Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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Good question. Some posters like to be cryptic.

about what ordinary Iranians have said ? especially if they dont like the current govt / regiume then it stands to reason that some ordinary Iranians would want a new govt so in essence trump could be accurate ?

and many posters like to think they know more than our intelligence services / presidents . i wonder where they get there god complex from

He’s pathetic and I can’t stand listening to his stupid ramblings any more. I am disgusted that Americans and congress have allowed this to play out.

For some that is true, many don't want to be bombed back to the stone age @Hummingbird01

Posted on another thread, this article has spoken to some Iranians.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl0ng8z0do

and just like many americans dont want to be at war, then they need better leaders that dont want to have nukes, then there would be no war

Iran doesn't have nukes, the US has

Trump tore up the nuclear agreement Iran and the US had and Trump has now started this war.

Do you think he was right starting this war?

depends on what the cia know, i trust them

You have no opinion on this war?

well ill give you this bit :

Trump did withdraw the U.S. from the JCPOA. he called it a "horrible one-sided deal" and reimposed sanctions. Iran stayed compliant initially but began breaching limits after ~1 year (higher enrichment, more centrifuges) as sanctions bit. By 2025–2026, it had advanced its program significantly though still short of a weapon.

so prove to me that that piece of intelligence is wrong ?

Huh?

What has that got to do with what you think of this war?

Well if iran was breaking agreements and making advanced towards building a functional nuclear weapon then to me what do you think i think about them doing that ?

That maybe it is you with the god complex

iran was already breaking agreements and furthering their development towards a nuke, from an intelligence analyst position that raised the countries profile or would you have preferred the usa let them fully develop the weapon then iran uses it then the world goes omg in horror that it was used ?

What does fixing it mean though? Turning back the hands of time isn't possible so even if Trump withdraws today the situation has been permanently changed (for the worse!) and this will have a lasting impact on all of us in some way, but majorly in Iran where I fear the people will be left with an even more brutal regime. Relationships between all the Middle East countries have been shaken up and a lot of damage done, and that's before you look at the impact of the Strait of Hormuz (which now will be impacted maybe for a long time as Iran won't let certain countries pass). Will Trump then turn to Cuba? Greenland?

He can't even read a hand picked, audience of small children.🤦‍♀️

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-rambles-about-biden-s-autopen-to-bemused-children-at-easter-egg-roll-b2952574.html

This makes no sense at all. If ok, I want to quote something else you said a few posts above, so I can try to figure this out.

"well ill give you this bit :
Trump did withdraw the U.S. from the JCPOA. he called it a "horrible one-sided deal" and reimposed sanctions. Iran stayed compliant initially but began breaching limits after ~1 year (higher enrichment, more centrifuges) as sanctions bit. By 2025–2026, it had advanced its program significantly though still short of a weapon.
so prove to me that that piece of intelligence is wrong ?"

Trump withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018. Iran were in adherence to it. Remember, it was between Iran and the nations who are perm members of the UN security council plus the EU. All the other members insisted Iran was adhering, It is

I have linked the statement of withdrawal below. It is Trumps usual rambling mish mash. Look at the state of it. It is a near incoherent mess of logical fallacies. It is a gish gash of whataboutisms, presented with no evidence at all.

But you appear to be saying that the war is justified because they were doing enrichment in 2026. But Trump tore up the nuke deal in 2018. So if they were doing enrichment, why start a war over it, because the deal for them not to do so was torn up be Trump nearly a decade ago.

Its basically saying.... I will bomb them because they are not sticking to the deal that does not exist because I tore it up near a decade ago.

What deal were they breaching in the last couple of years ? There is no deal for them to breech.

President Donald J. Trump is Ending United States Participation in an Unacceptable Iran Deal – The White House (archives.gov)

I believe is Trump attempting to ensure US superiority worldwide and this war has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear ambitions (but that gave him a good excuse to do what he's doing). I'm not speaking about Israel, here. Trump's only really interested in how much power Russia and China have globally, and he wants to make sure the US has more than either of them. I think his crude attempt to get hold of Greenland shows that motivation (as well as Venezuela). Of course he's making a big deal about 'the world is much safer now' but I don't buy it, personally. I think he'd like to put a pro-US government in Iran so it gives the US a bigger foothold in the area. It's one huge 'game' of Risk.

This is very much what I think.
Trump is interested in ruining financially Europe, particularly the EU, China (who are still doing ok, but will soon enough see a massive reduction on exports as its customers cannot afford purchases anymore) and the other Asian States that are considerable economies (India, Japan, South Korea...)
He does not like the Gulf States wealth either, so he does not care that they lose the source of their income on this.
All these insider trader rumours and strange markets movements do not help their cause.
But I think all this bloodshed and destruction is proyecting Trump madness, US weakness to control it and will change the world in disfavour of the US. Doors will close, phone lines will be silent and money will migrate away from US and US corporations.
Talking about God complex, Trump is treated like a sort of God by some of his base. Those will wake up to an interesting reality....

There are many different strands going on with trump and his threats are trying to push the Iranians the irg of course into submission.

It's called playing hard ball and a negotiation tactics.

Unfortunately it's obviously not working at all on a regime primed to survive without it's head.
The USA have totally underestimated the regime. Although we don't have access to the back channel chats .

I can't see when you have a regime using machine guns and machete on its population and raping and murdering nurses who helped protesters how ...you get them out.

Apparently many figure heads are in the prisons I wonder if the prisons can be opened and them freed whether that may help.

The levels of control are woven into all layers of society and they control flats and houses with intimidation and now they are using children and encouraging children to tell on their parents.

We have no idea if there is an organised opposition.

I also wonder if the Iranians outside the country went back armed with the old Shah just to give a figure head would help.
Again I can't imagine a single free Iranian wanting too but without boots there I can't see a way out.
If I was Iranian I would be keeping my head down a d my family alive. I would be doing whatever the irg told me too .

That was a key point to consider BEFORE starting any conflict against Iran @RoyalImpatience
Did Iran had a big enough and organised enough opposition to take over the country? No- then no attack. Yes- then, they should have considered which action to take.
But neither US or Israel seem to have even thought about anything much but bomb here and thete before entering this and now there is no end on sight.

He can't resolve it, we're all trapped in Hegseth's video game for now. Trump revealed his true self with his question to one of the current astronauts. 'How did did it feel when you were outside communications?' There was an undercurrent of fear there, showing what he is. A terrified toddler, screaming for attention, fearful nobody will come. He's clinging on now, throwing things around and shouting, and will remain there until someone does come. Heaven help America.

Netanyahu warning the Iranians not to travel by train today was extremely sinister. What the hell are they planning to do? The Iranians must be terrified.

I'm assume it's more bridges ?

Civilian infrastructure

There is an internet blackout in Iran, how is the warning reaching people?