Trump's new Gaza Plan

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Return of the hostages and an Islamic Arab government: Inside Trump's new Gaza plan:

The Trump administration has reportedly put forward a peace plan which would eventually lead to a complete end to the war in Gaza, a Western source told the Lebanese media site Elnashra on Wednesday, only a day after US President Donald Trump met with the leaders of Muslim countries.

The plan reportedly includes a 20-day ceasefire followed by the return of the hostages. It is unclear in the report, however, how many of the 48 hostages would be returned at this stage of the deal.

Following the return of the abductees, an Arab administration made up of Islamic nations would take over the administration of the Palestinian enclave, according to Elnashra. During this time, a Palestinian government would reportedly be built without the infiltration of Hamas.

Other sources told the Lebanese paper that the Muslim leaders attending the meeting with Trump were supportive of the American president's proposal. Still, they were reportedly awaiting a response from Hamas and Israel to see if the proposal could be fruitful.

The meeting was held on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York and included leaders from the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-868469

Ah, have the peace plan headed by the guy that most of the world (outside of the self appointed “international community”) regards as a massive war criminal for his actions in the Middle East. Sounds just great.

I think you need a kind of a co unit between a person/country Israel trust and a person/country Palestinian would trust

I don’t think I know enough about global affairs to suggest people. But the idea that Trump would back something that didn’t have him at the helm is far fetched to say the least.

Lets just hope it’s not a cover for “Trump Gaza”

It is extremely difficult to trust this turnaround on the US part. Maybe it was the Qatar bombing.

Well, Merkel hasn’t done it, Trump has.

There is no way a woman would be able to deliver a peace deal in that region.

The fact that there is nothing in the plan about Palestianian statehood, a state governed by Palestinians. So Israel will play nice and “follow the plan” for a few years at most … before then starting to ignore bits of it here and there and then a bit more and then a bit more. At which point the US and Europe will tut tut for a decade or two but nothing more. And so the cycle repeats.

Not to mention the fact that she showed little particular interest in the ME or in being involved in international politics since she left frontline politics. And she had a poor relationship with Trump.

Well I’m no expert on the conflict, but obviously the hundreds of thousands illegal settlers are not “retaliation”. Stealing or bulldozing somebody’s home in their own land is an act of violence …. you missing such an obvious counter argument makes me wonder about your ability to discuss anything much in good faith.

I don't think it's even a cover for it. It's just blatant.

Netenyahu thanked Kushner for his work on it, Kushner who previously started that Israel should “Finish the Job” in Gaza so it can focus on building valuable “Waterfront Property. He also owns private equity firm which focuses on investments in real estate...

The plan couldn't be more transparent if it was made of glass.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-kills-22-people-including-9-children-in-horrific-massacre-in-gaza-palestinian-officials-say-13437228

And furthermore, I think two years into the conflict, it’s probably about time we stop justifying this wanton slaughter of children as somehow justified “Israeli retaliation” for a terrorist attack two years ago. Netanyahu and co have proven themselves as evil as Hamas.

@Min when Israel pumped 355 bullets into a car with a 6 year old girl inside surrounded by the corpses of her family, what had she done that they were retaliating against?

How exactly did she attack them?

You could be right.

But even if this does turn out to be the case, it's still better to end the war than keep it dragging on a few more months or years. Let's face it, the people living in Gaza were never going to come out of the war with a great outcome. They were dragged into a war that was only ever going to lead to a huge amount of bloodshed for the civilians stuck there.

Hamas massively miscalculated. Or got what they wanted in terms of bad publicity for Israel, depending on what you believe.

Ok thanks. I must have missed that.

Has she even indicated she would do it?

What’s better would be to end the war with many of those twenty points but also a clear roadmap for a two state solution. That way it’s not just a bandaid. But we all know that Israel and the US don’t desire a two state solution. So let’s not pretend that Hamas is the only issue.

Maybe that would be better still but I've never felt that talk of a two state solution is realistic at the present time - it's too soon after 7/10.

And yes, it's true that Netanyahu doesn't want it and Hamas don't want it so the calls for it were more symbolic than anything.

(and the peace plan may seem like a band aid to you but if it stops the war it will be life saving for many Gazans).

I don't think it's even a cover for it. It's just blatant.

Netenyahu thanked Kushner for his work on it, Kushner who previously started that Israel should “Finish the Job” in Gaza so it can focus on building valuable “Waterfront Property. He also owns private equity firm which focuses on investments in real estate...

The plan couldn't be more transparent if it was made of glass.

no I think that was a suggestion purely from this posters vivid imagination.

Not a clue. But she's the sort of respected figure which people might actually trust.

Doesn't have to be her. But Trump is about the worst person and the planet (okay narrowly behind Netanyahu and his gang) to do this.

You can't bully people into trusting you, and trust it's what is needed here .

And trump's motives are so completely transparent.

Yes Kusher is a red flag.

However it does have the suppprt of most of the key actors and is infinitely better than Israel’s last plan for a large guarded Camp. Hopefully it will prevent the huge numbers dying of hunger and starvation. And in a few years, when leaders change… it could lead to real peace.

Reported in Sky news that Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron and Giorgia Meloni have all welcomed Donald Trump's plan for ending Israel's war in Gaza.

The British prime minister said: "We strongly support [Trump's] efforts to end the fighting, release the hostages and ensure the provision of urgent humanitarian assistance for the people of Gaza. This is our top priority and should happen immediately."

Starmer called on Hamas to now agree to the plan and "end the misery".

So why have so many countries signed up to it?

Many countries are backing it. Sadly if Hamas say no then it doesn’t help Gazans.

Because you say no to Trump at your peril.
Just think of all the stupid stuff Trump has come up with, drinking bleach for covid, paracetamol causing autism. Our government has never called out the stupidity because the punishment from a narcissistic bastard like Trump isn't worth it.

He's such a powerful bully. It doesn't matter what he says.

Let's see what happens when the dust settles anyway. I can't see how he has time to run Gaza as well as his own country, and it would severely cut into his golfing time.

One thing I'm curious of though is this plan was mooted as being headed up by Tony Blair (a stupid idea, but not on this sort of level in my opinion). The copies of the plan that release to the media had Tony Blair in charge. Note those that are leaked paper indicates that although there is a 'board' most decisions will be taken by the head. Why the last minute change in the last 24 hours? Was this Netanyahu's request? Was it trump's plan to get other countries on board without it looking like he was trying to colonise and then deliberately shifting it when it was almost too late? It's very odd.

Only that doesn't happen. Nobody has their private property stolen.

So the settlers don't exist?

The 'job' is the release of the hostages and the disarmament of the Palestinian militants. If that happens voluntarily in return for lasting peace, the 'job' will have been finished. Israel is more than happy to achieve its aim without any bloodshed.