Let's face it Iran is indiscriminatly hitting Israeli civilians targets including schools using cluster bombs.....

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Iran is firing missiles into heavily populated Israeli towns and have abandoned the pretence of targeting anything military.....this is just pure terrorism and does make you think what would happen if Iran did manage to develop a nuclear weapon.

Just hoping more of the missile launch sites can be taken out and this terrorist regime falls.

You can guarantee if the UK government were enlisting young people to take part in illegal wars and defend their citizens as they burn people's homes to the ground people wouldn't be crowing about how great they are and how much they care.

Yes, I'd stop people marching through cities singing from the river to the sea and globalise the intifada and waving flags from another nation that has a terrorist organisation running things and making people in this nation feel threatened! Stop intimidating and threatening people here.

I'd support static protest where people protest but don't roam and intimidate. I had a scroat shout in my face 'free Palestine' as they marched passed bashing their drum, he forgot the 'from Hamas' bit though, they always do. Any protest, static, not annoying unconnected people and not intimidating people going about their business.

I'd also be very happy to see the banning of phrases such as "Globalise the Intifada". Anything which intimidates a minority group is completely unacceptable, and the Government should step up to protect Jewish people in the UK, and punish those who attack or discriminate against them. But I would also like to see sanctions against Israel for settler violence and war crimes, and the UK to stop supplying arms to Israel. The UK support for the current Israeli Government and failure to make any attempts to curb their excesses must be horrific for the 60,000 Palestinians living in the UK (and now to add the pitiful international response to what Israel is doing in Lebanon). Watching Israel act with impunity, and supported by a country that you pay taxes to, must be intolerable.

Israel does not have bomb shelters everywhere. Christian/Muslim majority towns and settlements have long been denied shelters - there isn’t a single public shelter in Nazareth for example. And Christian and Muslim Israelis are frequently denied access to shelters in places where they do exist.

Bloody hell that is shocking!! 😡

In fairness, places like Nazareth are generally not targetted by Hamas, Hezbollah etc. attacks, for obvious reasons. And from what I can tell, instances of people being excluded from shelters are isolated.

However I have no problem with the proposition that Trump, in particular, gives no fucks about the lives of ordinary citizens- American or otherwise. It seems glaring that he's started this war with an eye on himself and privileged others shorting the market; and/or distracting from his domestic woes (eg. Epstein). That's, frankly, Hamas-level subhuman behaviour. He's no better.

I don't think it's particularly challenging either to say that Netanyahu cares more about Israeli Jewish lives than Israeli muslims.

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/64816/israels-use-of-cluster-munitions

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/

https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj.s239

https://www.aljazeera.com/podcasts/2026/3/18/the-take-who-will-answer-for-the-iranian-schoolchildren-killed-in-minab-2

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/israeli-forces-using-gaza-playbook-lebanon-decimating-water-infrastructure

Agree with most of that - thank you for the fair points made in your first paragraph.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/iranian-foreign-minister-condemns-us-attack-freshwater-desalination

the list goes on

What you are saying here is the opposite of what I am reading on other sites, which is that it is the other way round, it is Israel and the US going all out and using forbidden weapons. Whatever is the truth here I don't know and you don't know but for absolute certain none of this would be happening if Israel and the US had not decided to start bombing Iran and Lebanon.

So the takeaway for you is to request israel and the US to stop. And then Iran will stop.

And expedite a 2 state agreement which is fair and equal and agreement from all sides that they will respect borders. All of them.

It's as if some think accusations of war crimes only apply to democracies not terror states

And others think that they have the moral high ground to determine which are democracies and which are terror states, and some democracies can act as terror states but call it protection, and some terror groups are forgiven when they join the "right" side. I think the point you are trying to make has lost its meaning as the terms have been misused or exploited so many times. Which is a shame.

Only peace will work now.

Quite ironic, that the phrase "from the river to the sea" was originally from Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party in 1977, describing exactly what Israeli sovereignty would be. it is almost as if, Likud and other right wing elements in Israel, wanted to wipe out all Palestinians.

www.thenation.com/article/world/its-time-to-confront-israels-version-of-from-the-river-to-the-sea/

I think people have to realise there are British assets in the region actively working to shoot down missiles from one side of this conflict. Spoiler-they aren't defending against the US and Israel which are our allies. Iran is the enemy.

No one likes war but this country has set allows in this world for good reason and they are aligned against terror states and those that would spread terror. We are happy to allow the US to use our bases for their missions and I don't see many people conlaining......this is mutual defence.

if Iran had the ability of would of course strike the UK and so I look at this conflict as one that ultimately will serve the global interest by hopefully getting rid of the mad dogs who rule in Iran and fund Hezbollah and Hamas.

