US - Iran Peace agreement Part 2

[JadeHare]

Doesn’t really look like anyone believes that Donald is going to come out of his stupid war with any kind of better deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation/

Because there were other countries involved in the 2015 agreement not just the US and Iran? The other countries wanted to keep the agreement going and it would have been better for Iran if they had kept it going and proved they had no interest in developing nuclear weapons rather than just saying it.

Maybe other countries like the EU and UK would trust them a little bit now if they had stuck to the agreement.

Yes and I've already said the US was wrong to withdraw from the agreement.

Iran also made a bad choice though which was to accelerate the enrichment of uranium to 60%. They didn't have to do that did they?

But what was in it for Iran given the sanctions the US imposed, which would have also impacted trade with our countries. Look it up!

It is very naive to think Iran would stick to a non existing agreement.

Art of the deal?

We don't know the full details yet - obviously. We don't know the actual MoU (only what an Iranian senior official says) or what will be agreed during the 60 day negotiation period leading up to the peace deal.

The Iranian hardliners seem to think they have given up too much.

Personally, I'm just glad they seem to be about to agree a deal and at the end of the 60 days (or however long it ends up taking) I'm sure that both sides will have gained some things and also conceded some points.

What was in it for Iran to enrich uranium to 60%? Can anyone answer that?

The development fund for Iran, if included in the final deal, will be a real win for Iran. Basically reparations?

The agreement was still in place minus the US, all the other partners apart from the US tried to keep it going.

Very naïve to think Iran would be allowed to enrich uranium indefinitely and to the limit they decided to put on it.

Because they were isolated financially and geopolitically? Because they could? Because there were no nuclear scientists monitoring them? Because they didn’t trust Israel wouldn’t bomb them? Because Israel has them? Same reasons other countries develop them? I’m sure others can think of other reasons too. Not difficult.

@TopPocketFind
Why would someone agree to a deal when the benefits of that deal no longer applied due to sanctions? It’s not rocket science- no pun intended.

Then why did Trump tear up the agreement and leave it like that?

(We all know it was because of Obama)

Typical of anyone who blindly believes Netanyahu who has been saying Iran is weeks away from a bomb for 33+ years.

All while rich Pro Israeli donors lobby/donate to American and to a lesser extent European politicians about the danget of Iran. Those same politicians also ignore Israel's 150+ nukes obtained by stealing Uranium from NUMEC and never inspected.

Though now after being attacked unilaterally 3 times during negotiations, I would definitely seek nuclear weapons, especially as the other side sees no issue with murdering women and children nor adheres to International law. Trump has clearly shown he is unable or unwilling to reign in Netanyahu, look at the bombing of Beirut today.

John Mearsheimer was right in 2011 when he said a Nuclear armed Iran would bring balance to the region.

The Iranians on the streets right now are not just "hardliners", they don't want to get into the same cycle as Gaza and Lebanon, where despite a ceasefire, the IDF does not cease it's fire. The price of the blood of the children of Minab is not worth a ambiguous deal.

You're so keen to frame Iran as the "winners".

In reality both sides will both win and lose.

The IRGC and their supporters may call the money reparations. The US will call it money Iran will get as long as they agree to dilute their stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

Why are you expecting me to understand Trump?

He isn't often logical but I doubt the reason was purely "Obama".

He also didn't think the 2015 deal helped Israel not to get attacked by Iran's proxies, (that was another bad choice Iran made, to keep funding the proxies) but it remains to be seen whether the eventual peace deal is any better in this regard.

Reparations are a win for them though? They requested this previously and it’s being reframed as a development fund. A war costs US citizens tens of billions and will they now contribute to redevelopment of areas they bombed?

Really want to see how Trump sells this to MAGA crowd.

Reparations don't come with strings attached. It's worth it to the US to pay Iran billions to get them to agree to dilute their stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

Iran wouldn't have agreed to this before the war which is one reason why the hardliners are angry with the Iranian negotiators.

His rants say otherwise.

Didn't you say that you thought Trump had a plan?

@BelleHathor a nuclear armed Iran would not bring "balance to the region" unless by balance you mean Israel being destroyed.

what are you referring to when you say "His rants say otherwise".

It would have saved the U.S. tax payers and everyone else lots of money due to inflation secondary from this war if U.S. and Israel hadn’t bombed Iran but allowed negotiations to continue.

And yes, I believe we could have achieved this position without the war with time.

And yes, I do see this as a win for Iran to get the enemy to pay for the damage they created to get something that Iran would have agreed to with lifting of trade sanctions etc.

His truth social posts.

Check out how often he mentions Obama wrt Iran.

@TopPocketFind I am not sure how Trump is agreeing to this deal as it clearly will be far more generous then Obama’s deal was, when only $1.7 billion was released to Iran which I understand US were legally obliged to release anyway.

He’s going to hate it when it’s compared unfavourably to the prior deal.

This is how Hegseth is defending it

Hegseth: "Unlike Obama, President Trump is smart about these things"

HEGSETH: The document says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, won't seek one, won't buy one, won't have one

BRENNAN: The JCPOA said that too

HEGSETH: But they didn't have the threat of military force the way we do that Iran respects. President Trump led with military might.

(CBS Face the Nation)

@TopPocketFind
Do you think the MAGA crowd will buy that?
They may not realise the cost to them, other than at the petrol stations.

I think the hard core ones will

They are a cult.

But he has lost a fair share of the MAGAs