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Conflict in the Middle East

UN confirms Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza

102 replies

weareallequal · 16/09/2025 08:12

Just announced

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GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 14:54

fao · 17/09/2025 14:50

Can you please explain what you're saying further? Why is it anti-Semitic to condemn Israel's killing of children and civilians in general?

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Happy to respond but the PP has not given me an answer to my earlier question.

Thanks

hkathy · 17/09/2025 15:58

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 14:40

So, following your logic.

Who has tried to, or has stated their aim is to commit genocide against Israel?

It’s only because Israel are stronger than their enemies that they continue to exist at all.

Back to context…

two genocides don’t make a right.

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:08

hkathy · 17/09/2025 15:58

two genocides don’t make a right.

At last - someone accepts there is a genocide being prosecuted in Ukraine.

It’s otherwise telling that others have remained silent.

hkathy · 17/09/2025 16:28

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GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:31

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Why the need to insult?

The notion that there is only one genocide being perpetrated in the world is clearly false.

Your religious faith is otherwise irrelevant.

hkathy · 17/09/2025 16:54

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:31

Why the need to insult?

The notion that there is only one genocide being perpetrated in the world is clearly false.

Your religious faith is otherwise irrelevant.

Wow.
As I said. As a jew, not in my name.

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 17:23

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:31

Why the need to insult?

The notion that there is only one genocide being perpetrated in the world is clearly false.

Your religious faith is otherwise irrelevant.

There is a genocide going on in Sudan. I agree, it doesn't get the air time.

Another one in Ukraine. Some of the air time but less than Gaza.

However, people on the CITME threads are here to talk about Gaza only. For many reasons, I wont go into, some people focus on Gaza, hence its own separate thread. Its not hard to understand.

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RandomWordsThrownTogether · 17/09/2025 17:30

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:31

Why the need to insult?

The notion that there is only one genocide being perpetrated in the world is clearly false.

Your religious faith is otherwise irrelevant.

No one has denied any other genocides - what everyone is saying is just because you have a murdering scumbag down the road doesn’t give you carte blanche to become a murdering scumbag yourself.

Also stating you are carpet bombing a population including small children so that they won’t do the same to you is absolutely ludicrous. All those kids want to do is go to school, play in playgrounds, eat food, grow up!

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:33

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 17:23

There is a genocide going on in Sudan. I agree, it doesn't get the air time.

Another one in Ukraine. Some of the air time but less than Gaza.

However, people on the CITME threads are here to talk about Gaza only. For many reasons, I wont go into, some people focus on Gaza, hence its own separate thread. Its not hard to understand.

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There is no lack of understanding here - I simply wanted posters to acknowledge that genocide is not limited to the Middle East.

I am pleased that we have now reached agreement on that.

Genocide - wherever it is perpetrated - is abhorrent, and should be roundly condemned.

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 17:44

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:33

There is no lack of understanding here - I simply wanted posters to acknowledge that genocide is not limited to the Middle East.

I am pleased that we have now reached agreement on that.

Genocide - wherever it is perpetrated - is abhorrent, and should be roundly condemned.

There was never any disagreement.

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GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:57

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 17:44

There was never any disagreement.

You can have the last word, it’s ok.

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 18:17

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:57

You can have the last word, it’s ok.

😂 thank you so much 😉

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Ellen2shoes · 17/09/2025 20:57

Israel have cut the electricity and all power and murdered nearly all the journalists, and the ongoing massacre and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians continues to be whitewashed by our main media channels. The suffering inflicted by Israel, funded by the US and the UK and Germany amongst others is beyond horror. Of course it’s a genocide. The hypocrisy, complicity and denial of the leaders of government continues while we listen to our main news channels pontificating on the monetary deals made between these governments profiting from the genocide.

There is evidence and they will be found guilty but the process is ineffectually long and in the name of those being slaughtered daily in the most abominable circumstances, action must be taken immediately to stop Israel from perpetuating the genocide. This has broken the humanity of the world. It can and should be stopped now.

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 21:20

This has broken the humanity of the world.
Not entirely sure what this means?

It can and should be stopped now.
Who do you think is going to prevent the ongoing conflict? You refer to funding, ‘hyprocrisy, complicity and denial’ by the US, UK and Germany et al. So, who is going to stop it? Russia or China, perhaps India?

Ellen2shoes · 17/09/2025 22:46

There is a clear paradigmatic shift where globally people are expressing anguish at their helplessness in the face of this horror. and such an egregious breach of all the humanitarian laws which were set in place in the last century and which people believed would prevent such an abomination from happening. Now it is happening in front of our eyes. If this is not broken humanity to you, I can’t explain more.

Who will stop it? Exactly. This is part of the despair we feel as it continues unchecked. Democracies are complicit. Something is broken. For millions of us, it feels like humanity.

hkathy · 17/09/2025 23:33

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:33

There is no lack of understanding here - I simply wanted posters to acknowledge that genocide is not limited to the Middle East.

