Jews in a very offensive outfit, others saying nothing to see here about Rooney's support for terrorism, that Herbert hotel <what a name fgs Confused> banning anti semitism events, football players wearing armbands, a Jewish memorial for a young girl murdered having to be in secret.

There's a bit of a pattern and what posters should be saying is I will stand up for anti semitism if I ever see it and I do not support Rooney lining the pockets of terrorist groups but nope. She can do as she pleases no one cares, fingers in ears la la la.

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2026 11:33

Maybe the hotel didn’t want someone associated with Epstein staying there.

Boolabus · 16/10/2026 11:37

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:26

I know people in the UK support Palestine Action
That doesn’t make it OK
I know her book sales in Ireland are not going to PA.
It’s disappointing to see that so many people are finding it amusing that she supports a proscribed terrorist group that fractured a woman’s spine with a sledgehammer.
I don’t know what you mean about lumping them in the same category as IRA and Hamas? They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups . Obviously some terrorists are much more extreme and dangerous.

It’s disappointing to see that so many people are finding it amusing that she supports a proscribed terrorist group that fractured a woman’s spine with a sledgehammer.
No don't think that's the case at all. I think she was clear in her statement that the individuals that did that could have been dealt with through existing UK laws. The designation of Palestine action as a terrorist organisation is a controversial one which many in the UK do not agree with so they would therefore not view their support of it in the same light as supporting Hamas. Afaik it's designation is now being appealed to the supreme court, there are many critics if its designation. That's where the amusement comes from, it's mocking the designation and highlighting that it's questionable.

I don’t know what you mean about lumping them in the same category as IRA and Hamas? They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups .
That's my point it's nonsensical that they are categorised the same. I know you won't agree with me but that's my view.

Tbh none of this discussion is relevant to this thread. Most Irish people know nothing about Palestine action or that they're a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK or even care.

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:39

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2026 11:33

Maybe the hotel didn’t want someone associated with Epstein staying there.

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:39

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2026 11:33

Maybe the hotel didn’t want someone associated with Epstein staying there.

And who would that be?

Boolabus · 16/10/2026 11:39

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:30

'And? she is an individual not representating the irish public'

But when you have a platform it matters. She supports a terrorist group and what people should be saying is 'fgs stupid woman' not 'oo her sales have soared!' As if they think that's a good thing?

It's a snap shot isn't it. A pp is a fan of Macklemore someone who mocked Jews in a very offensive outfit, others saying nothing to see here about Rooney's support for terrorism, that Herbert hotel <what a name fgs Confused> banning anti semitism events, football players wearing armbands, a Jewish memorial for a young girl murdered having to be in secret.

There's a bit of a pattern and what posters should be saying is I will stand up for anti semitism if I ever see it and I do not support Rooney lining the pockets of terrorist groups but nope. She can do as she pleases no one cares, fingers in ears la la la.

'fgs stupid woman' not 'oo her sales have soared!' As if they think that's a good thing?
People just highlighting the stupidity of it all. Oh and buying Sally Rooney book is not antisemitic

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:42

Boolabus · 16/10/2026 11:37

It’s disappointing to see that so many people are finding it amusing that she supports a proscribed terrorist group that fractured a woman’s spine with a sledgehammer.
No don't think that's the case at all. I think she was clear in her statement that the individuals that did that could have been dealt with through existing UK laws. The designation of Palestine action as a terrorist organisation is a controversial one which many in the UK do not agree with so they would therefore not view their support of it in the same light as supporting Hamas. Afaik it's designation is now being appealed to the supreme court, there are many critics if its designation. That's where the amusement comes from, it's mocking the designation and highlighting that it's questionable.

I don’t know what you mean about lumping them in the same category as IRA and Hamas? They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups .
That's my point it's nonsensical that they are categorised the same. I know you won't agree with me but that's my view.

Tbh none of this discussion is relevant to this thread. Most Irish people know nothing about Palestine action or that they're a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK or even care.

If you know so little about Palestine Action I don’t understand how you can have a view that they should not be classed as a terrorist group.

