Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

[JadeHare]

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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Wishing the land uninhabitable. I can't get my head around that at all. I wouldn't hope for that for either of the two groups 🤯

Have you heard of the Land for All movement which is growing amongst both Israelis and Palestinians. It seems to limited to liberal elites on both sides at the moment. Can I ask what you think of it? I personally think it sounds like an amazing solution.

And what do you propose should happen to the ~15million people living there?

I actually think that is part of a very deliberate strategy by Israel, a very convenient “solution”.

That's a hell of a thing to accuse them of. It is effectively biological warfare. Having said that, they must know they have created conditions for the residents of Gaza which will almost inevitably lead to a devastating epidemic of some kind. It would spread like wildfire when it hits.

https://www.alandforall.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/booklet-english.pdf

Just in case anyone is interested.

Sadly I wouldn’t put it past Israel to do such a thing.

Ceasefire or no ceasefire - it is not relevant when you are talking about access to humanitarian aid, medical supplies and ethnic cleansing all illegal under international law. @JadeHare thank you for attempting to get thread back on track. Reminder from the article:

The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity.

I love lots of it.

Not sure on details of what the difference is between a 2SS and a Confederacy? But yes I believe this vision or something very much like it should be the end goal. It would be great for there to be freedom of movement between both states because of the deep history for both peoples in different parts of the region. I love that it recognizes both sets of links to the land and wants equal rights for both. Are they suggesting Arab Israelis would cease being Israeli and become instead citizens of the Palestinian State with rights to vote there and only there and vv? I like this maybe? I wonder how Arab Israelis would feel about this? I expect some of them quite like being Israeli and should they be forced otherwise? Also an elegant solution for Israeli settlers... although personally I believe they should be pulled back into Israel proper ( like Jewish Gazans were )... so not sure about that bit.. like the sharing of Jerusalem because of the importance of it to both...

Love also that it was founded by women.

The barrier I see, same as always is- leadership of both. And Israelis can choose a different leadership of thats what the majority want. But Palestinians cannot. I recognise the difficulty of living under oppression- but I cannot blame Israel for the utterly shitty leadership Palestinians have suffered under. Palestinians need to be able to choose a leadership that offers a true solution.

What do you think of Realign for Palestine?

Here's a link from the BBC about Israel pausing fighting so the WHO can vaccinate Gazan kids against Polio.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn02z5kjn40o

Doesn't quite fit your narrative does it.

Not heard of Realign for Palestine but I'll have a look. What I like about this solution is it is two states so Israel exists and Palestine exists but the borders are fluid. If an Israeli wants to live in Palestine, they can and will live under Palestinian rule the same thing vice a versa. Basically an Israeli Arab living in Tel Aviv can stay in Tel Aviv and continue to live as an Arab Israeli. Settlers in the West Bank can continue to live there with all the same rights but will be Israeli Palestinians. Obviously there is a lot more work to do and there are many on both sides who will absolutely reject the idea. That is the biggest hurdle.

That was one quick way to make it uninhabitable. Other methods are available.

Displaced elsewhere.

I also meant to add, it is going to need a massive change of leadership on both sides. As long as the far right leaders in the Israeli government are there with their Greater Israel project it won't happen. Same for the Palestinian leadership as you said. They all need to go and be replaced by people who actually have the vision to want a true peace.

Preferably they should be replaced by women. More reasonable & prepared to compromise to achieve peace, less macho bullshit!

Where? We're talking about 8 figures worth of people. Most of them were born in Israel or Palestine, some fled persecution to get there.

Yes I agree. Freedom of movement and with it freedom of access to everywhere would be great for all.
( as long as both sides commited to non violence etc.)
It is interesting that the proposal sees all ethnically Palestinians voting in the Palestinian State and therefore all ethnically Jewish voting in the Jewish State. Love that this gets around the problem of either State being swamped by other nationalities but also isn't it a little bit... apartheid? Not being able to vote in the State in which you reside based on your ethnicity? What about other minorities? Druze? Bedouin? European immigrants? At the moment all ethnicities can vote in Israel- some would lose that vote but gain a Palestinian one?

Think this needs more thought but maybe I missed something.

You would have the whole region ethincally cleansed then? With no care for both peoples historic roots to the land?

But how can Palestinians choose a leadership that would do that for them? What happens to dissenting voices in Gaza? Is there a real alternative to Abbas in the WB?

@dairydebris, Realign for Palestine. I absolutely agree with the principle. Decades of violence has achieved nothing but more suffering. Radical Pragmatism! Love that expression. The problem is the same as A Land for All. It requires such a paradigm shift in attitude by extremists on both sides. There has been so much blood, not water, under the bridge that the hatred, fear and distrust is going to be so deeply embedded in the psyche of both sides, we might be dreaming. Anyway, we should both get back on our sides now. This feels a bit like the Christmas day football match in WW1. En Guarde!!

The majority of the global population don’t buy into the historic roots to the land argument. And I’m not advocating ethnic cleansing. I’m advocating displacement to other areas as the current situation is untenable.

Well I have enjoyed it 🥰

Resume your positions!!

They have to or it can never work. How? I have no idea. The same could be said for the Knesset. You really think Nafthali Bennet would be any more in favour of such a solution if he gets in again.

Everybody serious knows both Jews and Arab Palestinians have roots to the land. There are archeological remains 1000's of years old all over the region. You're not serious. Palestinians deserve better advocacy than this. Displacement to other areas for everyone. 🤮

What other areas?