I am pleased that we have now reached agreement on that.

Genocide - wherever it is perpetrated - is abhorrent, and should be roundly condemned.

So condemn it then.

GladioliGreen · 18/09/2025 00:04

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 17:33

There is no lack of understanding here - I simply wanted posters to acknowledge that genocide is not limited to the Middle East.

I am pleased that we have now reached agreement on that.

Genocide - wherever it is perpetrated - is abhorrent, and should be roundly condemned.

I think that that's all people want really for it to be condemned. Instead the UK government invited a man who the UN say has been inciting genocide around for tea and David Lammy wrote a letter basicly saying nothing to see here whilst the UK continue to supply a genocidal government with crucial components for the F-35 jets that are incinerating Gaza and it's people. The UK operates relentless surveillance flights over Gaza passing intelligence onto a genocidal state. And rather than impose sweeping sanctions, British ministers facilitate trade with Israel worth £6bn a year.

Why does the UK government have such an issue with acknowledging what the UN and every major NGO are saying and taking their legal obligation to do everything in their power to stop this genocide seriously?

GabrielsOboe · 18/09/2025 04:26

It’s called Realpolitik - weaken Israel, and strategically, the Middle East looks very differently. A resurgent Iran would see increased terrorism in the region, and Israel is understandably unwilling to provide Hamas and Hezbollah with a platform for further attacks. The poor civilians are collateral in a war started by Iran and its proxies.

Meanwhile , China is facilitating Russia’s war against Ukraine, India is funding Russia’s war effort, and North Korea is supplying troops.

quantumbutterfly · 18/09/2025 10:01

GabrielsOboe · 18/09/2025 04:26

It’s called Realpolitik - weaken Israel, and strategically, the Middle East looks very differently. A resurgent Iran would see increased terrorism in the region, and Israel is understandably unwilling to provide Hamas and Hezbollah with a platform for further attacks. The poor civilians are collateral in a war started by Iran and its proxies.

Meanwhile , China is facilitating Russia’s war against Ukraine, India is funding Russia’s war effort, and North Korea is supplying troops.

Grain ships from occupied Ukraine have been tracked to Iran courtesy of Russia.
It's quite the power play and those who talk about making the world a safer place may be looking in the wrong direction.

PearlClutches · 18/09/2025 11:07

Stripes56 · 16/09/2025 22:03

That picture is awful.

Google Earth / maps shows the extent of destruction across the strip.

The strange thing is that there are umpteen buildings that have been destroyed but not flattened. These buildings can’t have been hit to destroy tunnels- as they are still standing but have considerable damage. I find it shocking that the IDG have hit all these targets and yet have failed to destroy Hamas. It really makes me question how they selected buildings to destroy.

The IDG used AI computer algorithms to identify targets - eg Daddy’s home (apt name!) and Lavender. It really makes you think about the accuracy of these algorithms if you can destroy so much of an infrastructure of Gaza, kill so many innocent people and still argue that Hamas have a stronghold in Gaza.

Somethings gone very clearly very very wrong. And the world has stood by and watched.

It doesn’t make any sense. How can so much infrastructure be destroyed, so many people be killed, yet still Hamas have gone nowhere and are no less powerful than they were before this conflict?

PearlClutches · 18/09/2025 11:16

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 16:08

At last - someone accepts there is a genocide being prosecuted in Ukraine.

It’s otherwise telling that others have remained silent.

To be fair that’s probably to be expected in a sub forum specifically about the conflict in the middle east.

GabrielsOboe · 18/09/2025 11:18

PearlClutches · 18/09/2025 11:07

It doesn’t make any sense. How can so much infrastructure be destroyed, so many people be killed, yet still Hamas have gone nowhere and are no less powerful than they were before this conflict?

The Hamas leadership has been decapitated, so I’m not sure why you make that comment.

I would imagine Israel are mopping up, for want of a better expression.

MummytoE · 18/09/2025 11:20

Gloriia · 16/09/2025 08:19

Does anyone take any notice of the UN anymore?

Yes, most people do. Rightly so

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/09/2025 11:24

GabrielsOboe · 17/09/2025 12:00

Save some pity for the poor Ukrainians please.

It’s very possible to have pity or empathy for more than one group of people simultaneously. Many Ukrainian people have benefitted enormously from the sympathy and welcome of the people of the UK. How many Palestinian refugees have been taken into British people’s homes?

I’m not entirely sure what you are trying to say?

hkathy · 18/09/2025 13:12

GabrielsOboe · 18/09/2025 11:18

The Hamas leadership has been decapitated, so I’m not sure why you make that comment.

I would imagine Israel are mopping up, for want of a better expression.

I just find comments like this so short sighted.
What do you think is going to happen to the hundreds of thousands of children and young people affected by Israel killing their family members, displacing them and bombing their homes?
You think they’ll just sit and not want revenge?

All Israel has done is ensure this murderous bullshit carries on for another fifty years.

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