Maybe you should do a bit more research

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-23/debates/25062337000014/PalestineActionProscription

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:43

Statement from the Home Secretary

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I have decided to proscribe Palestine Action under section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000. A draft proscription order will be laid in Parliament on Monday 30 June. If passed, it will make it illegal to be a member of, or to invite support for, Palestine Action.

This decision is specific to Palestine Action and does not affect lawful protest groups and other organisations campaigning on issues around Palestine or the middle east.

The disgraceful attack on Brize Norton in the early hours of the morning on Friday 20 June is the latest in a long history of unacceptable criminal damage committed by Palestine Action. The UK’s defence enterprise is vital to the nation’s national security and this Government will not tolerate those who put that security at risk. Counter Terrorism Policing is leading the criminal investigation into this attack. It is important that this process is free from interference and that the police are allowed to carry out their important work gathering evidence and working to bring the perpetrators to justice.

Since its inception in 2020, Palestine Action has orchestrated a nationwide campaign of direct criminal action against businesses and institutions, including key national infrastructure and defence firms that provide services and supplies to support Ukraine, NATO, Five Eyes allies and the UK defence enterprise. Its activity has increased in frequency and severity since the start of 2024 and its methods have become more aggressive, with its members demonstrating a willingness to use violence. Palestine Action has also broadened its targets from the defence industry to include financial firms, charities, universities and Government buildings. Its activities meet the threshold set out in the statutory tests established under the Terrorism Act 2000. This has been assessed through a robust, evidence-based process, by a wide range of experts from across Government, the police and the security services.

In several attacks, Palestine Action has committed acts of serious damage to property with the aim of progressing its political cause and influencing the Government. These include attacks at Thales in Glasgow in 2022; and last year at Instro Precision in Kent and Elbit Systems UK in Bristol. The seriousness of these attacks includes the extent and nature of damage caused, including to targets affecting UK national security, and the impact on innocent members of the public fleeing for safety and subjected to violence. The extent of damage across these three attacks alone, spreading the length and breadth of the UK, runs into the millions of pounds.

During Palestine Action’s attack against the Thales defence factory in Glasgow in 2022, the group caused over a million pounds-worth of damage, including to parts essential to submarines. The sheriff, in passing custodial sentences for the attackers’ violent crimes, spoke of the panic among staff, who feared for their safety as pyrotechnics and smoke bombs were thrown in the area where they were evacuating. He further recorded the extent of damage to legitimate business activities, which included “matters of nationwide security” and disputed the group’s claims that its actions were non-violent. The attacks at Elbit Systems in Bristol and Instro Precision in Kent remain sub judice. To avoid prejudicing future criminal trials, the Government will not comment on the specifics of these incidents.

Palestine Action has provided practical advice to assist its members with conducting attacks that have resulted in serious damage to property. In late 2023, Palestine Action released “The Underground Manual”. The document encourages the creation of cells; provides practical guidance on how to carry out activity against private companies and Government buildings on behalf of Palestine Action; and provides a link to a website that contains a map of specific targets across the UK. The manual encourages members to undertake operational security measures to protect the covert nature of their activity.

Through its media output, Palestine Action publicises and promotes its attacks involving serious property damage, as well as celebrating the perpetrators.

Palestine Action’s online presence has enabled the organisation to galvanise support, recruit and train members across the UK to take part in criminal activity and raise considerable funds through online donations. The group has a footprint in all 45 policing regions in the UK and has pledged to escalate its campaign.

It is vitally important that those seeking to protest peacefully, including pro-Palestinian groups, those opposing the actions of the Israeli Government, and those demanding changes in the UK’s foreign policy, can continue to do so. The right to peaceful protest is a cornerstone of our democracy. Should Parliament vote to proscribe, that right will be unaffected.

What it will do is to enable law enforcement to effectively disrupt the escalating actions of this serious group. Only last month, Palestine Action claimed responsibility for an attack against a Jewish-owned business in north London, where the glass front of the building was smashed and the building and floor defaced with red-paint, including the slogan “drop Elbit”. Such incidents do not represent legitimate or peaceful protest. Regardless of whether this incident itself amounts to terrorism, such activity is clearly intimidatory and unacceptable. It is one that has been repeated many times by this organisation, at sites the length and breadth of the UK.

