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Conflict in the Middle East

US - Iran Peace agreement Part 2

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JadeHare · 27/05/2026 17:21

Doesn’t really look like anyone believes that Donald is going to come out of his stupid war with any kind of better deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation

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Islandsofsand · 17/06/2026 18:52

He has unified analysts on the right and left about this.

JadeHare · 17/06/2026 19:10

Watching Alan Ayre on channel 4 news, who was in on the Obama deal. He says that all Donald has done is open the SOH and lost the war.

Well done Donald.

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JadeHare · 17/06/2026 19:14

There has been no positives in this ill thought out waste of time war. Iran now knows it has control over the SOH, and Donald Trump has just kicked the can concerning Iran’s nuclear plans down the road. What a disatser.

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JadeHare · 17/06/2026 19:19

And I also hold bloody Benjamin Netenyahu responsible for this fuck up.

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MissyB1 · 17/06/2026 20:17

JadeHare · 17/06/2026 19:19

And I also hold bloody Benjamin Netenyahu responsible for this fuck up.

He was the main instigator, Israel have been panting for a war with Iran for years. They were waiting for an POTUS who would be stupid enough to help them, what a gift idiot face Donny has been to them.

TopPocketFind · 17/06/2026 20:26

From Sky News

Key takeaways from 14-point deal with Iran - as US official gives briefing to confirm what's in it

A senior US official has been giving a briefing about the contents of the memorandum of understanding with Iran, according to our US partner network, NBC News.

It includes much of what's been reported already on the Strait of Hormuz, and the US blockade of Iran's ports ending immediately when it's signed.
Here are some of the key points:
Fighting ends on all fronts: The deal declares the "immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon".
Strait of Hormuz reopens: Iran will make arrangements for the safe passage of commercial vessels through the waterway with no charge for 60 days. Iran will work with Oman and Gulf states to set up a longer-term agreement for the strait.
No nuclear weapon for Iran: The US and Iran agree that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, and they will work together on removing Iran's enriched nuclear material "under the supervision of the IAEA".
End of US naval blockade: Immediately after signing the agreement, the US will begin the removal of its naval blockade, and will fully end it within 30 days.
Final deal in 60 days: The deal says the US and Iran "commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent".
$300bn development fund: The US and regional partners will develop a fund of at least $300bn (£224bn) "for the reconstruction and economic development" of Iran.
All sanctions lifted: The US "undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran".

Twiglets1 · 18/06/2026 06:38

BBC: Trump signed a hard copy of the initial deal, called a memorandum of understanding, during a state dinner hosted by French President Emmanuel Macron at the Palace of Versailles.

The text says the US and Iran will "commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent".

The agreement says "Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons", which was Trump's number one condition since the start of the war.

The memo also says that Iran's enriched uranium will be "down-blended" – meaning diluted – on site, under the auspices of the IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog.

Originally, the US had demanded that the nuclear material be removed from the country entirely.

As for the Strait of Hormuz, there will be no charges for ships going through the critical waterway for 60 days, according to the agreement.

But the memo leaves open the possibility of future charges. There were none before the conflict.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr8z4z2er9o

Twiglets1 · 18/06/2026 06:57

Also from the BBC:

Point 1: An end to conflict 'on all fronts'
The first paragraph of the agreement notes that the US, Iran and allies will declare an "immediate and permanent" termination of military operations on "all fronts" - including Lebanon.

The agreement notes that "from now on" neither side will initiate military operations or threaten each other, and ensure "the territorial integrity and sovereignty" of Lebanon.

The final agreement will lead to the permanent "termination" of the conflict, the document says. It is unclear how Israel will react to this point.

Point 2: Respect for 'internal affairs'
The text of the document - read verbatim to reporters in a call with US officials - notes that the US and Iran will "respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity" and refrain from interfering in each side's internal affairs.

This will likely be received negatively by Iranian dissident groups.

Point 3: An extendable 60-day timeline
According to the third point in the document, the US and Iran will commit to negotiating and achieving a final deal in a "maximum" of 60 days, although that timeline could be extended with mutual consent.

Point 4: US to end blockade
Once the MoU is signed, the US will begin removing its naval blockade and "any disturbances or impediments" that have been placed on Iranian ports, the fourth point says.

The blockade will end fully within 30 days, according to the agreement and the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. During this time, the number of vessels the US allows through Iranian ports will be in proportion to the traffic being restored by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz.

Point 5: Strait of Hormuz
Part of the agreement notes that upon the signing of the MoU, Iran will "make arrangements using its best efforts" to allow safe passage of commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz - with no charge.

