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Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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mids2019 · 05/10/2026 05:49

So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

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Gloriia · 15/10/2026 08:47

'we have all agreed there is a problem with antisemitism in Ireland'

Really? Well that's a start, but it we have plenty of 'I'm Irish and actually live here and want to say that I have never experienced any anti semitism from my countrymen' hence the whole debate.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 08:50

Gloriia · 15/10/2026 08:43

'Not shaking hands is because they see the players as representing a state that is committing genocide and has killed over 20,000 children'

3% deaths is not genocide. Any civilian deaths in a conflict are of course tragic. Blame hamas.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.

I'm really surprised that with the tenuous peace process, the rabid sectarianism in ni and the history of conflict some can't see peace is about not being goady and provocative like this team but here we are.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.
Which they did but were under intense pressure not to. They chose to wear the armbands some of the Israeli players chose to spit at people and make racist comments, who was being goady and provocative.

I'm really surprised that with the tenuous peace process, the rabid sectarianism in ni and the history of conflict some can't see peace is about not being goady and provocative like this team but here we are.
You have a funny definition of what is goady and provocative but here we are.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 08:56

Gloriia · 15/10/2026 08:43

'Not shaking hands is because they see the players as representing a state that is committing genocide and has killed over 20,000 children'

3% deaths is not genocide. Any civilian deaths in a conflict are of course tragic. Blame hamas.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.

I'm really surprised that with the tenuous peace process, the rabid sectarianism in ni and the history of conflict some can't see peace is about not being goady and provocative like this team but here we are.

3% deaths is not genocide. Any civilian deaths in a conflict are of course tragic. Blame hamas.

Right oh. You obviously get your information from the Smotrich definition of genocide:
when he says "wipe out Gaza" but "not to commit genocide" and goes on to say "Gaza as a terror entity with 1.8million Nazis who are educated for generation upon generations to hatred of Israel... should not exist" but you are concerned with Irish players being goady and provocative by wearing black armbands to commerorate the victims, yes clearly they are the problem.

SingingShrews · 15/10/2026 08:57

Gloriia · 15/10/2026 08:43

'Not shaking hands is because they see the players as representing a state that is committing genocide and has killed over 20,000 children'

3% deaths is not genocide. Any civilian deaths in a conflict are of course tragic. Blame hamas.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.

I'm really surprised that with the tenuous peace process, the rabid sectarianism in ni and the history of conflict some can't see peace is about not being goady and provocative like this team but here we are.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.

They also spit at people apparently something that you are conveniently ignoring.

OnePeppyFatball · 15/10/2026 09:08

Think I mentioned that on page one. Never got addressed even 30 pages in.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:22

Gloriia · 15/10/2026 08:47

'we have all agreed there is a problem with antisemitism in Ireland'

Really? Well that's a start, but it we have plenty of 'I'm Irish and actually live here and want to say that I have never experienced any anti semitism from my countrymen' hence the whole debate.

I agree - there was quite a bit of denial at the start. This thread has as least got people agreeing that Ireland needs to tackle the antisemitism.

hellomylov3 · 15/10/2026 09:25

I'm going to goad you back Gloria, what about the Brits wearing poppies in NI. That is completely provocative to me as a Republican. Selling them in workplaces just to create a divide. Maybe they should be banned too.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:29

I don’t agree that the Irish football team are the problem here. They tried to manage what was a difficult situation ( they were receiving abuse for agreeing to play against Israel) . The black armbands was a way of acknowledging that people have died and are dying in this terrible conflict. They were trying to appease some of their critics in Ireland by wearing the armbands.

The football team are not to blame.

The problem is the double standard. No one cared about the cricket match against Afghanistan so the cricket team came under no pressure at all.

It’s the double standard that is the problem.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:31

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:22

I agree - there was quite a bit of denial at the start. This thread has as least got people agreeing that Ireland needs to tackle the antisemitism.

Have you any idea how arrogant you sound,....

well done ophelia for scolding us once again where would be without your help with keeping us in line.

