I need to say this out loud

[simplesimoneatspie]

As a British citizen I am disgusted in the utter cowardice of my own government at the moment. If you are an American citizen please believe that there are people in the UK who have no respect for the way we are distancing ourselves from what is happening in the Middle East.
Your government has backbone and courage and wants to do the right thing for all our children’s futures.
I applaud Trump for standing up for his country, military, citizens of Iran…the world, and he doesn't care who he might offend in doing so.
It’s such a pity the same can’t be said for our ‘leader’. I am actually ashamed of my country at this moment in time. I truly hope this changes over the coming days/weeks.

I want Putin in The Hague, where he belongs, on trial.

Err and how do you propose that happens?

Have you considered writing him a firm but polite letter asking him to attend?

How many UK citizens have Iran/Hamas etc killed in the last 5 years? How many service personnel are you prepared to see killed to avenge them?

You want to fight- go fight. Send your kids. Take Farage and co with you.

PS the US entered WW2 because they were "pre-emptively" attacked by the Japanese. Before that they were very happy to sit out.

I don’t want my taxes used to assist a world leader who rolled out a red carpet for him, that is for certain.

So 14 British citizens were killed by Hamas on October 7th terrorist attack (they were Jewish by the way).

Iran has been behind 20 terrorist attack plots against the UK in the last 5 years.

Prior to that the Iranians seized Royal Navy sailors on two separate occasions and held them hostage.

Iran have recently imprisoned a British couple.

So no Iran has not exactly been friendly to the UK.

It seems that you would rather support the Iranian regime if the alternative is supporting Trump's military action against them.

Not at all @1dayatatime, I'm just pointing out that despite all their machinations the body count has been (thank God) very small. They are not a major threat to us and - in my opinion anyway- we need not be so eager to send our troops into battle just because the orange shit demands it.

You didn't specify how many British lives you'd be willing to sacrifice btw. How many would be "worth it" - and what would "it" be anyway?

The most likely culprit for the school bombing is Iran as you'll find the majority of Iranians think - I'm sure you remember the regime carrying out mass poisoning of schoolgirls in late 2022 and 2023. And more recently the regime were open about bombing their own people including schools if attacked - why do you think they refused to return the bodies of the 10,000s of protesters they recently slaughtered - it's exactly for this kind of operation that gullible western lefties fall for.

Evidence for any of your unhinged propoganda?

In many ways it's irrelevant because after decades of defence spending cuts the UK would be unable to contribute anything militarily even if Starmer wanted to.

In terms of how many British military lives would be acceptable, clearly the ideal answer would be none.

But it does raise the question of what is the point of a military when the RAF Akrotiri base gets attacked (which is UK sovereign territory) and the response is nothing.

Or should the UK be involved in providing Navy vessels to protect shipping against Iran in the Straits of Hormuz? This isn't attacking Iran, it's simply stopping civilian shipping being attacked?

WTF?! Even Americans don’t approve of Trump’s war. Recent polling shows that this is deeply unpopular. He’s a nutter.

The UK needs to stay well out of this.

This

In the not too distant future this will probably be viewed as an illegal war. Starmer quite rightly was being cautious. Now Iran has started firing missiles left right and centre there’s justification I guess…..before that, not so much.

I mean it’s only a few weeks since USA bombed Iran’s “nuclear weapons programme facility “ and Trump declared it a total success. So if such a success why does Trump need to attack Iran now? What has Iran actually done? And he can’t use human rights stuff against their own people as an excuse or he wouldn’t have left Afghanistan in the mess it’s in. Plenty of other worse countries than Iran as well. Trump isn’t doing this for the Iranian people so let’s not pretend he is.

And remember this a president who recently kidnapped the president of another country (and his wife) on very odd charges and currently has them locked up in New York. If Putin was acting like this we’d be up in arms. Imagine if Mark Carney sent a task force to Washington, kidnapped Trump and helicoptered him back to Ottawa and locked him up because after all drugs pass over the border from the USA to Canada. According to Trump logic Canada would be justified.

He’s a dangerous man who makes no sense, does what he wants without any attention to international law. he may not even have abided by his own constitution about discussing this with Congress before acting.

What information sources do you have access to in order to formulate your opinions?

THIS.

Totally this. Especially since Trumps delusional justification of this insane war keeps changing – from Iran planning a preemptive strike to lobbying by Israel. He has dementia and the Israelis have manipulated him into doing their dirty work for them - he literally makes it up as he goes along.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/03/trump-administration-reasons-for-going-to-war-with-iran

Your batshit conspiracy theory was that Trump started this conflict in order to distract from Epstein.

You failed to produce any evidence to back up this nonsense. When challenged on this your response is - well
what evidence do you have that there isn't any evidence?

The answer to which of course is, the evidence of something not existing is that it doesn't exist!!

Then why the fuck is he letting them use our bases?! Absolutely ludicrous.

Because he agrees with what they will be used for, which is defence.

We are allies of the countries that Iran are attacking. The main goal is to destroy Iran's missile launchers. Sir Keir said the basis of the decision to accept the US request was the "collective self-defence" of allies and protecting British lives, accusing Iran of pursuing a "scorched-earth strategy".

The prime minister added the US would use UK bases for the "specific and limited defensive purpose" of destroying Iran's missiles "at source".

Sorry but I have to point out that Israel did have warnings of the imminent attack. From their own ranks and Egypt. They did have warnings. They failed to acknowledge them properly.

It is not clear yet whose missile rained on that school. I am not sure we will really know till the end of this conflict.
Bless them all.

They didn't get official warnings like Iran did that if they didn't agree to certain demands, then being attacked was a likely option.

Israel have acknowledged that they can learn lessons from 7/10/23 about not being vigilant enough to the threat of Hamas attacking them but they didn't know it was coming. If they did they would have done more to defend their own people since Israel do, as everyone knows, take defence very seriously.

I believe we absolutely should not be getting involved.

Let’s not forget the driving force behind Trumps involvement: The Epstein files. Nice distraction from letting the world see the truth about who you really are and what you have done.

Any evidence whatsover that the driving force for the war is the Epstein files?

Of all the batshit theories this one is the craziest.

It's just a coincidence then?

Is what a coincidence? People have been calling events a distraction from Epstein files for at least the last 12 months.

They could have done much better to protect their citizens.

https://www.ida.org/research-and-publications/publications/all/p/po/political-priorities-poor-intelligence-tradecraft-and-the-suppression-of-dissenting-views