In the longer-term, the document notes that Iran will work with Oman and other Gulf states to set up a "broader" agreement on how to manage the Strait of Hormuz.

The US believes that Iran will assert its rights "aggressively", but that the Gulf states would "never" accept a future in which there is a tolling system in place, the official said.

Point 6: Money for Iran reconstruction
The sixth point of the MoU says the US and regional partners will develop a "definitive, mutually agreed plan" worth at least $300bn (£224bn) for reconstruction and economic development in Iran.

The final mechanism will be agreed within 60 days of the final deal, and all licences, waivers and permissions will be granted by the US.

However, this does not mean the US will be financially involved. One official noted that the US is not required to pay "a cent of money" to Iran, or contribute to the fund.

As a hypothetical example, the official said that if Iran "behaves", Emirati authorities could build a power plant in Iran, with US blessing.

Trump and other officials have gone to great lengths to make clear to the US public that it will not be paying Iran directly, which the administration says stands in stark contrast to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and the Obama administration.

Point 7: Sanctions to end
The US will terminate all economic sanctions against Iran, including those included in UN Security Council resolutions and those implemented unilaterally by the US.

The timeline, however, is unclear.

The document notes that the schedule will be agreed upon as part of the final deal, but that both sides acknowledge their intentions to "immediately" address the issue in subsequent negotiations.

Point 8: No nuclear weapons
Iran has agreed to not procure or buy a nuclear weapon, and both sides have agreed to deal with the enriched uranium Tehran already has.

The method to manage the material is unclear. The document notes that the mechanism "will be mutually agreed upon" in subsequent talks, but that, at a minimum, it will be "downblended" in place under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA.

A senior US official described this as a "minimum standard" and a "major win" for the US.

Trump has said that preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon was "99%" of what he wanted by launching Operation Epic Fury earlier this year.

Because the US has described the deal as performance-based, the sanctions relief specified in point 7 is tied to Iran complying with point 8.

Points 9 & 10: A 'status quo'
The following two parts of the agreement specify that the US and Iran agree to a "status quo" of its nuclear programme in the meantime, until the enriched uranium cna be dealt with.

In practice, this means that the US will not impose new sanctions. In the meantime, it will issue waivers for the exprt of oil, petroleum products and other associated services, such as banking transactions and transportation.

Point 11: Frozen funds
This point has been a significant impediment to negotiations.

Iran had long insisted that its frozen assets be released, offering the country another economic lifeline.

The eleventh point of the document notes that the US "undertakes to make fully available frozen or restricted funds" once the MoU is signed and that procedures will be agreed upon during negotiations.

Points 12-14 : Monitoring and final negotiations
The final few points of the document lay out the logistics of how the deal will unfold.

They say the US and Iran will establish a "mechanism" to monitor the implementation of the MoU and compliance with a future deal, though it is unclear what this will look like in practice.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgmqzr6p9mo

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/06/2026 10:17

Islandsofsand · 17/06/2026 18:52

He has unified analysts on the right and left about this.

He's even unified the Conservative and Leopards Ate My Face reddits!🤯

Im glad this war is over but fuck me what a waste. So many lives.😢

TopPocketFind · 18/06/2026 11:21

He signed the peace mou in Versailles

DrPrunesqualer · 18/06/2026 12:09

Israel are continuing their attacks in Lebanon despite the MOU

‘Israel says troops will ‘continue to remove threats’ in south Lebanon
Israel’s military has released a map showing what it says are the current positions of its forces inside southern Lebanon, extending about 10km (6.2 miles) into Lebanese territory.
Soldiers “are stationed in the designated area of operation in southern Lebanon and will continue to remove threats”, a statement said.
As we’ve reported, the 14-point deal signed by the US and Iran declares “the immediate and permanent cessation of military operations on all fronts, including in
Lebanon “

There’s been a reduction in violence in the sense that we are no longer seeing an intense Israel bombing campaign across southern Lebanon, but there have still been Israeli drone strikes over the past few days causing casualties.

Moshe Saada, a lawmaker from Netanyahu’s ruling Likud party, urged the prime minister to take a harder line with the US over Lebanon.
“Prime Minister Netanyahu needs to tell Trump ‘enough’,” Saada said. “I am bound to defend Israelis, and withdrawing from Lebanon right now poses an existential threat to Israel. Duty demands that we strike Lebanon everywhere, around the clock, with maximum force and with no proportionality.”

