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Conflict in the Middle East

Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 09:21

Cannot find a link yet but was on BBC as breaking news.

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Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 07:23

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 06:44

I wouldn't know that but Pakistan says Lebanon IS part of the deal, so all comes down to Trump telling Israel to stop.

Lebanese Govt probably has as much sway over Hezbollah as the UK Govt had over the IRA.

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon, no one else, Israel responds the way it does, even though History shows it makes no longer term difference, they have invaded Lebanon before, 18years and achieved nothing.

The only way for attacks to stop is via negotiation & a peace process, not creating more terrorists by indiscriminate bombing and occupation.

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon...only because of Hezbollah repeatedly attacking them. Hezbollah like to join wars against Israel on the instructions of Iran. In the Gaza war, and then again in the Iran war.

From 8 October 2023, Hezbollah, a non-state group based in Lebanon that the UK has proscribed as a terrorist organisation, launched missile attacks against Israel in support of Hamas in Gaza. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) launched air strikes in response. In September 2024, a strike killed Hezbollah’s leader. Israeli ground forces entered Lebanon on 1 October 2024. A ceasefire was agreed between Israel and Hezbollah on 26 November 2024.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10108/

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon

Yemen’s Houthi rebels say they have launched an attack targeting Israel, coordinated alongside Houthi backer Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The three allies “launched a barrage of cruise missiles and drones targeting several vital and military sites belonging to the Israeli enemy” on Monday, military spokesman Yahya Saree said in a statement (6th April 2026)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:32

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 07:23

Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon...only because of Hezbollah repeatedly attacking them. Hezbollah like to join wars against Israel on the instructions of Iran. In the Gaza war, and then again in the Iran war.

From 8 October 2023, Hezbollah, a non-state group based in Lebanon that the UK has proscribed as a terrorist organisation, launched missile attacks against Israel in support of Hamas in Gaza. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) launched air strikes in response. In September 2024, a strike killed Hezbollah’s leader. Israeli ground forces entered Lebanon on 1 October 2024. A ceasefire was agreed between Israel and Hezbollah on 26 November 2024.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10108/

Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis join Iran in strike on Israel

The Houthis in Yemen say they attacked Israel alongside their backers Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon

Yemen’s Houthi rebels say they have launched an attack targeting Israel, coordinated alongside Houthi backer Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The three allies “launched a barrage of cruise missiles and drones targeting several vital and military sites belonging to the Israeli enemy” on Monday, military spokesman Yahya Saree said in a statement (6th April 2026)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/lebanons-hezbollah-and-yemens-houthis-join-iran-in-strike-on-israel

All the terrorist organisations join in together but many just blame Israel. Should Israel just do nothing when repeatedly attacked hy hezbollah or other terrorist groups.

It seems the terms of the ceasefire aren't clear. Surely all parties need to be part of talks.

Al Jazerra are still calling it a ceasefire but a fragile one.

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Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:33

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 07:52

@Twiglets1 None of that justifies killing 1500 people inc 130 plus children

How would you feel if your family was blown to bits because your near neighbour supported a Terrorist organisation?

What Israel is doing would be like the UK launching an indiscriminate attack on Belfast after the PIRA bombing in Brighton.

Do you think we would have had the GFA if we had done to Belfast or Dublin what the Israelis have done to Lebanon?

Israel's actions are also counter productive, the children who have lost parents/family members are the Hezbollah of the future.

The Japanese and Germans after the second workd war weren't the terrorists of the future. Some people chose peace

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TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:37

How can people choose peace when their country is constantly bombed?

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:41

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

Hezbollah are no friend to the people of The Lebanon and yet seem uncontrollable by the government of The Lebanon. If they could actually get they to stop doing the bidding of Iran, things would improve massively.

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Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:47

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:37

How can people choose peace when their country is constantly bombed?

