Anti semitism - Bondi beach - when will it stop?

[mids2019]

Thoughts and prayers to those killed and injured in Australia.

Yes I agree. And one positive thing is the incredibly heroic action of the Muslim man who tackled and took the rifle from the terrorist. I hope the ripple effect of his heroism spreads far and wide and proves more contagious than the virus of racism and hate

Believe me I’m happy to say the majority of violence against Jewish people is currently carried out by extreme Muslim fanatics, just don’t totally dismiss the threat from others

Absolutely agree. You have put this perfectly.

Islamic extremism and other forms of religious fundamentalism actually mirror the rise of the far right here in the west.

look at Musk who has allowed extreme anti semitism to go unchecked on X. Misinformation is flooding the internet generally and it’s absolutely stirring up hate against Jewish people (and many other minority groups)

I’ll continue to listen to voices that talk about unity, peace, human rights. Not division or hate. Any ideology that justifies harm to people because of their religion or race is wrong.

Sadly the terrorist attack on Bondi Beach is what happens when calls by Western protesters to "Globalise the Intifada" are acted on.

For months people have been saying the failure of the police and government to successfully limit hate spread during the ubiquitous marches in the UK and other countries adds to the sense that extremists have public support. Calling for death to the IDF and globalise the intafada are simply calls to harm Jews and it is as we are now seeing happening.

If we have the left continually trying to demonize Israel and by extension Jews through calls to ban Israel from the international community then this can only lead to extremists taking heart that in their perverse world view they are somehow acting in. a righteous fashion.

Radicalisation is a process both in Gaza and elsewhere and we need a focus on cutting out the roots of the hard for the safety of the Jewish community and all our citizens. Islamic extremism is a clear and present threat.

A lot of ardent pro Palestine supporters suddenly have a blind spot when these events occur sadly.

Our most vocal pro Pal supporters certainly have a blind spot to this thread @mids2019 & the other threads on MN talking about the horrific attack on innocent Jews in Australia.

Australian authorities are hopefully taking the rise in antisemitism very seriously now. Yes, their government should have taken it more seriously before as were warned. Still, I believe their eyes have been opened now to the threat to their citizens from Islamic fundamentalism. The rise in antisemitic attacks across the world since 7/10/23 seems very real when it affects your community.

The 2 aggressors had ISIS flags in & draped over their car and had just spent a month in the Philippines which is a notorious training camp for ISIS. The son had already been flagged by Australian police. This awful event is going to make Australia toughen up their gun laws with more background checks around the family of the person applying to have a gun & with a stricter limit on the number of guns a person can get a permit for.

The 2 killers in Australia appear to have been influenced and possibly trained by ISIS linked extremists in the Philippines.

ISIS is considered a Far Right organisation.

Both far Right and far Left pose very real threats to Jews and possibly us all, to minimise the threat from the 'right or seek to blame the 'left is just repeating past mistakes.

Look at all extremists, thats where the threats lay

Yes can people see it yet or acknowledge the issue?

Usually it’s deflection.

Sorry but no one is buying your ludicrous attempt to try and re label ISIS as a far right organisation and bed fellow of Tommy Robinson.

They are simply an Islamist organisation that seeks to subvert Western values with Islamist ideology all with the backing of the useful left wing idiots.

If you go on a protest march and feel the need to wear a face mask because you are afraid or ashamed of openly and publicly expressing your views then maybe you might wish to reconsider those views.

To clarify - i think the far left are the supporters in the west who parrot Hamas propaganda NOT the actual terrorists.
I think the actual terrorists are Islamic fundamentalists who don’t identify with traditional “left” concerns in any way . Which is why it is so ironic that the far left avoid criticism of Hamas ( and even chant slogans which suggest support of Islamic fundamentalism)

Lol.
Do you know what the "I" in ISIS stands for?
"Islamic".
They're not called FSIS ( Far-Right State in Iraq and Syria).
They're a murderous fascistic fanatical group who have been so good at propaganda that clueless Western LEFTISTS think they're freedom fighters.
I'll keep saying it - Islamic fundamentalists are the primary terrorist threat to Jews and other civilians, and idiotic far leftists have enabled it.

Yet more attempts to try and pretend this is a right vs left issue.

Are you saying Islamists cannot be right wing? who knew! ISIS are widely considered a right wing terror organisation.

Its this sort of idiot thinking that will allow a right wing terror organisation to commit the next attack.

Why are you so frightened to acknowledge the threats from both left and right?

It’s bizarre.

Thankfully Mi5 recognise the threats and that labelling right and left is changing.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/director-general-ken-mccallum-gives-latest-threat-update

Yes it is bizarre that posters on the right are determined to see this only as a left wing issue, these labels are out of date, even Islamist is old hat, these people often have no clear ideologies, thats why its so difficult to counter.

Because even back in 2020 M15 stated that 75% of terrorist threats came from Islamic extremists. Today it is even higher.

The reality is that Islamic extremists are receiving support and sympathy from the left in the UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/05/inside-ugly-relationship-between-islamism-and-left/

No one (including M15) is buying your attempt to re label Islamic terrorists as right wing for your own narrative.

MI5, not M15, just for clarity.

It’s not about right versus left. The vast majority of left wing pro-Palestine marchers care deeply about anti-semitism. Because it’s unjust. That’s the same reason they’re marching for Palestine.

And there’s lots of right wingers, especially in the US who are opposed to the actions of the Israeli government.

It doesn’t make sense to put this as right versus left.

The reality is it won’t stop anytime soon until those in charge are open to discussing what the core issue is.

It’s such a shame though because it puts people on the defensive for things they don’t actually believe. It puts words into people’s mouth and just adds fuel to the fire.

When Netanyahu accuses Albanese of stoking the anti-Semitic fire by recognising Palestine, he is purposefully manipulating the world into accepting the equation Pro-Palestine = antisemitism. It will only fuel division when people refuse to accept those labels.

Historically the left wing or in the case of the Labour Party has always been associated with anti semitism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_British_Labour_Party

As for the Pro Palestinian protesters whether knowingly or through ignorance every chant of "From the River to the sea" is a call for the destruction of the state of Israel and every chant of "Globalise the intifada " is a call for the repeat of the the Bondi Beach massacre.

The reason that a large number of pro Palestinian protesters hide their faces behind masks is that they know this.

Oh really? You should try and let go of your "lets trash the left" quest.

The Conservative party has faced accusations of antisemitism since it was founded in the early 19th C.

Continuing into the modern era.

And it was those on the left, that first confronted the fascists in Europe, whilst the right wing in the UK supported Hitler.

Anyone who thinks antisemitism is a Left only issue is quite honestly, an idiot, who has no grasp of its spread into wider society.

I can’t answer for the “Globalise the intifada” because I’ve never heard it chanted on the marches I’ve been on so I wouldn’t have been able to talk to the people who have chanted it.

But “from the river to the sea” means - at least to the people I’ve spoken to - freedom for Palestinians from the river to the sea and not the destruction of Jews.

Absolutely agree. It’s utterly tragic that ISIS it seems and others are using the suffering in Gaza to spread fear, hate and ultimately violence against Jewish people generally and then The Israeli authorities and others are using this awful terrorist attack to shut down any criticism of Israeli - linking all criticism with the violence - so they can continue their own campaign of violence.

I am not articulating it very well but it’s just all very dark and sad.

From the River to the Sea has been used both by Palestinians and Israelis to mean that the area between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean should consist of one single state. And therein lies the problem. We essentially have two peoples who both believe the same piece of land should be theirs.