This is a very sensitive issue in Israel, particularly now, as we are heading towards elections, and every official wants to show defiance.’

Al Jazeera

DrPrunesqualer · 18/06/2026 12:23

Point 1 of the MOU

  1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon,’

from Toppockets link
of the full MOU as signed

Clearly isn’t being abided by as Israel continue its operations in Lebanon.

RedTagAlan · 18/06/2026 12:32

DrPrunesqualer · 18/06/2026 12:23

Point 1 of the MOU

  1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon,’

from Toppockets link
of the full MOU as signed

Clearly isn’t being abided by as Israel continue its operations in Lebanon.

CNN reported this connected story 10 mins ago. It appears Netanyahu is going to do the same to Trump as he done with Obama. I have no idea if it will be as effective as it was with Obama, but we should see soon what the key arguments against any agreement will be.

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is aiming to influence the final Iran deal, according to an Israeli source, using right-wing media figures and friendly senators to exert pressure on President Donald Trump.
Netanyahu has been skeptical of Iran’s intentions throughout the talks with the US, believing they were never willing to negotiate in good faith. Netanyahu still assesses there will not be a final deal between the US and Iran, the source told CNN, and that Tehran will not genuinely agree to restrictions on its nuclear program.
Now that Trump has signed the memorandum of understanding with Iran and triggered 60 days of negotiations, the Israeli leader is trying to leverage right-wing media figures, such as pro-Israel podcaster Mark Levin, to get his message out. On Wednesday, Levin said the deal “doesn’t make any sense” and called the reconstruction fund for Iran a “slush fund.”
CNN has reached out to the Prime Minister’s Office for comment.
Netanyahu will also try to rely on pro-Israel senators to try to persuade Trump. But even those like Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who pushed for more strikes on Iran, have changed their tune. Graham said yesterday that the deal with Iran “will be beneficial to the United States.”
Netanyahu has also told Trump that Israel does not see itself as bound by the deal, which requires an “immediate and permanent termination” of the war in Lebanon. Israel has already scaled back its operations there under US pressure."

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/06/2026 12:49

The US is a different place than it was under Obama, so Im not sure Netanyahu's plan will work this time.

DrPrunesqualer · 18/06/2026 13:25

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/06/2026 12:49

The US is a different place than it was under Obama, so Im not sure Netanyahu's plan will work this time.

Not least because it’s much harder now to see or justify the Israeli Government as the ‘good guys’ anymore.

That’s not to say Iran have stepped into those boots in the eyes of Americans

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/06/2026 16:31

There has also been a rise and normalisation of antisemitism. Particularly within Trump's MAGA base. The ones who weren't pissed off by the war and rising prices are pissed off with the MOU terms. And they all blame Bibi.

TopPocketFind · 18/06/2026 17:15

In March, Marco Rubio said depleting Iran's missile stocks was a core aim of Trump's war.

Now, JD Vance just confirmed Trump's defense of Iran's right to ballistic missiles, saying, "the Iranians don't give up the right of self-defense in their country."

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/06/2026 17:21

TopPocketFind · 18/06/2026 11:21

He signed the peace mou in Versailles

Noooooooo!
🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😱

Islandsofsand · 18/06/2026 19:30

DrPrunesqualer · 18/06/2026 13:25

Not least because it’s much harder now to see or justify the Israeli Government as the ‘good guys’ anymore.

That’s not to say Iran have stepped into those boots in the eyes of Americans

@TooBigForMyBoots
I am not sure the right approve unanimously with an ongoing war and the Republicans may lose their majority at midterms anyway.

Interesting Netanyahu feels he can continue to pull strings and influence US politics like before- times have changed with AIPAC backing not seem as a positive amongst some, especially Democratic voters.

Islandsofsand · 18/06/2026 19:56

Interesting that Trump and Vance have made comments about extent of deaths resulting from Israeli action:

Vance:

Vance pointed to criticism of the deal from Israeli officials, including far-right ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir.
“You’re a country of nine million people. You can’t just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have,” he said.

Trump:

“You don’t have to knock down an apartment house every time you’re looking for somebody, because there are a lot of people in those apartment houses, and they’re not all Hezbollah,” he said.

Cant believe I agree with them both!!