I was replying to someone who did the usual 'terrorists of the future speech"..... replying that not all people end up being terrorists of the future when a war ends, eg Japan and Germany, they chose peace and look at them now amazing countries of prosperity. Why do people expect less of the people of The Lebanon than what occurred with the people of Japan (many hundreds of thousands were killed) and Germany (huge numbers during 2 World wars).... they wanted better for their grandchildren and achieved it. Its not impossible for Lebanon to achieve similar if the will is there to get rid of Hezbollah.

Their government might do more to stop Hezbollah from within their own country though.

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TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 14:50

@Ihatetomatoes

Why are you suddenly using The Lebanon?

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:50

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:27

That has nothing to do with the point I made which was that it's not just a case
that Israel brings mayhem to Lebanon as you said.

That cuts both ways and Hezbollah often sticks the boot into Israel when they are vulnerable (such as the day after they were attacked by Hamas).

They are a proscribed terrorist organisation and while Lebanon is not Hezbollah, it is also true to say that Lebanon has not been able to destroy Hezbollah from within, despite they are no friend to the current government or the people of Lebanon.

mmmm a few rockets which land in the desert or are shot down vs 1500 people killed inc 130 children, latest Israeli attacks killed the elderly who were too frail to flee.
So many more than killed in the October 7th attack, yet the world stays silent, the UK issues a "We are deeply troubled..." comment wooo weeee!

Its cold blooded murder, totally unjustified and will wreck the ceasefire, destroying the worlds economy.

Pakistan brokered the ceasefire, they say Lebanon was included in the deal.

Notonthestairs · 09/04/2026 14:52

I suppose the point of the ceasefire was to have those conversations with Iran regarding their ability/willingness to influence Hezbollah.

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:55

Ihatetomatoes · 09/04/2026 14:47

I was replying to someone who did the usual 'terrorists of the future speech"..... replying that not all people end up being terrorists of the future when a war ends, eg Japan and Germany, they chose peace and look at them now amazing countries of prosperity. Why do people expect less of the people of The Lebanon than what occurred with the people of Japan (many hundreds of thousands were killed) and Germany (huge numbers during 2 World wars).... they wanted better for their grandchildren and achieved it. Its not impossible for Lebanon to achieve similar if the will is there to get rid of Hezbollah.

Their government might do more to stop Hezbollah from within their own country though.

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Do you know anything about the history of the region? from the massacres in the 1940s, to the rise of the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah etc etc

The "Terrorists of the future..." is exactly what has been happening for generations.... what do you propose to do to stop this? kill every Palestinian?

Japan and Germany kept their nation statehood, the Marshall plans rebuilt their economies, there is zero comparison.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 14:55

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:50

mmmm a few rockets which land in the desert or are shot down vs 1500 people killed inc 130 children, latest Israeli attacks killed the elderly who were too frail to flee.
So many more than killed in the October 7th attack, yet the world stays silent, the UK issues a "We are deeply troubled..." comment wooo weeee!

Its cold blooded murder, totally unjustified and will wreck the ceasefire, destroying the worlds economy.

Pakistan brokered the ceasefire, they say Lebanon was included in the deal.

Pakistan aren't neutral as you well know.

You choose to believe Iran and Pakistan. I choose to believe the US and Israel.

That's it, really. People choose who to believe and it's all irrelevant really who we on MN believe because no one can tell another country what to do.

I hope that Israel will agree to a ceasefire with Lebanon but that is up to them. I'm sure they could be persuaded to do so for a permanent ceasefire but not so sure they will agree right now.

Notonthestairs · 09/04/2026 14:58

Pakistan have a mutual defence pact with Saudi. They are very keen to deescalate the war and not to be drawn in to it.

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:59

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 14:55

Pakistan aren't neutral as you well know.

You choose to believe Iran and Pakistan. I choose to believe the US and Israel.

That's it, really. People choose who to believe and it's all irrelevant really who we on MN believe because no one can tell another country what to do.

I hope that Israel will agree to a ceasefire with Lebanon but that is up to them. I'm sure they could be persuaded to do so for a permanent ceasefire but not so sure they will agree right now.