Emilesgran · 15/10/2026 09:32

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 08:20

This is really confusing. The cancellation has been condemned and the hotel has yet to make a statement which is really bad.
Thankfully the conference went ahead as planned the event itself (15th meeting of the Special Envoys and Coordinators Combating Antisemitism (SECCA) Forum) wasn't taking place at Herbert park hotel but some of the delegates were staying there.

but the old habit of "whatever you say, say nothing" dies hard in NI.
We are not talking about Norther Ireland

That's odd: this thread is full of comments such as:
"But British soldiers were part of a state military deployed in Northern Ireland, not just innocent lads caught up in something they had no part in. Irish families suffered decades of violence, discrimination and abuses at the hands of that military"
or
"It’s insulting because the wounds in N.I are still raw, people have died in this life time"
And even the Garvaghy Road has been dragged into it:
"The Garvaghy Road march was born out of bigotry, sectarianism, triumphalism and supremacism"

(Not all by the same poster BTW)

So I don't know - apparently you think it's grand for southern posters, many of whom would never have set foot in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, to drag it in regularly, but not for me, who grew up in a nationalist community there right through the troubles, to mention the context there?

Ok got that🙄

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:33

hellomylov3 · 15/10/2026 09:25

I'm going to goad you back Gloria, what about the Brits wearing poppies in NI. That is completely provocative to me as a Republican. Selling them in workplaces just to create a divide. Maybe they should be banned too.

You’re a Republican? There are very few of you around these days I’m told.
I was told the word itself was a bit of a slur.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:34

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:29

I don’t agree that the Irish football team are the problem here. They tried to manage what was a difficult situation ( they were receiving abuse for agreeing to play against Israel) . The black armbands was a way of acknowledging that people have died and are dying in this terrible conflict. They were trying to appease some of their critics in Ireland by wearing the armbands.

The football team are not to blame.

The problem is the double standard. No one cared about the cricket match against Afghanistan so the cricket team came under no pressure at all.

It’s the double standard that is the problem.

Ah here we go again the cricket match that took place in Belfast with very little knowledge about. Clearly the cricket fans didn't care the Irish soccer fans did care about who their team played.
England played Afghanistan earlier in the year.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:37

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:34

Ah here we go again the cricket match that took place in Belfast with very little knowledge about. Clearly the cricket fans didn't care the Irish soccer fans did care about who their team played.
England played Afghanistan earlier in the year.

That’s twisting the narrative
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/aug/04/ireland-five-matches-against-afghanistan-england-ecb-cricket

Ireland risk ECB ire by agreeing to play five matches against Afghanistan

Ireland’s decision to stage a full one-day international series for their men’s team against Afghanistan this summer could cost them lucrative future fixtures against England

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/aug/04/ireland-five-matches-against-afghanistan-england-ecb-cricket

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:39

Emilesgran · 15/10/2026 09:32

That's odd: this thread is full of comments such as:
"But British soldiers were part of a state military deployed in Northern Ireland, not just innocent lads caught up in something they had no part in. Irish families suffered decades of violence, discrimination and abuses at the hands of that military"
or
"It’s insulting because the wounds in N.I are still raw, people have died in this life time"
And even the Garvaghy Road has been dragged into it:
"The Garvaghy Road march was born out of bigotry, sectarianism, triumphalism and supremacism"

(Not all by the same poster BTW)

So I don't know - apparently you think it's grand for southern posters, many of whom would never have set foot in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, to drag it in regularly, but not for me, who grew up in a nationalist community there right through the troubles, to mention the context there?

Ok got that🙄

It’s amazing how people living in ROI think their understanding of the situation in the north trumps all others.
The truth is that there are multiple valid perspectives.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:47

Emilesgran · 15/10/2026 09:32

That's odd: this thread is full of comments such as:
"But British soldiers were part of a state military deployed in Northern Ireland, not just innocent lads caught up in something they had no part in. Irish families suffered decades of violence, discrimination and abuses at the hands of that military"
or
"It’s insulting because the wounds in N.I are still raw, people have died in this life time"
And even the Garvaghy Road has been dragged into it:
"The Garvaghy Road march was born out of bigotry, sectarianism, triumphalism and supremacism"

(Not all by the same poster BTW)

So I don't know - apparently you think it's grand for southern posters, many of whom would never have set foot in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, to drag it in regularly, but not for me, who grew up in a nationalist community there right through the troubles, to mention the context there?

Ok got that🙄

but the old habit of "whatever you say, say nothing" dies hard in NI.
But you were talking about the Herbert hotel in Dublin so I was confused why a common saying from Northern Ireland was relevant?