I have considered carefully the nature and scale of Palestine Action’s activity. Proscription represents a legitimate response to the threat posed by Palestine Action. The first duty of Government is to keep our country safe, which is the foundation of our plan for change.

Given significant public concern over recent activities by this group, including the incident in Brize Norton last week, and balancing the relevant considerations, I have decided to confirm this decision to proscribe to the House in advance of laying the relevant order.

[HCWS729]

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:43

Boolabus · 16/10/2026 11:39

'fgs stupid woman' not 'oo her sales have soared!' As if they think that's a good thing?
People just highlighting the stupidity of it all. Oh and buying Sally Rooney book is not antisemitic

Who has said it is ??

What we have said is stop defending her financially supporting a terrorist group.

Neverblackcurrant · 16/10/2026 11:43

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:26

I know people in the UK support Palestine Action
That doesn’t make it OK
I know her book sales in Ireland are not going to PA.
It’s disappointing to see that so many people are finding it amusing that she supports a proscribed terrorist group that fractured a woman’s spine with a sledgehammer.
I don’t know what you mean about lumping them in the same category as IRA and Hamas? They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups . Obviously some terrorists are much more extreme and dangerous.

They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups . Obviously some terrorists are much more extreme and dangerous.

I don’t think that distinction is made though.

Proscribing Palestine Action as a terrorist group was controversial.
Amnesty: “The UK’s extremely broad legal definition of terrorism has been the subject of concern by international human rights monitors, including our organisation, for many years. Just last year the UN Human Rights Committee called for the definition given in the Terrorism Act 2000 to be reviewed. This followed a similar comment from the UK’s own Supreme Court in 2013. By being so broad, these powers permit the government to treat as terrorists organisations and individuals who simply do not fit what can reasonably be considered as terrorism.”

The UN: “The UK Government’s decision to proscribe the ‘Palestine Action’ protest group under terrorism legislation raises serious concerns that counter-terrorism laws are being applied to conduct that is not terrorist in nature and risks hindering the legitimate exercise of fundamental freedoms across the UK, UN Human Rights Chief Volker Türk warned.
The UK Government proscribed Palestine Action under the Terrorism Act 2000 after some of its members broke into a military airfield in June and reportedly spray-painted two military aircraft, among other incidents of property damage.
“UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not,” said Türk. “It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”

I don’t condone breaking the law (obviously!!), but there are laws already in place to deal with property damage. The sledgehammer incident was appalling but there are laws to deal with that too.
And obviously it’s nothing to do with me what the UK decides, but many in the UK are uncomfortable with this decision from what I’ve read and it’s being reviewed by the Supreme Court.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87n321w9qlo

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:46

Neverblackcurrant · 16/10/2026 11:43

They are all regarded as extremists and terrorist groups . Obviously some terrorists are much more extreme and dangerous.

I don’t think that distinction is made though.

Proscribing Palestine Action as a terrorist group was controversial.
Amnesty: “The UK’s extremely broad legal definition of terrorism has been the subject of concern by international human rights monitors, including our organisation, for many years. Just last year the UN Human Rights Committee called for the definition given in the Terrorism Act 2000 to be reviewed. This followed a similar comment from the UK’s own Supreme Court in 2013. By being so broad, these powers permit the government to treat as terrorists organisations and individuals who simply do not fit what can reasonably be considered as terrorism.”

The UN: “The UK Government’s decision to proscribe the ‘Palestine Action’ protest group under terrorism legislation raises serious concerns that counter-terrorism laws are being applied to conduct that is not terrorist in nature and risks hindering the legitimate exercise of fundamental freedoms across the UK, UN Human Rights Chief Volker Türk warned.
The UK Government proscribed Palestine Action under the Terrorism Act 2000 after some of its members broke into a military airfield in June and reportedly spray-painted two military aircraft, among other incidents of property damage.
“UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not,” said Türk. “It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”

I don’t condone breaking the law (obviously!!), but there are laws already in place to deal with property damage. The sledgehammer incident was appalling but there are laws to deal with that too.
And obviously it’s nothing to do with me what the UK decides, but many in the UK are uncomfortable with this decision from what I’ve read and it’s being reviewed by the Supreme Court.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87n321w9qlo

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Maybe read Yvette Coopers statement to the commons.
It’s true that some people in the UK support violent protest. I don’t .