Lol but Israel and the USA are.... touching!

Without Pakistan, there would be no ceasefire and 10s of 1000s of Iranians would now be dust... as Israel and the USA drop whatever they can muster onto the people of Iran.

So yes i would take the word of the Pakistani's as they brokered the peace.

Where did i say i believe Iranian regime...?? i did not, so please don't distort what i ve written.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 15:11

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 14:59

Lol but Israel and the USA are.... touching!

Without Pakistan, there would be no ceasefire and 10s of 1000s of Iranians would now be dust... as Israel and the USA drop whatever they can muster onto the people of Iran.

So yes i would take the word of the Pakistani's as they brokered the peace.

Where did i say i believe Iranian regime...?? i did not, so please don't distort what i ve written.

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Pakistan did well to broker the deal but they cannot claim to be neutral.

They don't even recognise Israel as a sovereign state.

You are choosing to believe what Iran and Pakistan said so in this instance, yes you are believing the regime.

To say 10s of 1000s of Iranians would be dust suggests you believed Trump's hyperbole. Do you normally believe everything Trump says? It was known that what the US was threatening to target was infrastructure like bridges and power stations so there was no need for thousands of people to be killed at all apart from the last minute stunt played by the IRGC.

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 15:19

The US president speaks genocide, not hyperbole

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 15:23

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 15:11

Pakistan did well to broker the deal but they cannot claim to be neutral.

They don't even recognise Israel as a sovereign state.

You are choosing to believe what Iran and Pakistan said so in this instance, yes you are believing the regime.

To say 10s of 1000s of Iranians would be dust suggests you believed Trump's hyperbole. Do you normally believe everything Trump says? It was known that what the US was threatening to target was infrastructure like bridges and power stations so there was no need for thousands of people to be killed at all apart from the last minute stunt played by the IRGC.

Please stop lying about what i said OR quote where i said i believed the regime?

You re just making up stuff to support your weak argument and your belief that neither Israel or the USA can do any wrong.

What do you think "i will end their civilisation" means in practice?

As the ceasefire is between Iran and the USA, with no involvement of Israel, Pakistan's view on the statehood of Israel is irrelevant.

What matters is their opinion on the ceasefire.

FloralDeerPattern · 09/04/2026 16:13

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 15:23

Please stop lying about what i said OR quote where i said i believed the regime?

You re just making up stuff to support your weak argument and your belief that neither Israel or the USA can do any wrong.

What do you think "i will end their civilisation" means in practice?

As the ceasefire is between Iran and the USA, with no involvement of Israel, Pakistan's view on the statehood of Israel is irrelevant.

What matters is their opinion on the ceasefire.

Its a funny one, America and Israel spout genocidal rhetoric and they don't mean it, it's hyperbole, it's just a few crazy cranks, why are you taking it seriously. Others spout genocidal rhetoric and that means it's justified to bomb their countries to shit. Even though Israel and the US have actually killed, maimed, displaced,starved far more people and caused far more destruction and devastation in the countries they have spouted genocidal rhetoric towards than Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran have.

Boolabus · 09/04/2026 16:31

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 15:23

Please stop lying about what i said OR quote where i said i believed the regime?

You re just making up stuff to support your weak argument and your belief that neither Israel or the USA can do any wrong.

What do you think "i will end their civilisation" means in practice?

As the ceasefire is between Iran and the USA, with no involvement of Israel, Pakistan's view on the statehood of Israel is irrelevant.

What matters is their opinion on the ceasefire.

And the US trusts Pakistan as does Iran so they are in a very good position to broker a ceasefire as many analysts have commented on. Not sure why someone thinks they suddenly shouldn't be trusted in this process.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/09/asia/pakistan-islamabad-talks-us-iran-ceasefire-intl-hnk

How Pakistan became an unlikely bridge between the United States and Iran | CNN

The streets of Islamabad have been emptied by a sudden two-day public holiday, declared to enforce a strict security lockdown in the Pakistani capital.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/09/asia/pakistan-islamabad-talks-us-iran-ceasefire-intl-hnk

Boolabus · 09/04/2026 16:50

Another article on it. I would agree with Robert Malley on this. America took their time suggesting Lebanon was not included.

