Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

Read the news report. It was a planned and orchestrated attack.

The action of the Herbert Park Hotel is utterly shameful.

It really is a waste of time. Especially when the narrative is being controlled. I gave up a while back.

Sure 😉

This is where your lack of knowledge shines through. The English rugby team got a standing ovation when they travelled here to play Ireland in the 1970’s because they had come despite threats from the IRA.

That’s because most Irish people didn’t support the IRA’s violence.

Maybe Irish people understand that you can support a cause (in our case a united ireland) but not support violence attached to that cause.

The point, yet again, is it would be a different story if they'd taken it upon themselves to indicate support for unionists or republicans by wearing armsbands, no? I kind of think you'd have had something to say about that.

Exactly and in another match the police chief in the midlands had to resign after he grossly exaggerated the risks and banned them after pressure from local anti semites.

Never mind that cricket is a niche sport: but also western governments don’t support them, the people of Afghanistan didn’t vote them in and they don’t have a free press. The people who suffer the most most under the Taliban are its own people.

Staff members wore pink in solidarity with Afghan women during the games.

An expression of peaceful solidarity.

Who is controlling the narrative?

If you break tgs you get deleted. Same for all of us.

The fact is footie players should not indicate 'support' for a side in a conflict. They should kick a ball, that is it.

You'd have something to say if a team played a match against NI in the 'troubles' and wore armbands indicating support for the British army wouldn't you?

I'm presenting a comparable situation.

If anyone played a football match in NI and wore armbands in support or unionists or republicans during the troubles we'd have unsurprisingly seen outrage.

When there are Jews living in Ireland the footie players need to think how their little show looked.

It's not comparable at all.

Why isnt it?

So would you support football teams playing in NI and wearing black armbands to commemorate British soldiers killed in the troubles? If not why not.

I'll answer for you. It would be grossly inappropriate and insensitive. Just as grossly inappropriate and insensitive that the irish team did it.

The black armbands were worn to commemorate all victims lost in the conflict. What is grossly inappropriate about that?

I will tell you what was grossly inappropriate, spitting at staff, making racist comments and calling black players monkeys.

'The black armbands were worn to commemorate all victims lost in the conflict. What is grossly inappropriate about that?'

Oh they were commemorating the hundreds murdered on Oct 7th in Israel too??

But then they wouldn't shake hands with Israeli players so that doesn't quite add up.

This is really confusing. The cancellation has been condemned and the hotel has yet to make a statement which is really bad.
Thankfully the conference went ahead as planned the event itself (15th meeting of the Special Envoys and Coordinators Combating Antisemitism (SECCA) Forum) wasn't taking place at Herbert park hotel but some of the delegates were staying there.

but the old habit of "whatever you say, say nothing" dies hard in NI.
We are not talking about Norther Ireland

Not shaking hands is because they see the players as representing a state that is committing genocide and has killed over 20,000 children.

Israeli players play across all football leagues they've no issue with individual players just the actions of the state they were representing on that day. Spitting at, and making racist commenst at individuals is targeting individual people though.

If only there had been peaceful expressions of solidarity rather than death threats and violence when Ireland and Northern Ireland played during the troubles.
Again you’re just showing your lack of knowledge.

This is just appalling. Ive no idea how some posters can keep on with their 'nothing to see here!' stance.

So you'd support teams wearing armbands to express support of unionists or republicans? You think that's a good thing?

It's bizarre, one team lowers their heads and wears black armbands. That team is antisemitic, grossly inappropriate, insensitive etc.

The Israeli team and fans make racist noises and spit at people, their journalists are so inappropriate they are banned from pressers and that illicits no comment.

If Irelands players were spitting at Israelis it would be front page news, it would be an entire diplomatic incident but Israelis can spit at people without comment? Why is no one digging up articles about Israelis spitting on Christians to show that they have a long history of this kind of bigotry? Why is no one demanding that Israelis take a good hard look at themselves, at their current ethnic cleansing of Christians and question if maybe that is why their behaviour towards Irish players and staff was so disgusting? With this level of evidenced bigotry is it suitable and safe for Israel to play in Europe which is largely Christian?

Republicanism in Ireland is generally seen as a support for violence and, as we all seem to agree, Irish people overwhelmingly don’t support a violent path to a united ireland. Nationalism is common and relates to our experiences of colonialism, the famine and more recent history is common - whereby most people support a peaceful, political path to a united ireland.

Do you think maybe, just maybe that Irish people support a peaceful path to a two state solution?

The Irish didn’t even commemorate the centenary of the Irish famine in the 1940’s - was a basket case economy wise, was a very fragile new state ….so that point makes zero sense.

So you'd support teams wearing armbands to express support of unionists or republicans?
Why do you keep repeating this. The armbands were to commemorate all vicitims. The Irish and Northern Irish soccer teams played against each other many times during the troubles, if they wore armbands to commemorate the vicitms of the troubles there would have been no issue whatsoever. Why have you an issue with people weraing armbands to commeroate dead Palestinians?

Did you know Ireland has one rugby team representing Northern Ireland and Ireland with both protestants and Catholics, nationalists and unionists playing for it, mad stuff eh. Stop trying to convince us that one side hates the other.

Ive no idea how some posters can keep on with their 'nothing to see here!' stance.
No one has done that, we have all agreed there is a problem with antisemitism in Ireland. We have spent most of thread countering your ignorance about Ireland and Northern Ireland tbh

'Not shaking hands is because they see the players as representing a state that is committing genocide and has killed over 20,000 children'

3% deaths is not genocide. Any civilian deaths in a conflict are of course tragic. Blame hamas.

Football teams do not make decisions, they play football.

I'm really surprised that with the tenuous peace process, the rabid sectarianism in ni and the history of conflict some can't see peace is about not being goady and provocative like this team but here we are.