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:48

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:31

Have you any idea how arrogant you sound,....

well done ophelia for scolding us once again where would be without your help with keeping us in line.

Sounding a bit tetchy Boolabus.
Don't take it all so personally.

Emilesgran · 15/10/2026 09:48

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:34

Ah here we go again the cricket match that took place in Belfast with very little knowledge about. Clearly the cricket fans didn't care the Irish soccer fans did care about who their team played.
England played Afghanistan earlier in the year.

Oh hilarious - so now Belfast has nothing to do with Ireland when it suits you! So much for for nationalism.

FYI, it's Cricket Ireland, not Orange Order Cricket or DUP Cricket that ran these matches. Their CEO Sarah Keane acknowledged some "moral discomfort" about playing Afghanistan. Which was big of her.

The ECB (England Cricket Board) was deeply unhappy with Cricket Ireland's decision to stage the bilateral series - England does play Afghanistan in mandatory ICC events, but otherwise maintains a strict policy, aligned with the UK government's stance, against scheduling unsanctioned bilateral matches.
Amnesty International denounced Cricket Ireland for providing international legitimacy to the Taliban regime by their actions.

In fact there was plenty of opposition from (mostly female) supporters. Just not enough to make CI call the fixtures off. And of course, as usual in Ireland, the irony of Cricket Ireland hosting the series while receiving €70,000 of state funding to promote gender equality passes almost unnoticed.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:53

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 08:20

This is really confusing. The cancellation has been condemned and the hotel has yet to make a statement which is really bad.
Thankfully the conference went ahead as planned the event itself (15th meeting of the Special Envoys and Coordinators Combating Antisemitism (SECCA) Forum) wasn't taking place at Herbert park hotel but some of the delegates were staying there.

but the old habit of "whatever you say, say nothing" dies hard in NI.
We are not talking about Norther Ireland

This sounds like a post aimed to minimise the situation at the Herbert Park Hotel.
Yes - it’s been condemned - move on nothing more to see here.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:53

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:39

It’s amazing how people living in ROI think their understanding of the situation in the north trumps all others.
The truth is that there are multiple valid perspectives.

Everyone including you is speaking from their own perspective. You're choosing to lump us into one homogeneous voice.

trumps all others
They're your words from your perspective no one has said or implied this

hellomylov3 · 15/10/2026 09:54

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:33

You’re a Republican? There are very few of you around these days I’m told.
I was told the word itself was a bit of a slur.

Oh believe me go to the Garvaghy road right now and you'll find a lot of us. Of course there are a lot. In NI you are one or the other. Ffs. The tables have finally turned too. We have a Republican 1st Minister. And there are more Catholics than Protestants . The statelet has failed. Suppose you are living under a rock where you are which explains why you don't know any of this.

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:55

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:53

This sounds like a post aimed to minimise the situation at the Herbert Park Hotel.
Yes - it’s been condemned - move on nothing more to see here.

No it's not so don't try to imply it is. I am confused by it which is what I said because Ireland has quite strong laws around discrimination, particularly in the hospitality industry to counter a history of discriminating against travellers. So I'm confused as to how this could have happened and why they've got away with making zero statement on it.
Not minimising at all just want further analysis on it.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:57

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:53

Everyone including you is speaking from their own perspective. You're choosing to lump us into one homogeneous voice.

trumps all others
They're your words from your perspective no one has said or implied this

You accuse me of arrogance but you are the one who repeatedly, throughout this thread , tells others they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I’ve not lumped Ireland into one homogeneous voice - I know there are many different views.

Gloriia · 15/10/2026 09:57

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:22

I agree - there was quite a bit of denial at the start. This thread has as least got people agreeing that Ireland needs to tackle the antisemitism.

Yes progress has been made I agree.

hellomylov3 · 15/10/2026 09:59

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OpheliaWasntMad · 15/10/2026 09:59

Boolabus · 15/10/2026 09:55

No it's not so don't try to imply it is. I am confused by it which is what I said because Ireland has quite strong laws around discrimination, particularly in the hospitality industry to counter a history of discriminating against travellers. So I'm confused as to how this could have happened and why they've got away with making zero statement on it.
Not minimising at all just want further analysis on it.

Maybe you are confused because your view of Ireland is being challenged.

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