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UN confirms Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza

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weareallequal · 16/09/2025 08:12

Just announced

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weareallequal · 16/09/2025 08:13

So what happens now then?

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Gloriia · 16/09/2025 08:19

Does anyone take any notice of the UN anymore?

Kakeandkake · 16/09/2025 08:53

Too little, too late. Israel has and is still carrying out a genocide in Gaza. They are an oppressive brutal state.

Kakeandkake · 16/09/2025 08:53

Gloriia · 16/09/2025 08:19

Does anyone take any notice of the UN anymore?

Ofcourse.

Kakeandkake · 16/09/2025 08:56

This is damning.

It also alleges that Israeli military personnel have carried out sexual and gender-based violence, including "rape and sexualised torture", as part of "a pattern of collective punishment", and accuses Israeli forces of deliberately targeting some children "with the intention to kill them".

weareallequal · 16/09/2025 08:58

The commission, which has been studying the conduct of Israel since the Hamas attacks of 7 October 2023, has concluded that Israel has committed four of the five acts laid out in the Genocide Convention.

What's the 5th act which hasn't been proven?

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indoorplantqueen · 16/09/2025 09:05

It’s hardly a surprise. Most of us with a brain have known this for months.

quantumbutterfly · 16/09/2025 10:21

It's not the ICJ, it's a UN commission looking to establish intent.

I read the UN will be discussing a 2state solution peace plan without hamas and with hostage release on 22/9.

GladioliGreen · 16/09/2025 10:22

weareallequal · 16/09/2025 08:58

The commission, which has been studying the conduct of Israel since the Hamas attacks of 7 October 2023, has concluded that Israel has committed four of the five acts laid out in the Genocide Convention.

What's the 5th act which hasn't been proven?

This BBC article covers this https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

The commission alleges that Israeli authorities and Israeli forces have committed four of the five acts of genocide defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention against a national, ethnic, racial or religious group - in this case, Palestinians in Gaza:

  • Killing members of the group through attacks on protected objects; targeting civilians and other protected persons; and the deliberate infliction of conditions causing deaths
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group through direct attacks on civilians and protected objects; severe mistreatment of detainees; forced displacement; and environmental destruction
  • Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the group in whole or in part through destruction of structures and land essential to Palestinians; destruction and denial of access to medical services; forced displacement; blocking essential aid, water, electricity and fuel from reaching Palestinians; reproductive violence; and specific conditions impacting children
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births through the December 2023 attack on Gaza's largest fertility clinic, reportedly destroying around 4,000 embryos and 1,000 sperm samples and unfertilised eggs

To fulfil the legal definition of genocide under the Genocide Convention, it must also be established that the perpetrator committed any one of those acts with specific intent to destroy the group in whole or in part.

The commission says it analysed statements made by Israeli leaders and alleges that President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defence Minister Yoav Gallant have "incited the commission of genocide".

It also states that "genocidal intent was the only reasonable inference" that could be concluded from the pattern of conduct of Israeli authorities and security forces in Gaza.

File photo showing the mother of Palestinian teenager Khaled al-Shinbari holds his shoes during his funeral at al-Shifa hospital, in Gaza City, northern Gaza (28 August 2025)

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

TomeTome · 16/09/2025 10:33

I would think the next step is sanctions, and then peacekeeping forces on the ground, trial for war crimes and an interim government. If that would really happen, I don’t know, but what sensible plan is there when a country lobs bombs in all directions and slaughters tens of thousands of civilians?

PearlClutches · 16/09/2025 10:41

I just do not understand how anyone can possibly look at images like this and still say Israel doesn't target civilians, theres no genocide etc.. these pictures just don't support those views anymore. Anyone can see by looking at pictures like this what is really happening. Unless of course we are to believe that these kind of images are of solely of Hamas neighborhoods.

UN confirms Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza
1457bloom · 16/09/2025 10:44

This has all been done with the full support of Donald Trump. He could have stopped this with one phone call.

1457bloom · 16/09/2025 10:46

Gloriia · 16/09/2025 08:19

Does anyone take any notice of the UN anymore?

Israel and the US certainly don’t.

GladioliGreen · 16/09/2025 10:49

It will be interesting to see if or how any countries react to this.

It also warns all other countries have an immediate obligation under the Genocide Convention to "prevent and punish the crime of genocide", employing all measures at their disposal. If they do not, it says, they could be complicit.

"We have not gone so far as to name parties as co-conspirators, or being complicit in genocide. But that is the… ongoing work of this commission. They will get there," Pillay said.

