Israel has killed one child every hour

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‘On average since October 2023, Israel has killed one child every hour’- Save The Children.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/2025/gaza-20000-children-killed-23-months-war-more-one-child

We know that Hammas could have ended this by handing back the hostages. This is a complicated, 2000 year old war, and I think Gaza, being poor and of no value, is being used by the region as a sacrifice. Israel are over flexing out of fear, being surrounded by increasingly hostile nations. Israel won't exist in another decade, as their Muslim neighbours will use the genocide in Gaza as the excuse they have long wanted to flatten them. Edited to add that every child or innocent person killed is one too many.

Why aren't the neighbours doing something about it now?

How should I really know, I'm in my living room in the middle of England. My cynical conspiracy theory is that they don't want to, hence using Gaza as a sacrifice to reclaim the land that Israel sits on.

They'll do sweet FA. They give no shits at all. And after Oct 7th, I very much doubt any of them will want to FAFO like Hamas did.

Exactly. They’ve rounded DOWN. It’s actually worse than reported- so no sensationalising at all.

Here we go.

It’s not about the hostages- Israel doesn’t really want them back. Netanyahu doesn’t give a shit about the hostages.

November 2023 Hamas agreed to a ceasefire and released over 100 hostages and were planning to release more but then Israel broke the ceasefire bombing again.

February of 2024, where Hamas agreed to release the hostages in phases but then Israel rejected this because they then called for a permanent ceasefire.

Then on April 2024, Hamas agreed to another deal that was just like Israel’s but Israel rejected and US officials even reported that they were intentionally stalling.

Israel finally accepted a deal in January 2025 which did call of all the hostages but then Israel launched surprise attacks and broke their own deal.

So it looks like to me, that even though Israel says it’s about the hostages thats not what this is about. To justify genocide and stay in power. Even the families themselves say that Israel is just using the hostages as a political tool to extend the war. Whether or not that means the rest of the hostages die.

As long as the hostages exist inside Gaza, Israel can justify even more violence and destruxtion. They’re actually incentivised not to bring their hostages back because then Netanyahu would lose power. Release the hostages is not a good faith argument, it’s a classic Israeli talking point to shift the blame to Palestinians and ignore the fact that Israel has had plenty of chances to get their hostages back without committing genocide.

I’m so sick of this utter bullshitting out of posters on this forum. “eh, you’ll find that figure is 2% out!/10% out /17% out!
Anti-Semitic tropes!”

Over 18,000 children have been murdered. 18,000.
Is that not sensational enough?

Children blown apart, babies getting their 4-month old legs amputated with no anaesthetics. Children with complex needs being starved to death. I’ve seen so many children take their last breaths on filthy tile floors.

My heart is broken for them, and the good people of Israel living with disgusting depths the Israeli gov has sank to. Zero humanity. What a legacy.

There's no "here we go about it". It's completely tit for tat, and neither side give a damn about the innocents. As I said, it's a brutal, ugly play for territory. Israel wants Gazza, the neighbours want Isreal. The "expendable" Palestinians suffer.

ignoring the gross personal insult/slur of ‘Palestinian loons’…

Yes, October 7th was horrific- nobody is disputing that. But using that one-day atrocity to excuse 23 months of killing one child every hour is grotesque. If your best defence of Israel is “Hamas killed faster,” you’re basically admitting Israel is slaughtering children- just more slowly, and at a far larger total.

Framing this as a “tit for tat over land” is misleading. Israel already controls Gaza’s borders, airspace, and sea. What’s happening isn’t a simple fight over territory but the mass displacement, starvation, and killing of civilians. Nearly 20,000 children have been killed in under two years- that isn’t a land dispute, it’s atrocity-level violence. Israel has repeatedly broken ceasefires and rejected deals that would have brought them home. Even the hostage families accuse Netanyahu of using them as political pawns.

Nonsense. You make out that the deals Hamas agreed to were reasonable. Israel had legitimate reasons to reject them. The problem is you dont take Israel's security concerns seriously so you think they should accept any deal.

That’s almost as often as someone posts anti-Israel propaganda on Mumsnet! Incredible.

I do think it’s relevant to remind people that Yahyah Sinwar himself had been released in a previous hostage/prisoner exchange.

Fucking hell, the knee jerk defensiveness and lack of human compassion on this thread is quite something.
Kids killed as buildings are flattened, babies dying because formula milk isn’t allowed to be brought in, amputations on children without anaesthetic… and people are arguing that it’s ‘sensationalist’ to describe the scale of the deaths or hold Israel responsible for their actions.

Is it propaganda if it's true?. Must check that one out .

It's too depressing reading some of these responses
It's horrific, heartbreaking and beyond comprehension that babies in ICU were left to starve to death, that Palestinian children are actively snipered and jailed and that Israeli politicians openly call for the extermination of all Palestinians saying there are no innocents in Gaza.

But what I find most horrific is that, not only is that depravity not condemned, it is actively supported on Mumsnet by some who just scream 'but Hamas'
Where is your humanity or are you so racist that you simply don't see brown/ Muslim/ Christian children as human beings?

Indeed. And Many others. While there are some people, particularly young people, who should not be in detention the vast majority are people involved in anti Israel activity including convicted terrorists and murderers and at every deal a huge number are reased for every hostage. The hostages are entirely innocent and no deal should be required for their release. This pattern also happened before 7 October.

Where is your humanity or are you so racist that you simply don't see brown/ Muslim/ Christian children as human beings?

Do you think all Israelis are white or something?

Can you tell me, what has Hamas done to prevent the killing of children in Gaza? To protect its own people?

The deaths and suffering are a tragedy, of course they are, I don’t know how many times this has to be said.

If you take the view that Hamas is a terror group and therefore nothing can be expected from them, they have no responsibility for the territory and people they govern, and that Israel must protect not only her own people but the people bent on her destruction, then I don’t know what to say to you. I don’t - and I don’t think I’ve seen a single poster who does - support and justify all Israel’s actions in this war, of course not. I just hold Hamas responsible in a way that shocking numbers of people don’t.

Perfectly put. The low expectations of Palestinians also come from a position of racism.

About half are white. And global support is a question of racism.

Why are you asking people on this thread to answer for Hamas, like they support them?
Disagreeing with the IDFs murder of over 18,000 children does not equal “I support Hamas”.

Israeli Gov has not just defended Israel, it’s decimated most of Gaza and working on the West Bank. It’s committed war crimes. They joined Hamas as terrorists. And continues to do so with impunity. It’s utterly sickening reading comments in this thread.

Every child murdered during war is a tragedy. We should have empathy for all children, and as mothers we do. But 20 thousand is severely disproportionate to 38.

Noone would compare those two things unless they were engaging in the dehumanisation of Palestinian children.