Discussion of the 26 June Gaza protest calling for self-rule

[dairydebris]

This is a thread for us to discuss the planned June 26 protest by Gazan Palestinians- the aim of which is to pressure Hamas to honour the ceasefire agreement and allow Gazans self rule.

Brave people who take part.

Watching and wishing them safety and hoping they can suceed.

I'm interest to hear these voices whether or not you find it tone deaf I'm afraid.
I don't find it to be deaf to want to hear their voices I found it tone deaf to not have highlighted why it is so difficult. Good to hear you did consider it though

I have read the posts and I see your agenda clear as day.

So how exactly are the Palestinian people going to go against the Hamas terrorists.They don’t stand a chance.They will never be able to overthrow them.
I don’t see worldwide marching in the streets against the Terrorist Hamas group to relinquish their iron like grip on the Palestinians.

Oh stop with the vague accusations, what's my agenda? I'd love to know.

"Israel has been killing far more Palestinians than Hamas so I do not trust them in this at all which is why I said they should butt out"

I already agreed with you about that so don't see the need to keep repeating that Israel's endorsement wasn't helpful.

"Protests have already happened last year so there does seem to be some dissent being tolerated".

What are you talking about? You do know that Palestinians were killed last year in Gaza for daring to protest so no, their dissent was not tolerated. I simply do not understand why anyone would minimise the fact that Hamas murder civilians just for protesting, as do the IRGC also murder civilians for protesting.

You should be outraged by this as you say you support everyone's right to protest, but instead you are downplaying it by choosing to focus on some dissent is tolerated.

It has been mentioned several times on this thread why it is so difficult for Palestinians in Gaza to protest. It doesn't have to be said on every post by every person, surely. Of course @dairydebris would have considered it, they are posting in a thoughtful way as they always do.

It is much easier for Palestinians living overseas to organise a protest on Facebook, yes of course.

That doesn't mean it's wrong for them to want to organise protests against Hamas in the hope that the international community will report it and get the message out about how Hamas are behaving towards those in Gaza.

As journalist & activist Abdul Ati said, “A Palestinian remains Palestinian wherever he is, whether in Gaza, the West Bank or the diaspora, and he has the right to speak about his people’s suffering and express his opinion freely.”

I've just read an update with the voices of people in Gaza, understandably they have not revealed their identities:

Unidentified sources in Gaza told Ynet that Hamas gunmen were deployed throughout the area to prevent the demonstrations from spreading to multiple locations.

According to these same sources, armed terrorists were positioned near gathering points, movement of civilians in areas of displacement camps was restricted, and in some cases, phones were reportedly confiscated from participants or individuals identified as linked to the protest calls.

One of the protest organizers reportedly told Kan News that participants were facing severe threats from Hamas. “They accused us of treason,” the source stated.

“They threaten anyone who opposes Hamas. All of us are in danger, but we still believe we deserve to live without a terrorist organization.”

Another reported protester in Gaza told Ynet, “The atmosphere on the ground was one of clear pressure, and any attempt to organize the public was met with an immediate response from security forces.”

Conversely, Hamas supporters apparently claimed that these measures were intended “to protect public order and prevent chaos in times of war.”

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-900645

I am. Point out where I haven't been? I have engaged with the topic and been honest and sincere with my answers. The only posts you have made on this thread have been to attack me

Hamas arrests so-called 'Israeli collaborators'

According to a Kan report, this past week, Hamas announced through affiliated media outlets that its operatives had arrested groups and individuals “collaborating with Israel” throughout the Strip, noting that some of these activists are expected to face execution.

A Gaza social activist indicated that this was not coincidental but rather intended to prevent the protests from occurring. “Hamas is attempting to intimidate opponents on social media. They publish photos of activists suspected of collaborating with Israel and then arrest, torture, and execute them to instill fear in others.”