Countries need to act soon as Defence Minister Israel Katz wrote on X today "Gaza is burning".

Mumbletoomuch · 16/09/2025 10:49

It’s so incredibly sad and scary. Not just the needless loss of life and dignity for all of these Palestinians, but the loss of our own safety nets. America and Israel answer to no one.

mids2019 · 16/09/2025 11:21

You can't avoid the fact there seems to be a political timing of this report. As the Israeli engage in a final assault of Gaza the UN seems to want to perhaps reduce US support to Israel be influencing public opinion. The timing is just ahead of an important state visit by Trump to the UK and it seems to be a way of trying to force Starmer to push Gaza up the agenda in their talks which should be focusing on trade. By producing this report at this precise moment the implicit suggestion is that the US would be complicit in alleged genocide for supplying Israel with weapons and so embarrassing our King and PM for hosting the US president.

The UN have lost credibility with Israel and perhaps the US and the report as not a legal indictment will only serve to entrench Israeli positions and cause an increase in division.

PaxAeterna · 16/09/2025 12:33

@mids2019 What a crying shame that the UK will be obliged to talk about starving children. dead civilians and unbearable suffering rather than just focusing on trade.

Kakeandkake · 16/09/2025 12:58

All those people who would get so worked up when someone would point out that it is a genocide, should feel ashamed. They weren't half as bothered that Israel were and are killing countless innocents every day.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 16/09/2025 14:23

It is a pity they took so long to go through the evidence and reach this conclusion. I understand there is a process and it is slow but given how many people have been murdered I wish they could all move a bit quicker on this. It would be good to see boots on the ground from Europe and UN to protect the native Palestinians.

Hopefully we will soon see the murderers and rapists in the IDF arrested when they go on cruises and holidays abroad. There needs to be concrete actions and sanctions that come out of the report!

hkathy · 16/09/2025 20:30

mids2019 · 16/09/2025 11:21

You can't avoid the fact there seems to be a political timing of this report. As the Israeli engage in a final assault of Gaza the UN seems to want to perhaps reduce US support to Israel be influencing public opinion. The timing is just ahead of an important state visit by Trump to the UK and it seems to be a way of trying to force Starmer to push Gaza up the agenda in their talks which should be focusing on trade. By producing this report at this precise moment the implicit suggestion is that the US would be complicit in alleged genocide for supplying Israel with weapons and so embarrassing our King and PM for hosting the US president.

The UN have lost credibility with Israel and perhaps the US and the report as not a legal indictment will only serve to entrench Israeli positions and cause an increase in division.

Israel has engaged in the act of killing a group of people, causing intentional harm and suffering, displacing them, intentionally starving people, children.

60,000 people have been killed.

But this is what you’re focussed on.

Stripes56 · 16/09/2025 22:03

PearlClutches · 16/09/2025 10:41

I just do not understand how anyone can possibly look at images like this and still say Israel doesn't target civilians, theres no genocide etc.. these pictures just don't support those views anymore. Anyone can see by looking at pictures like this what is really happening. Unless of course we are to believe that these kind of images are of solely of Hamas neighborhoods.

That picture is awful.

Google Earth / maps shows the extent of destruction across the strip.

The strange thing is that there are umpteen buildings that have been destroyed but not flattened. These buildings can’t have been hit to destroy tunnels- as they are still standing but have considerable damage. I find it shocking that the IDG have hit all these targets and yet have failed to destroy Hamas. It really makes me question how they selected buildings to destroy.

The IDG used AI computer algorithms to identify targets - eg Daddy’s home (apt name!) and Lavender. It really makes you think about the accuracy of these algorithms if you can destroy so much of an infrastructure of Gaza, kill so many innocent people and still argue that Hamas have a stronghold in Gaza.

Somethings gone very clearly very very wrong. And the world has stood by and watched.

justanotherpassword · 17/09/2025 01:45

hkathy · 16/09/2025 20:30

Israel has engaged in the act of killing a group of people, causing intentional harm and suffering, displacing them, intentionally starving people, children.

60,000 people have been killed.

But this is what you’re focussed on.

The former head of the Israeli army is saying they’ve killed or injured more than 200,000 Palestinians. The numbers are horrific and people on this board still deny a genocide is taking place.

I’ve seen other stats which are even higher and closer to 800,000. The world has watched a live genocide take place over the last two years and all we keep hearing is what about the hostages and Hamas started it.

I am surprised they aren’t all over this thread denying the stats, saying that the UN has an ulterior motive and it’s all fake news. Nothing to see here folks.

mids2019 · 17/09/2025 06:32

They may still find the hostages....let's hope.