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:48

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:43

Statement from the Home Secretary

Share this specific contribution
I have decided to proscribe Palestine Action under section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000. A draft proscription order will be laid in Parliament on Monday 30 June. If passed, it will make it illegal to be a member of, or to invite support for, Palestine Action.

This decision is specific to Palestine Action and does not affect lawful protest groups and other organisations campaigning on issues around Palestine or the middle east.

The disgraceful attack on Brize Norton in the early hours of the morning on Friday 20 June is the latest in a long history of unacceptable criminal damage committed by Palestine Action. The UK’s defence enterprise is vital to the nation’s national security and this Government will not tolerate those who put that security at risk. Counter Terrorism Policing is leading the criminal investigation into this attack. It is important that this process is free from interference and that the police are allowed to carry out their important work gathering evidence and working to bring the perpetrators to justice.

Since its inception in 2020, Palestine Action has orchestrated a nationwide campaign of direct criminal action against businesses and institutions, including key national infrastructure and defence firms that provide services and supplies to support Ukraine, NATO, Five Eyes allies and the UK defence enterprise. Its activity has increased in frequency and severity since the start of 2024 and its methods have become more aggressive, with its members demonstrating a willingness to use violence. Palestine Action has also broadened its targets from the defence industry to include financial firms, charities, universities and Government buildings. Its activities meet the threshold set out in the statutory tests established under the Terrorism Act 2000. This has been assessed through a robust, evidence-based process, by a wide range of experts from across Government, the police and the security services.

In several attacks, Palestine Action has committed acts of serious damage to property with the aim of progressing its political cause and influencing the Government. These include attacks at Thales in Glasgow in 2022; and last year at Instro Precision in Kent and Elbit Systems UK in Bristol. The seriousness of these attacks includes the extent and nature of damage caused, including to targets affecting UK national security, and the impact on innocent members of the public fleeing for safety and subjected to violence. The extent of damage across these three attacks alone, spreading the length and breadth of the UK, runs into the millions of pounds.

During Palestine Action’s attack against the Thales defence factory in Glasgow in 2022, the group caused over a million pounds-worth of damage, including to parts essential to submarines. The sheriff, in passing custodial sentences for the attackers’ violent crimes, spoke of the panic among staff, who feared for their safety as pyrotechnics and smoke bombs were thrown in the area where they were evacuating. He further recorded the extent of damage to legitimate business activities, which included “matters of nationwide security” and disputed the group’s claims that its actions were non-violent. The attacks at Elbit Systems in Bristol and Instro Precision in Kent remain sub judice. To avoid prejudicing future criminal trials, the Government will not comment on the specifics of these incidents.

Palestine Action has provided practical advice to assist its members with conducting attacks that have resulted in serious damage to property. In late 2023, Palestine Action released “The Underground Manual”. The document encourages the creation of cells; provides practical guidance on how to carry out activity against private companies and Government buildings on behalf of Palestine Action; and provides a link to a website that contains a map of specific targets across the UK. The manual encourages members to undertake operational security measures to protect the covert nature of their activity.

Through its media output, Palestine Action publicises and promotes its attacks involving serious property damage, as well as celebrating the perpetrators.

Palestine Action’s online presence has enabled the organisation to galvanise support, recruit and train members across the UK to take part in criminal activity and raise considerable funds through online donations. The group has a footprint in all 45 policing regions in the UK and has pledged to escalate its campaign.

It is vitally important that those seeking to protest peacefully, including pro-Palestinian groups, those opposing the actions of the Israeli Government, and those demanding changes in the UK’s foreign policy, can continue to do so. The right to peaceful protest is a cornerstone of our democracy. Should Parliament vote to proscribe, that right will be unaffected.

What it will do is to enable law enforcement to effectively disrupt the escalating actions of this serious group. Only last month, Palestine Action claimed responsibility for an attack against a Jewish-owned business in north London, where the glass front of the building was smashed and the building and floor defaced with red-paint, including the slogan “drop Elbit”. Such incidents do not represent legitimate or peaceful protest. Regardless of whether this incident itself amounts to terrorism, such activity is clearly intimidatory and unacceptable. It is one that has been repeated many times by this organisation, at sites the length and breadth of the UK.