"Mad dogs" ? Really ?

I think that would rule you out for jury duty in many court cases.

Calling those leaders who would massacre their own citizens and dogs I think is appropriate. 80% of the Iranian people want rid of the regime and have probably called their leaders worse. Let's hope the regime falls.

The US has insulted our armed forces and those of NATO, it has threatened & implemented tariffs, it has threatened Greenland/Denmark and it has insulted our allies. And thats before we get to the ritual humiliation they put Ukraine through or the oil/gold heist of Venezuela or their behaviour towards Cuba.

That is not the behaviour of an ally. This is not the behaviour of a reliable friend.

That doesnt mean I support Iran. It means the UK can not trust the US.

And the regime is still in place. The world isnt safer.
It's just got an oil & fertiliser crisis on top of everything else.

The world isn't safer at the moment @Notonthestairs but we are in the middle of a war.

We will see at the end of the war which of the war goals of the US/Israel have been achieved and to what extent.

If Iran's military have been greatly diminished and in particular if they have reigned in their nuclear ambitions and capabilities, that will make the world safer for those they wish to kill. And could make the whole Middle East safer without them constantly causing conflict via their proxies in other countries.

You don't know the amount of support the Iranian Govt has or not.... i don't think YouGov has been in there.

Nor does anyone know accurately the numbers killed by the Iranian Govt, they are estimates, which seem to rise almost daily.... to justify the US/Israeli actions.

On "Mad dogs" the US has a demented POTUS and Secretary of "War" with a tattoo of a Jerusalem Cross (from the Crusades) and a far right racist tattoo as well.
With the Israelis turning Lebanon into another Gaza, 1000s of innocents killed...

imho its Israel and the US that are the real mad dogs, with a disregard of life equal to that of the Iranians.

All this war will do is embed the current regime, will wreck western economies (hitting the poorest the hardest) & cause huge hardship in the developing world

You seem to have a very active imagination and an excessive amount of faith in the US in terms of both their intent to 'do good', whatever that even means and their ability to eradicate the current Iranian regime and thei potential weapons capability. At present, the Iranians are in control of the Strait and the US leadership is panicking and being mocked around the world.

Your last paragraph seems a much more likely outcome to me. Trust me, I am not rejoicing at this. I have been very vocally against this conflict and others from the beginning.

Re the number of Iranians killed @Alexandra2001 even the Iranian government puts the figure at over 3,000 people killed in a few days.

Estimates vary but even 3.000 plus people killed by their own government would be completely shocking don't you think? And most estimates are much higher, including the one from the Iranian Ministry of Health:

As many as 30,000 people could have been killed in the streets of Iran on Jan. 8 and 9 alone, two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health told TIME—indicating a dramatic surge in the death toll. So many people were slaughtered by Iranian security services on that Thursday and Friday, it overwhelmed the state’s capacity to dispose of the dead. Stocks of body bags were exhausted, the officials said, and eighteen-wheel semi-trailers replaced ambulances.

time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/

There wont be an end to the war without regime change. There will simply be a rearrangement.

That will be the cessation of bombing under whatever pretext. We can see that Israel is annexing parts of Lebanon - anyone want to predict the long term fall out from that?

The Iranian regime will bunker down, enact more violence on its population and wait. The rest of the world knows that the Straits are forever at their mercy. Work arounds to the Strait will take decades to put in place.

There will certainly be a knock on impact to the fuel and fertiliser shortages - I imagine that will encourage political instability rather than reduce it.

Our enemies (Russia & Belarus) have had their hand strengethened - lowering of sanctions and military/money depleted.

The only way you can possibly view this as an end - or as a victory - is if you take a very short view of history.

Work arounds to the Strait may well take decades to put in place but we have decades don't we? Reducing dependence on the Straight will be one (long term) outcome from the war I expect.

I disagree that there wont be an end to the war without regime change.

There will be an end to the war, with or without regime change. The signs coming from both the US & Iran suggest that they are both looking to exit the war and trying to get the best deal they can out of the ceasefire agreement.

Well, we will have to agree to disagree.

IMV in Iran it's an pause, not an end. They will simply wait.
Outside of Iran we are looking at an increase political instability (because of fuel and fertiliser shortages) and a strengthened Russia.

Iran can make the RoW pay a huge cost, they will not seek a quick ceasefire.

Iran will be the victors here, longer term Russia and China too, Trump has shown the impotence of the West.

Already there is talk of fuel shortages, esp in Aviation.

Imho we've seen nothing yet.