Reconstruction of Gaza - realistic?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj41y42qxq8o

I think the problem with the below is the mammoth coast and the problem of who pays. To build a city of the size of Birmingham from scratch including public infrastructure to a sufficient standard using non slave Labour is going to be astronomical. Who pays? All the Arab states (although some with concentrated extreme wealth) have their own domestic pressures without stumping up hundreds of billions to produce a new sixth state. There could be international loans but that would bring into question Gazan public debt and how loans could be repaid.

There is also the thorny question about how Gazans go about establishing legal ownership of land or whether they need to buy it again. It seems like a conveyincing nightmare. One solution would be to build identical properties and allocate them the to the populace as a whole but would Gazans want this form of communism in terms of property? If you do have a housing market how do establish a realistic economy to support it?

International aid is extremely stressed and certainly as a UK tax payer I would hope we wouldn't get to involved and as Gazan reconstruction is talked about we should be conscious of the levels of poverty in other regions of the world.

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Logical me says the people who destroyed it should contribute to the cost of reconstruction! Might discourage them from doing it again.

Billions of aid has been given in the past and spent on weapons and tunnels and invested abroad, it's time to use that. Apparently hamas have a lot of real estate in Turkey, perhaps a bit of forensic accounting could redirect that income to Gaza.
Many countries are funding Syria's rebuild, but I imagine there is wariness that if the hamas,pij etc ideology remains, there will be destruction again.

I would imagine Israel will pay reparation and the rest of us will help where we can. I think there is a huge appetite to help the predominantly very very young population of Palestine onto its feet.

Well obviously Israel needs to fund a large part of it. America too, and any other Countries (which will include our own I’m afraid) that encouraged the destruction.

Agreed. All Hamas assets need to seized as they are wealthy. As well as decommissionimg their weapons and making sure they have no political role.

I think as individuals refusing to buy Israeli goods and services where you can and spending your money on Palestinian goods and services when they become available will help as trade always does. Things will get better.

If you actually believe Israel went to all that effort to flatten the place only to have it rebuilt you are dreaming. Talk of reconstruction and Gazans being allowed to stay is nothing but smoke and mirrors. The plan has not changed and Israel knows all it has to do now is wait.

Iran & Russia could have their pockets turned out too.
China seem interested in belts and roads, have been courting middle eastern interests, and are too big to care about international scrutiny. I wonder what role they could play.

I do not want a penny of my money going there
Hamas have plenty of money
they can but rockets guns etc
the leaders live in luxury flats in the USE
The people of Gaza need to rebel against Hamas

I just wonder at the economics of such things.

It costs millions and takes years just to build a block of flats in the UK. To think that Gaza City is going to be the new Dubai is for the birds so it does make you think how reconstruction can (if at all) happen. My prediction is that we have an extended hiatus with this conflict and there will be a slow progression from tents to prefab buildings but that will take some time. There will be jobs in construction for young Gazans but I don't how you start developing a surrounding economy such that people are earning money to pay taxes etc. As far as I can see any construction would involve giving Gazans free houses and for the life of me I can't see anywhere in the world this happens?

You are taking essentially a third world country and expecting it to become a teeming metropolis within a decade. That would take phenomenal economic growth.

I think a problem is that while some countries have expressed willingness to get involved in the rebuilding of Gaza, they all want something for it. In other words they seem to see it as an investment opportunity rather than something to do for humanitarian reasons. I'm not sure either if many countries would be willing to spend billions of dollars on a place where there could be more fighting in future.

Germany had to pay reparations due to starting WW1 so maybe Hamas should be made liable for starting this war. Though I think the richest Hamas leaders are living in luxury overseas now. Not sure they will be that interested in helping with the rebuilding of Gaza.

Absolutely.

15 to 20 years to clear the rubble at a cost of half a billion alone. Winters in nothing more than tents over homes they used to live in. No medical care as 90% of hospitals are destroyed. No schooling. Nothing but gruel to feed what's left of the children. A new born now wouldn't see a roof over their head until they were twenty. Israel has completed exactly what it wanted. A very well planned insidious ethnic cleansing. Encourage voluntary emigration. Probably one of the most sinister and evil expressions I've ever heard.

Gosh, what a vivid imagination you have.

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Its not being rebuilt for gazans. Its been rebuilt for Israelis. Basic knowledge. This has been the plan all along. Most people knew that all along

• Gaza "would be totally destroyed" and its people should seek "relocation to begin a new life in other places". - Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich

That’s your personal opinion @Superfoodie123 rather than a fact. Just because a far right finance minister says something, that doesn’t make it true. Netanyahu agreed to the peace plan which includes the eventual withdrawal of IDF troops & for Gaza to be run by a Palestinian authority with an international peacekeeping force.

Some Gazans may choose to relocate while the rebuilding takes place but that will be their choice not forced eviction. The terms of the peace plan make it clear that the plan is not for Gaza to be “rebuilt for Israel”. It will be rebuilt for Palestinian people to live there but there are huge problems doing so while Hamas are still refusing to hand over their weapons & surrender. Literally no country is going to pour huge amount of resources into rebuilding Gaza while there are still terrorists with guns running around. This is the big problem with entering the next phase but I’m sure we all on MN hope that a way can be found to move into phase two. Not for the benefit of Israel but for the people of Gaza.

Too true. Horrible that we are discussing which vultures might be plotting their descent. Let’s not continue this pretence that any of this will be to benefit Gazans. We only have to look at what settlers are doing in the West Bank to understand that ethnic cleansing is endemic.