Trump's new Gaza Plan

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Return of the hostages and an Islamic Arab government: Inside Trump's new Gaza plan:

The Trump administration has reportedly put forward a peace plan which would eventually lead to a complete end to the war in Gaza, a Western source told the Lebanese media site Elnashra on Wednesday, only a day after US President Donald Trump met with the leaders of Muslim countries.

The plan reportedly includes a 20-day ceasefire followed by the return of the hostages. It is unclear in the report, however, how many of the 48 hostages would be returned at this stage of the deal.

Following the return of the abductees, an Arab administration made up of Islamic nations would take over the administration of the Palestinian enclave, according to Elnashra. During this time, a Palestinian government would reportedly be built without the infiltration of Hamas.

Other sources told the Lebanese paper that the Muslim leaders attending the meeting with Trump were supportive of the American president's proposal. Still, they were reportedly awaiting a response from Hamas and Israel to see if the proposal could be fruitful.

The meeting was held on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York and included leaders from the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-868469

I think they need to be freed of Hamas too. I hope the deal is taken.

Hamas has said it will respond to Gaza peace plan laid out by the US and Israel tomorrow after US President Donald Trump said the group had “three or four days” to respond.

I blame everyone that has and continues to control them
and that includes Trump

Yes but Trump wouldn’t be involved if Hamas hadn’t dragged them into a war.

Agree definately free of Hamas
but
Long term the current deal is bad for them

I’m hoping the Arab states can negotiate further for more clarification and an eventual Palestinian State. With no IDF or Israeli presence and a phasing out of Trumps control

Perhaps an agreement on further discussions after it’s enacted

13.20 on the live link.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/30/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-trump-peace-plan-latest-news-middle-east-crisis-live

I think it's that there PA needs to fulfil the terms of a 2020 deal which basically required the PA to do what it says in the quote. It puts Palestinians in an incredibly vulnerable position yet again.

It means immunity from prosecution effectively for Israeli's, to do whatever they want in Gaza, West Bank.

Thankfully it won't interfere with the arrest warrant against Netenyahu or the genocide case before the ICJ.

The 2020 plan also required the PA to disarm Hamas and other terror organisations/Palestinians under their authority and to also stop the Pay to Slay programme.

Are those clause ok or are they also outrageous?

I think all it would take is for Western leaders to provide direct military aid and political support to those directly involved in committing genocide in Sudan. No more, no less.

So its not people dying that's the problem, it's who is kiling them?

No- it’s our government failing to not call it out AND condoning and actively supporting it.

@SharonEllis
The marches were to influence our government- not Hamas nor Israel.

It’s not a deal, it’s a demand for capitulation.

Hamas have to disband but not Israel?

No timeline for a Palestinian statehood?

No leverage for Palestine if Israel renege? Which they have form for doing.

No restrictions on Israeli expansion into the West Bank?

And no choice to take the deal, because otherwise Trump will support Netanyahu in whatever he wants which we all know will be annihilation.

I hope Hamas take it for the sake of the people’s immediate safety but it’s not a good deal for the Palestinians in the long run.

What has been done to the Palestinians over the last century is just pure injustice.

Absolutely. We have some modicum of power over our government, or at least we are supposed to have.They have a duty to not support a genocide. But they have done. It breaks my heart.

Living under an occupation will do that to you.
Seeing your sister carried off to an Israeli jail or your uncle paralysed by the IDF isn’t going to fill you with love is it?

Tony Blair—a war criminal ..Give me a break

Well it's the United Arab Emirates (UAE) a Western ally that is providing aid to the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) who are accused of and document their own war crimes in Sudan:

https://news.sky.com/story/uae-is-main-backer-behind-rsf-militia-in-sudan-intelligence-officer-claims-in-secret-interview-13437966

And UAE is also implicated in Yemen. One of the UK's biggest arms customers. Again dwarfing sales to Israel. And pretty dodgy human rights record of its own

I’m not ignoring your point but you’re proving mine.

In your second post you admitted that there is hate on both sides but your first post just focused the blame on the indoctrination of Palestinian children.

You still completely ignore the indoctrination that Israeli children go through.

TRT world has a really good interview with a woman who talks about what Israelis learn in school about Arabs.

And Hamza Saadah’s videos show how much young Israeli children are taught to hate.

They are both on YouTube. You can easily look them up.

So it works both ways. You can’t say one without the other.

I said that there was hate on both sides, obviously there will be hate and mistrust on the Israeli side after the heinous atrocities of 7/10. I did not say that Israeli children are taught in schools to hate. I don’t know what videos you have been watching, but they are not. They are most certainly not taught that martyrdom is something to aim for.

You think Yahya Sinwar was a remarkable man. How many little girls died because of him? How did they attack him?

Watch the videos before you make judgement please.
Here is one.

And search for Hamza Saadah on Instagram or YouTube. It’s scary.

They’re not taught to be martyrs but they’re taught to dehumanise the Palestinians to the point that their lives don’t matter and that the only way for themselves to be safe is to control the Palestinians. Which is just as bad.

You mean that American YouTuber who makes a career out of yelling at random Israeli teenagers online? What does that prove?

I urge anyone who wants context on how Israel brainwashes its children to watch this video.

The last in the video (who appears to be an Israeli who moved out and is attending an anti-Zionist convention) lists all the ways she was indoctrinated at school. It includes things like having a large map of Israel on the wall (the Green Line included but she didn’t really seem sure of what that was) in all classrooms, being taught a historical prospective of Judaism, being told of all the people who have attacked Jews over millennia, having the declaration that created Israel on the wall and having an Israeli flag in the classroom. All of these things combined amounted to indoctrination against the Palestinians aided by ‘racism’ tones in how Arabs were portrayed.

From what she said, it seems as thought the focus is on how Israel became to be and why and encourages a strong sense of nationhood from an early age.

Compare that to videos I’ve seen of UNRWA teachers describing what’s in the curriculum, pupils being interviewed and saying all Jews are dogs or the only good Jew is a dead Jew, pupils being encouraged to worship martyrs, summer military camps and fun little games of Hostage Taking and I’m not sure this video evidences anywhere near the level of indoctrination seen in Gazan schools.

If this video is your best example and it applies across all schools in Israel, what is being taught in Israeli schools is nowhere near comparable with Gazan schools.