Robert Malley, a former American envoy who led earlier US-Iranian negotiations, said: “I would trust the Pakistani mediator that Lebanon was included. They put out a statement that it was included and we did not hear any American correct the Pakistani version for many hours.
“It looks like a case of the US reneging and giving the Israeli prime minister [permission] to go ahead [with bombing] for another 24 hours before they are ‘restrained’”.

And even if Lebanon wasn't included in the ceasefire this is wrong regardless:
More than 200 people were killed by Israeli bombing, including strikes with heavy munitions on densely populated areas, which drew outrage from the International Committee of the Red Cross and other international humanitarian organisations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/09/israel-bombing-lebanon-us-iran-ceasefire-condemnation?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwdGRjcAREqdFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR55qdfVPg8gOc1GSqpXZ3XBpwP0DP55Eh2mFQhpDPYvrFELqfnWLCzToinDcw_aem_8BjpNqNHdhzx2JoqR1O-Uw

Israel’s bombing of Lebanon after US-Iran ceasefire prompts condemnation

Strikes that killed more than 200 people spark outrage amid global efforts to salvage truce

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/09/israel-bombing-lebanon-us-iran-ceasefire-condemnation?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwdGRjcAREqdFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR55qdfVPg8gOc1GSqpXZ3XBpwP0DP55Eh2mFQhpDPYvrFELqfnWLCzToinDcw_aem_8BjpNqNHdhzx2JoqR1O-Uw

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 17:04

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 15:23

Please stop lying about what i said OR quote where i said i believed the regime?

You re just making up stuff to support your weak argument and your belief that neither Israel or the USA can do any wrong.

What do you think "i will end their civilisation" means in practice?

As the ceasefire is between Iran and the USA, with no involvement of Israel, Pakistan's view on the statehood of Israel is irrelevant.

What matters is their opinion on the ceasefire.

If you believe Iran when they say the US agreed that Lebanon was included in the deal, then you are believing the regime.

"As the ceasefire is between Iran and the USA, with no involvement of Israel, Pakistan's view on the statehood of Israel is irrelevant."

If the ceasefire had no involvement with Israel, why are they now being blamed for not agreeing to a part of it (the Lebanon part)? They must be telling the truth that they did not agree to it if they had no involvement in the deal.

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 17:07

The US initially said that Lebanon was included

Notonthestairs · 09/04/2026 17:19

Boolabus · 09/04/2026 16:50

Another article on it. I would agree with Robert Malley on this. America took their time suggesting Lebanon was not included.

Robert Malley, a former American envoy who led earlier US-Iranian negotiations, said: “I would trust the Pakistani mediator that Lebanon was included. They put out a statement that it was included and we did not hear any American correct the Pakistani version for many hours.
“It looks like a case of the US reneging and giving the Israeli prime minister [permission] to go ahead [with bombing] for another 24 hours before they are ‘restrained’”.

And even if Lebanon wasn't included in the ceasefire this is wrong regardless:
More than 200 people were killed by Israeli bombing, including strikes with heavy munitions on densely populated areas, which drew outrage from the International Committee of the Red Cross and other international humanitarian organisations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/09/israel-bombing-lebanon-us-iran-ceasefire-condemnation?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwdGRjcAREqdFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR55qdfVPg8gOc1GSqpXZ3XBpwP0DP55Eh2mFQhpDPYvrFELqfnWLCzToinDcw_aem_8BjpNqNHdhzx2JoqR1O-Uw

That’s interesting from Malley.

The US certainly didn’t move to correct the Pakistan announcement.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 17:21

TopPocketFind · 09/04/2026 17:07

The US initially said that Lebanon was included

Do you have a link to where the US said that?