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/18/jd-vance-tells-israel-you-cant-kill-your-way-out-of-security-problems

JadeHare · 19/06/2026 07:22

From the Independent today:

“The 14-point interim agreement may be the first step on a long road to peace but critics, including Trump’s own Republican allies, believe it favours Iran.
Dr Andreas Krieg, associate professor at the school of security at King’s College London, said that while Trump will present the memorandum as a victory because it reopens Hormuz, pauses the war and creates the appearance of momentum, Iran goes into talks in a “substantively” stronger position than it was before the war.
“It has not surrendered its enrichment programme. It has not accepted disarmament of its missile force,” he said.
“It has not sacrificed the Axis of Resistance. It has secured language on ending the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and it has put sanctions relief, oil waivers, frozen assets and a major economic rehabilitation package into the framework.”
The US, meanwhile, went into the conflict with four objectives: Iran’s nuclear programme, access to ballistic missiles, support for regional proxies like Hezbollah, and human rights. The Strait of Hormuz became a fifth objective during the war when Iran blocked it, notes Fitton-Brown.”

“But this agreement only reopens the Strait and leaves the nuclear issue to be resolved at a later date. Trump has backed down over Iran’s ballistic missiles, saying it would be “unfair” to restrict the country’s ability to defend itself.
There is no evidence of fracturing among Tehran’s regional proxies and Iran’s protesting civilian population has fallen out of international view since Trump vowed “help is on the way” in January.
“Iran’s remaining leadership ... must be feeling quite surprised with the turn in its fortunes,” Dr Newman said. “Just a few months ago Iran was facing economic collapse, domestic protests, then the loss of the Ayatollah and many in the leadership structure.
“Now, the MoU outlines sanctions relief, unfreezing of vast frozen assets and a development fund. This is probably as good as the regime could have hoped for after a bruising conflict.””

Excerpt From
“What next for Iran after Trump signs ‘disastrous’ deal to end war with $300bn boost and scrapped sanctions”
James C. Reynolds
The Independent
https://apple.news/A7Q9UkGgUS0COXh2_j5yeug
This material may be protected by copyright.

‘Worst foreign policy blunder in decades’: Republicans turn on Trump over Iran deal — The Independent

Members of Trump’s own party have lined up to condemn the deal, which pledges to help fund Iran and scrap sanctions

https://apple.news/AHq_DwSMVSNmTgUNQmYVJGA

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JadeHare · 19/06/2026 07:35

Also from the Independent:

“Trump has suffered political damage that, in practical terms, could cost Republicans control of one or both Houses of Congress in November, and even open the door to impeachment. Given his tendency to shift position, it is also conceivable that, under pressure or of his own accord, he could abandon the agreement altogether.
Without doubt, the MOU appears highly vulnerable, with a real risk that the region could slip back into conflict. But there are also reasons it might endure.
On paper, Iran looks like the clear winner. That gives it a strong incentive to preserve what it has gained – above all, sanctions relief and the survival of its nuclear programme. But the one-sided nature of the deal – which largely restores the pre-war status quo for the US – also suggests something else: that Trump was determined, above all, to avoid a return to war once fighting had stopped. The scale of concessions points to that priority overriding all others.
The apparent return to the status quo may also prove misleading. If the MOU’s terms were ever embedded in a lasting agreement, it could be viewed as epoch-defining. A half-century confrontation between the US and a major ”

Excerpt From
“Voices: The 6 reasons Donald Trump’s terrible Iran deal looks set to fall apart – and the one reason it might survive”
Mary Dejevsky
The Independent
https://apple.news/AV-XumHovTmyqLrlTXgtGGg
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Voices: The 6 reasons Donald Trump’s terrible Iran deal looks set to fall apart – and the one reason it might survive — The Independent

A Versailles backdrop may have delivered political theatre, but what looks like a breakthrough in US-Iran relations leaves us with more questions than answers, says Mary Dejevsky

https://apple.news/AV-XumHovTmyqLrlTXgtGGg

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TopPocketFind · 19/06/2026 09:32

Israel bombed Lebanon again and now Iran has suspended the talks due in Switzerland today, and not just that, they are suspending the entire 60 day process.

https://bsky.app/profile/mcbridetd.bsky.social/post/3mommcbw6ek2n

Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd.bsky.social)

BREAKING: Iran Suspends Entire 60-Day Negotiation Process With the U.S.

https://bsky.app/profile/mcbridetd.bsky.social/post/3mommcbw6ek2n

MissyB1 · 19/06/2026 11:35

TopPocketFind · 19/06/2026 09:32

Israel bombed Lebanon again and now Iran has suspended the talks due in Switzerland today, and not just that, they are suspending the entire 60 day process.

https://bsky.app/profile/mcbridetd.bsky.social/post/3mommcbw6ek2n

Sadly no suprise, Netanyahu wants this deal torn to shreds, he will do whatever it takes to make that happen.