Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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"However, Israeli citizens, including those
now living in the Judea and Samaria Area / West Bank, will be able to freely
and safely live in the independent Palestinian state, provided they accept the
sovereignty of the State of Palestine and respect its laws. They will be eligible
for residency status and have all the rights conferred by such status, including
the right to vote for local authorities".

They will be able to vote in the country they live in.

Ha ha. On that we agree!

Ok, I missed that. Did I also see Palestinians have the right of return to Israel within '67 borders?

I have no more time today but will spend more time looking at Land for All another time.

The straight answer is yes but it will need to staggered in order not overwhelm the situation.

Look at it another way.

There is a massive humanitarian crisis in the Sudan - most people don't care, they have their lives and might think that there are so many humanitarian crises that what they think bears no difference. There are people starving in many countries. Many people need aid for the very basics in other countries, Gaza receives billions in aid to help it. Why is Gaza raised above all others. Perhaps to many people Gaza is another crisis in another country thousands of miles away. Some people fixate on Gaza and assume it's the most important problem, others don't. I'm not saying that Gaza is not important, since it is, but in a world of many different problems, many immediate to people in their own lives (paying bills, work, day to day living) they don't raise it to the extent that some do.

Gaza gets far more news that other problems. The news changes and usually follows what chaos Trump is currently causing.

Bingo

I remember and I also remember that It didn’t last long, but I guess the optics were good for a while. What are Israel doing now to ensure the health of the Gaza civilians? Can you enlighten us?

I do not 'raise Gaza above all other' humanitarian crises.

The massive difference is our governments total compliance with Israel committing genocide. The compliance is due to the trade deals the UK has with Israel.
The UK has no trade deals with Sudan and therefore it is not endorsing the humanitarian crisis there.

It is the UK governments compliance with Israel, the turning a blind eye, the refusal to call it a genocide despite the many dozens of international professional bodies that have stated that this is a genocide. In addition to their compliance they are actively allowing Israeli real estate events to take place in London - selling stolen Palestinian land!

This is what makes this so different. This is what makes me furious with our spineless government.

Cash over the murder and torture of many many thousands of innocent children.

Yes people know about historic roots but the vast majority don’t care as it’s now the 21st century and we need to move on. Things that were thousands of years ago now are not.

Additionally, the Israeli government have kettled a civilian population. There is no escape from the murder, torture, death, disease, starvation. These people are trapped in a nightmare beyond anyone's wildest dreams. They cannot flee.

It's the sickest thing the human race has ever borne witness to.

Categorically absolutely no where near the sickest thing the human race has ever borne witness to. You appear to have never read any history at all. There are countless examples all throughout human history of the horror that humans have inflicted on each other. Humans are generally a really shitty, aggressive, ideologically easy to capture and exploit, selfish and warlike species. Just a really, really ignorant thing to say.

What a load of racist nonsense.

Agree
Appalling post

It absolutely is the sickest thing the human race has ever done. When Western governments know exactly what is happening, are complicit, financially supportive and are doing nothing to stop the atrocities with their eyes wide open and fully aware that a completely imprisoned population are having their children tortured and murdered.

Tell me when that exact set of circumstances has happened before - with no country stepping in to assist an imprisoned population being slaughtered?

And humans are not 'shitty and aggressive'. Men who get into power are.
Men, with bullshit ego's and a selfish and ignorant thirst for yet ever more land, control and domination.

So it's worth than the Holocaust? Or the Cambodian Genocide? Or the Atlantic slave trade?

So are you trying to say that everything that's happening to them is fine because they deserve it. Is it okay that antisemitism is on the rise as well because of Ben-Givr and Smotrich or that Rabbi who keeps telling Christians that Jesus is boiling in his own faeces, Yosef Mizrachi. Do they represent all Jews. You are a racist.

You can't be serious.

Advocacy like this, completely divorced from reality, overblown, factually untrue- doesn't help Palestinians at all.

When you make comments like this- this is why some of us wonder it its antisemitism behind it all. Because its counter factual. You're literally saying untrue things that don't help anyone. If these things don't help anyone and are very obviously untrue then we wonder what is the motivation behind it all.

What is happening to Palestinians is absolutely bad enough without lying about it. Saying its the sickest thing the human race has ever done. You're damaging your own argument by speaking such hyperbole.

Just off the top of my head, the whole world watched the genocide unfold in Rwanda. The whole world is watching the genocide in Sudan. The whole world was aware of what the Serbians were up to in the former Yugoslavia. The absolute cruelty some of these humans visited upon those who were previously neighbors is something you should perhaps read about to get some much needed perspective. And thats without even mentioning both the Atlantic and Barbary slave trades. Actual life long ownership of other human beings. For centuries.

And yes, humans are uniquely awful.

Personally I think it’s inappropriate Ultra to make such a claim or indeed compare it to other atrocities

As humans we never learn
This sadly isn’t the first and won’t be the last

Isn't the narrative that one side is uniquely bad really problematic?

Whether Israeli or Palestinian, when you start saying either is uniquely bad, the worst ever, any chance of understanding is over and all thats left is racism.

Isn't it the case that humans of all races / nationalities / ethnicities are capable horror and brilliance?

You say humans are uniquely awful. So are you, by your own logic. Do you agree with that?

All humans have the capacity to be
@whoamI00

That doesn't mean on an individual basis all are
This isn’t about one person but the human race

if I understood you correctly @dairydebris

I know I have the potential to be awful, yes. I don't think I am. But I've had a pretty happy life overall and tbh I want for nothing. I'm not scarce of any resources. No one has done anything really terrible to me. I can read and have always been surrounded by many differing viewpoints. I've free time to think. I'm really really lucky and none of that by anything I've done- mostly by virtue of where and when I was born.
How would I have been had I been born a warrior in Ghengis Khan's army? I'd probably have done things that would be unimaginable today. I would probably have helped build a pile of thousands of heads on innocent men, women and children.
No dolphin has ever done that. No gorilla has invented atomic weapons. No dog has ever invented a religion then killed many people in the name of that story.
I could go on forever tbh but hopefully you get my point.

Yes exactly.

Milgrams experiment etc.