Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

How is Starmer slaughtering Christians?

Time consuming it may be but also a figment of your imagination.

The pp wasn’t very clear tbf

I was just reading that article - law of unintended consequences. It doesn’t bode well.

Is he the guy that had his interpreter blown up in the car in front of him by an IDF tank on live TV? They were specifically told not to drive in sight of the border patrols, it was a few years ago. What was he saying this time?

1. It is not in Iran"s interest, well not in the interests of their ruling elite, their interest now is wrecking the global economy, the recent attacks have given them the green light to do this and by "taking out" established leaders it seems that more extreme versions have taken their place? The only downside for them is that when you are on the IDF shit-list things tend to end in a large cloud of dust.

It was pretty obvious they are referring to the current Syrian leader. So no need for your belittling reply

He is talking now, saying that "taking control of Iran"s oil" is "an option", it feels like they don"t really know what they are doing and are just trying to keep the presentation tight and say they are winning, this could escalate very badly IMO.

Their press conferences are getting more and more like the restaurant scene in Goodfellas, this is not filling me with confidence, there are elements in the ME just giddy with delight at the moment that we are being drawn in (again) he doesn"t seem to get this?

He’s bonkers

A lot of the narrative seems rambling and inconsistent, Iran have prepared for this for decades, they will be watching markets and just revelling in the power they have at the moment.

You have a point, it may not be what the new rulers of Iran consider on their interest. But yes on the Iranian people and nation interest. Which are not neccesary the same, sadly.
I hope is posing, but the mediators are getting to break through to them.

Trump surely talks a lot!
Iran has given him a present.. the Guardian reports that letting some tankers through Hormuz today is the present or at least, part of it, or that Iran has coceded this as a present.
Mind you, some flags are passing through safely and, reportedly, for free. So a partial solution would be to ship as much as possible under those flags, after some diplomacy talks.
News are reporting this widely diffetently. From following each of Trumps little jewels, to full on plain refusal of the deal by Iran.
They surely like to keep us guessing!
Fingers crossed!

My feeling is that there will be a big escalation soon with the aim of saying "mission accomplished" then Iran is going to go all out on water/energy infrastructure across the Gulf drawing the region into conflict, the press conferences telegraph loud and clear that this is 70% bluster and 30% planning, I think they thought the regime would fall after the first strikes, the more they bomb and Iran continues to retaliate the more they encourage people to rally against the West.

Trump claims that Iran allowed 10 oil tankers to pass through the Strait of Hormuz as a “present” to show it was serious about negotiations to end the war.

I really hope not. But it is a possibility, sadly.
It realky brings to the front the question of why and how we choose these people to represent whole countries, when they are this stupid.

10 tankers is better than none. We still need many many more.
To be honest, I am not sure even the guys themselves know what they are doing or saying at this point.

Glad to hear Abbas Aragchi (Iran foreign minister) is not in the "to be killed" list anymore, because who are they going to talk to if they have no one willing to travel abroad to meet them or to risk to give their location by phone call or similar? They do need to keep some diplomats and contacts available and to turn up at Islamabad or any other chosen tocation. I think.

For context, it looks like we are ten folds down. Google tells me that 100 or more ships used to pass through Hormuz daily.

I think the fact they have taken Abbas Aragchi off the kill list is a strong hint about who is doing the negotiations from the Iran side.

(the negotiations that aren't happening from Iran's side of course😉)

I do not know twiglets. I am not infering any cracks between the bodies of the Islamic Republic here. It could be that PM and ministers are taking a more reasonable and peaceful approach than the IRGC and rest of the army or it could be that they are all in good agreement. No idea.
But if there are to be serious negotiations at any point, Aragchi will be there, right?

I am positive they are talking, because Pakistan has confirmed to be mediating ( I think there is another country helping, maybe Turkye?)
That is the only reason why I buy it.

( that is how untrustworthy Trump has become!)

Yes I buy it also because of what Pakistan and Turkey have said re mediating.

Aragchi seems to be a main negotiator as far as I can tell.

The election battle cry was - We are going to bring factories back to your FlyOver/Rust Belt town! Of course people went for that after being ignored for so long as BigCorp and BigBank conducted their "globalisation" experiments. This is a different level though because the egos of the people involved won"t be satisfied very much by bringing back a few factories that make jeans, they need bigger things, or maybe they genuinely thought they could do the Iranian people a favour?

Very interesting interview on Bloomberg just now with John Kirby, basically the vibe is growing stronger that some sort of Boots on the Ground (or some of it, Islands maybe) scheme is taking shape or has already been planned. He went into the massive logistics of military and observation assets that would be needed to effectively control the S of H, and frankly without the main allies joining in this isn"t going to happen, the reporter asked him if the administration were losing credibility as their presentation just isn"t consistent enough.