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-900645

I simply do not understand why anyone would minimise the fact that Hamas murder civilians just for protesting, as do the IRGC also murder civilians for protesting.
I am not minimising anything Hamas do or have ever done

You should be outraged by this as you say you support everyone's right to protest, but instead you are downplaying it by choosing to focus on some dissent is tolerated.
Don't tell me what I should be. I am not downplaying I am unclear what is going on as everyone else seems to be. I have been clear in my very first post on this thread about my view on this

I think it demonstrates the rock and the hard place the majority of innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza are in

I cannot imagine how desperate these people are with no one to turn to they can trust and that can advocate for them.

My opinion has not changed since 2.45pm yesterday

It has been mentioned several times on this thread why it is so difficult for Palestinians in Gaza to protest.
That's not what I was referring to. I was talking about why dairydebris was struggling to hear the Palestinian voices in Gaza and pointing out that it was because over 200 journalists have been murdered many more imprisoned and tortured in Israeli prisons and no international press allowed in.

they are posting in a thoughtful way as they always do in* *your opinion

@Boolabus I am not minimising anything Hamas do or have ever done

Please explain then why you made the comment that "Protests have already happened last year so there does seem to be some dissent being tolerated".

How do you get from Palestinians being murdered by Hamas last year for protesting that there does seem to be some dissent being tolerated?

Thanks Twigs.

Found this- a bit more detail but not familiar with source so treat with caution of course

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2026/06/26/poor-response-to-call-for-mass-protests-in-gaza-over-living-conditions/

I agree wording was bad the bbc article I posted spoke of protests lasting a number of days which is what I meant by tolerated. I had already acknowledged that they were vulnerable to being killed by Israel, Hamas and armed militia.

Yes in my opinion they post in a thoughtful way and like they are more interested in discussing the issues than point scoring.

We are all "struggling to hear the Palestinian voices in Gaza" on this issue because they are too scared to say much or to reveal their identities when they do speak out. Because of the horrible things that Hamas would likely do to them or their families.

Not everything has to come back to a criticism of Israel! This thread is about what Hamas are doing with regard to the 26th June planned protests not about subjects that have already been covered endless times such as the lack of international journalists in Gaza.

It doesn't mean that Hamas "tolerated them" because they lasted a number of days.

Would you say that the IRGC "tolerated" the protests in Iran by their citizens because they lasted a number of days, despite thousands of people getting murdered in that time?

Its weird that you left out 'because if they speak out against Hamas they might be killed for it or perhaps just have their legs broken' out of your list of why its difficult for us to hear voices of the average person living in Gaza... but I've added it here for you.

You don't think I post in a thoughtful way? Oh well. Luckily this thread isn't about me 😉 I can assure you I'm always thoughtful about what I post- I'm sure you are too.

Please do feel free to add anything you've read about the protests and what you think about said protests and not just what you think about me, my tone deafness and my thoughtlessness. Much more interesting.

I haven’t attacked you any more than you have attacked others.

We are all "struggling to hear the Palestinian voices in Gaza"
Not everything has to come back to a criticism of Israel!
The main reason, in my opinion, that we are not hearing or seeing ordinary Palestinians in Gazas because of banned access to international media and murdered domestic journalists so I will stand by that.

This thread is about what Hamas are doing with regard to the 26th June planned protests not about subjects that have already been covered endless times such as the lack of international journalists in Gaza.
I was responding to a post with my view when a poster was wondering why they couldn't hear from ordinary Palestinians so completely relevant to this thread.

Yes in my opinion they post in a thoughtful way and like they are more interested in discussing the issues than point scoring.
They have referred to these threads as a nasty little corner of mn and accused posters, including me, of being racist for speaking out for Palestinians so I don't agree with you. Let's leave it there we are looking at things through a different lens

Video showing hundreds in Gaza seen protesting Hamas for the first time in a year.

Protestors carried signs saying God Willing Hamas Out, We are not Pawns, and We want to Live.

Source: Times of Israel.

Did you miss my admission that wording was bad?

But you appear to have missed this post from me @Boolabus

Apologies to @Martymcfly24 who posted same link before I did 🤐