Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

'The Royal British Legion sell the poppies though, and they support the British military. By buying poppies I’d be supporting an organisation I have no wish to support.'

They support veterans and their families. Not just English people. They aren't contributing towards the military budget. It's a charity.

These entrenched views are quite sad.

Yes, they support British military veterans and their families, as well as personnel serving currently. I don’t want to contribute to that cause. Not sure what your point is about English people. I’d have no problem contributing to other English or British charities, just not those related to the military.

Anyway, unfortunately poppies aren’t just about remembrance was my point. If they were it would be different.

You're not sure what my point is about English people? I was responding to this
' Wearing poppies is not the same as wearing black armbands. English people wear poppies to remember military personnel who died in war'

A pp suggesting it was just an English thing, seemingly unaware it is about the UK and the Commonwealth.

Okay, I didn’t say that though so that’s a point to bring up with pp, not me.

I responded to that earlier.

'It is not Robbie Keane, not Robby'

Honestly. Does it matter, did you not know who the pp was referring to?

Not sure about the relevance of bomb scares tbh. Distressing yes for families but what is your point?

'Just for the record. Israel has murdered thousands and thousands of Palestinian people including a minmum 20,000 children'

Just for the record, hamas & pals slaughtered hundreds and kidnapped hundreds. They could've released the hostages and ended the whole thing at any time. They could've protected civilians not used them as shields. They could've not set up shop in schools and hospitals. Blame hamas.

We should all be thanking Israel for trying to destroy hamas and all the jihadis whose only intent is to kill Jews and 'infidels'.

Oh hilarious - so now Belfast has nothing to do with Ireland when it suits you! So much for for nationalism.

No not at all just pointing out that it is a different jurisdiction, which is the reality whether we want it to be or not, I don't think people in the republic should be dictating to the North what sporting events they allow.

I know absolutely nothing about cricket, how it is organised, how it is governed, (nor do I want to), so I can't comment on it any further.

My teenagers have an English Dad, visit 4 to 5 times a year with English grandparents aunts uncles cousins, they would never assume to know what it is like to be born, raised or educated there.

I am confused why the hotel are getting away with making no comment based on our anti discrimination laws. I was quite clear on that, stop twisting what I am saying and actually read my comments.

At no point did I assume “to know what it is like to be born, raised or educated “ in Ireland so your comment there is completely meaningless.

Are you teenagers allowed to have a view on political events in England?

You are doing a lot of twisting so that’s pretty ironic .

At no point did I assume “to know what it is like to be born, raised or educated “ in Ireland so your comment there is completely meaningless.
You do all the time whether you mean to or not. I have seen posts from you before claiming you were Irish until you were challenged and admitted you had Irish relatives

Are you teenagers allowed to have a view on political events in England?
Of course but that wasn't the point I was making

Yes it is a new one on me that we must live somewhere to have a view.

Why do some on here have a view on gaza if that's the case.

Yes it is a new one on me that we must live somewhere to have a view.
Nope not what I said at all

Where have I claimed I was Irish?

I said I was London Irish.

You implied it - whether you meant to or not

No I didn't imply it, I was talking about the weight you expect your view to hold because of your Irish connection, which, as I said is something my teenagers wouldn't do.
You also use it as a reason why you constantly bring up negative aspects of Ireland and suggest it's that rather than anti Irish feelings for your constant fixation.

It’s baffling that you visit Ireland north and south every year and you don’t seem to realise that the vast majority of Irish people don’t support terrorism, that mentioning the famine isn’t considered being stuck in the past (it’s only been properly commemorated since the 1990’s), that there are no murals in the republic, how SF increased their support.

You must have tunnel vision while you are here.

1. I have never said the vast majority of Irish support terrorism. In fact I said the exact opposite.
2. The famine is not in living memory in the way that the NI sectarianism and violence is. I therefore consider it less of an influence. My opinion.
3. I didn’t mention murals in the south. I was referring to NI.
4. How SF increased their support, I don’t remember claiming there was one specific reason why they increased their support but it’s well known that they aim for a United Ireland. I totally accept that most people vote for more local issues and SF has been effective in local politics.

Perhaps you should read my posts more carefully. I don’t think I’m the one with tunnel vision

Why do you think I expect my view to hold so much weight? I don’t understand your point. I just think I’m entitled to have a view without being told I’m not Irish and am therefore “ignorant “ and “arrogant “

I don’t have anti Irish feelings. I love Ireland. I live there for several months of the year. My family are Irish . I have an Irish passport. I consider myself London Irish . I love the music, culture, language.

There are some aspects of Ireland I don’t like.

Why do you think I expect my view to hold so much weight?
Just expressing my opinion based on your posts

I don’t have anti Irish feelings
If you say so

The famine is not in living memory in the way that the NI sectarianism and violence is. I therefore consider it less of an influence. My opinion.
You told people to get over it and move on quite mockingly, I checked back but it's been deleted you said very much more than just "I consider it to have less influence".

I’m just as much a “victim” of the famine as you.

I believe it’s better to “move on” in the sense that Ireland is a successful and affluent country now and doesn’t need to see itself as a victim of a colonial oppressor .

I stand by that.
( I loved Maggie OFarrell’s Land by the way. )Obviously I agree with remembering the past. But I don’t agree with over indulging in victimhood. Every nation has had its traumas - many- like the Holocaust/ in living memory.

To be fair @OpheliaWasntMad has said that she does not believe the majority of Irish people support terrorism. The trouble is she has also indicated that she believes terrorist influences to be more relevant to people’s present support of Gaza than other historical events. So there’s a bit of a contradiction there. The reality is the Irish government have supported Palestine for decades, long before the current situation, while they concurrently outlawed the IRA.
Yes, if you’re a republican you’ll probably have even stronger sympathies, but most people in ROI would not describe themselves as such.