I have considered carefully the nature and scale of Palestine Action’s activity. Proscription represents a legitimate response to the threat posed by Palestine Action. The first duty of Government is to keep our country safe, which is the foundation of our plan for change.

Given significant public concern over recent activities by this group, including the incident in Brize Norton last week, and balancing the relevant considerations, I have decided to confirm this decision to proscribe to the House in advance of laying the relevant order.

[HCWS729]

Maybe some only class them as proper terrorists if they blow up innocent people?

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2026 11:52

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 11:39

And who would that be?

www.thedp.com/article/2026/02/penn-ronald-lauder-jeffrey-epstein-relationship-wharton

Neverblackcurrant · 16/10/2026 11:52

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 11:46

Maybe read Yvette Coopers statement to the commons.
It’s true that some people in the UK support violent protest. I don’t .

I don’t either, but is violent protest, mostly property damage, the same as terrorism is the question?

I’ve skimmed the statement, will read it properly later, thanks.

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 11:56

Why is Palestine Action even being discussed on a thread about the Irish football team holding a silent protest?

Palestine Action are absolutely nothing to do with the Irish football team, nothing to do with the Irish public, they aren't even a terrorist group here. Why are people so desperate to link this terrorist group to Ireland? It's not our circus, not our monkeys and definitely not our fucking problem.

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 12:01

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 11:56

Why is Palestine Action even being discussed on a thread about the Irish football team holding a silent protest?

Palestine Action are absolutely nothing to do with the Irish football team, nothing to do with the Irish public, they aren't even a terrorist group here. Why are people so desperate to link this terrorist group to Ireland? It's not our circus, not our monkeys and definitely not our fucking problem.

Threads progress and evolve. We've had Mackelore mentioned and the thread wasnt about him either.

Gloriia · 16/10/2026 12:07

And was he going to the Herbert? <It's like pulling teeth>.

If yes then I kinda think Herbert could've just banned him, no? Lest look like antisemitic arseholes by banning a whole event.

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 12:11

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 11:56

Why is Palestine Action even being discussed on a thread about the Irish football team holding a silent protest?

Palestine Action are absolutely nothing to do with the Irish football team, nothing to do with the Irish public, they aren't even a terrorist group here. Why are people so desperate to link this terrorist group to Ireland? It's not our circus, not our monkeys and definitely not our fucking problem.

Not your problem but some people seem to find it quite funny that Rooney is funding a proscribed terror group in Britain.
I wouldn’t find it funny if a British author was funding a group designated as terrorist in the ROI. I don’t think you would either.

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 12:16

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 12:11

Not your problem but some people seem to find it quite funny that Rooney is funding a proscribed terror group in Britain.
I wouldn’t find it funny if a British author was funding a group designated as terrorist in the ROI. I don’t think you would either.

Are people finding what Rooney is doing funny or are they finding the fact that people on this thread are trying to use one person's actions to scold a whole nation funny?

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 12:18

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 12:16

Are people finding what Rooney is doing funny or are they finding the fact that people on this thread are trying to use one person's actions to scold a whole nation funny?

I think the Waterford Whispers thing demonstrates what I mean.

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2026/10/15/poll-which-sally-rooney-book-made-you-join-hamas/

Neverblackcurrant · 16/10/2026 12:30

Waterford Whispers is known for satire and irreverence though.

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 12:32

Neverblackcurrant · 16/10/2026 12:30

Waterford Whispers is known for satire and irreverence though.

Ok.
So maybe most people in Ireland disapprove of Rooney’s support for a terrorist group? That would be great

Gealach · 16/10/2026 12:34

You should do a little poll of your own on your next trip to the home country @OpheliaWasntMad

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 12:50

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 12:32

Ok.
So maybe most people in Ireland disapprove of Rooney’s support for a terrorist group? That would be great

I'd say 'most people in Ireland' haven't even thought about it. Why would they?

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/10/2026 13:04

SingingShrews · 16/10/2026 12:50

I'd say 'most people in Ireland' haven't even thought about it. Why would they?

Because they seem to have quite strong views about Palestine? And Rooney’s is a well known Irish author?

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