Hamas discussing US 'ideas' for Gaza ceasefire after Trump's 'last warning'

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BBC article reporting that on Sunday evening, Hamas put out a statement saying it had "received through the mediators some ideas from the American side aimed at reaching a ceasefire agreement" and that it welcomed the initiative.

"The movement is in constant contact with the intermediaries to develop these ideas into a comprehensive agreement that meets the needs of our people," it added.

Earlier in the day, US President Donald Trump had written on Truth Social: "Everyone wants the Hostages HOME. Everyone wants this War to end! The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well."

"I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!"

A senior Palestinian official familiar with the ceasefire efforts told the BBC that under the US proposal, all of the hostages would be released within the first 48 hours of a 60-day truce in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, including those serving life sentences and other lengthy terms, and detainees from Gaza.

During the first two weeks of the truce, the negotiations would cover key issues, including Hamas's disarmament, the formation of an independent governing body or administrative committee in Gaza, and arrangements for Israeli troop withdrawals, the official said. Humanitarian aid would also flow openly into Gaza.

The framework appeared to be aimed at creating a pathway to a broader settlement while addressing immediate humanitarian and security concerns.

Israeli media quoted political sources as saying that Israel was "seriously considering" the US plan, but also that Hamas was likely to have difficulty accepting it.

On Monday, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar told a news conference in Budapest: "President Trump said it clearly yesterday, Israel said yes to his proposal. We are ready to accept a full deal that would end the war based on the cabinet's decision.

"Two things must happen. One, the return of our hostages… [Two], Hamas must lay down its arms."

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0rxl7jwwpo

Qatar have said a member of it's security forces have been killed.

They bombed Doha with the aim of killing Hamas members. What if any Qatari citizens were killed? Qatar certainly didn’t agree to the strike - they were facilitating ceasefire talks. It’s an escalation and I fear for Israeli citizens who didn’t ask for this but may pay for it.

I do, hence why piling on more hate is an odd tactic. Doing the same and expecting different results is the opposite of clever.

That’s very sad to hear. I fear for what happens next.

The Japanese were defeated by to use your words 'mass murder' when 2 atomic bombs were dropped. That never generated terrorists, yet they lost so much. They CHOSE peace and prosperity and achieved both.

Germany lost an estimated 6.6 to 8.8 million people in WW2. They also CHOSE peace and prosperity and achieved it. Again it didn't generate terrorists.

Why do people assume Palestinian people can only choose terrorism as its response. Why do people expect less of them and their future choices than the Japanese or the Germans? They could choose peace and prosperity. A better future for all, rather than endless hatred.

Its a violation of the sovereignty of another country. Apparently Trump knew it would occur, according to the news tonight. Hamas leader targeted by precision strike. Trump issued a final warning to Hamas yesterday

@TreesTreesBeesBees ’Its a violation of the sovereignty of another country.’

Not If that sovereign country knew about it.
The people killed were terrorists, the Qataris will make all the right noises while being complicit in this act of retribution.

Thanks for clarification. Maybe the Qatar government were aware?

Harbouring terrorists might put anyone at risk.

Just as a point of order on those flightradar screen snapshots - we have no idea what the KC-46 was refuelling and the RAF Voyager certainly wasn't refuelling Israeli assets.

There are on-going operations in that part of the world anyway and if the UK/USA had notice of whatever Israel was up to a decision might have been made to get aircraft airborne, out of harms way...

Disingenuous at its best. The world has never forgiven the US for testing its bombs on real people. Japan was a feudal society already crushed - the bombs hastened the end, but it would have come within months anyway.

Funny though that you chose WW2 and Germany. The seeds of WW2 were the crushing defeat of WW1. It generated another war!

I note you conveniently ignored Ireland as a comparison despite that being the one I raised. And far more comparable. The roots of this conflict (also majorly caused by the British government) is not a war in the sense of world wars. It is an attrition. If Israel want hundreds of years of war, as the British had in Ireland, then they are going about it in the right way. Try to destroy a people and you will lose. FGS the Jewish people know that as well!

I an proud to have close Israeli friends. This is so not in their name. They sent their two children to the UK to avoid being called up again despite them serving in the first one. What Hamas did on 7th October was a crime. Taking and holding the hostages was a crime. A proportionate response was understandable if not "a finest hour". This is not a proportionate response. It is mass murder. As was the dropping of nuclear weapons on CIVILIANS!

I don't expect to convince you. Polarised politics are comfortable. But until we can see BOTH sides we will never move forward. Ireland is still a complex issue. But it moved forwards because people decided that talk was better than bombs.

Hopefully Israelies and Gazans will decide peace when Hamas are gone. Better for both.

I chose examples where lots of people were killed in conflicts that didn't go on to become terrorists to show its possible since lots of people say 'the children will become terrorists'. That was the reasoning, its not always a bad ending and some chose peace and prosperity. The son of a Hamas leader is one of Hamas greatest critics. We need more like him, turning their backs on hatred and terrorism.

I hope you are right. I know you are wrong.

I hope I'm right and peace is chosen. I cannot imagine too many people want ongoing hatred and conflict.

Wrong? Didn't Germany and Japan choose peace. Those examples show peace can be achieved after a war. Not always, but sometimes.

According to The Independent, Hamas say that 5 members of Hamas and a member of Qatar’s internal security forces staff were killed when Israel carried out the airstrike in Doha.

The designated terrorist organisation said all its leaders survived the attack but that five lower-ranked members were killed, including Hammam Al-Hayya, the son of senior Hamas figure Dr Khalil Al-Hayya.

Qatar’s interior ministry separately said that Corporal Bader Saad Mohammed Al-Humaidi Al-Dosari, a member of the internal security forces, was killed.
Hamas's exiled leadership has long been based in Qatar, which has served as a mediator in talks between Hamas and Israel, even before the latest war in the Gaza Strip.

A strike on its leadership could further complicate negotiations over a ceasefire and the release of hostages taken in Hamas' 7 October 2023 attack.

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said: “Today’s action against the top terrorist chieftains of Hamas was a wholly independent Israeli operation. Israel initiated it, Israel conducted it, and Israel takes full responsibility.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/qatar-explosion-israel-airstrike-hamas-doha-latest-news-b2823119.html

You aren't listening. I didn't think you would. You want peace on your terms. Peace at the end of a bomb. Naive views of world politics are cute. You clearly haven't spent any time in Japan. Or Germany. But ignore the lessons of Ireland at THEIR peril. I don't have to live with it. But neither do you.

According to Reuters however, Israel is still gathering information on the strikes and is yet to determine if any Hamas leaders were killed.

@SirHumphreyRocks ’The world has never forgiven the US for testing its bombs on real people. Japan was a feudal society already crushed - the bombs hastened the end, but it would have come within months anyway.’

I’ve never heard any condemnation of the atomic bombs. Certainly ‘the world has never forgiven’ is stretching it.
The war was shortened, and thousands of American soldiers lives were saved. The Allies were applauded for their actions. Rightly so.

The Israelis have long, long memories. They will continue until every member of Hamas is dead. It will take many years. There will be no forgiveness.

We'll never know, as the UK or America admitting involvement would be admitting to violating International Law. The IDF could have launched long range missiles

There would be no need to get aircraft in the air as they were not at harm as Qatar is on the American empire side of the ledger, some may say to the point of complicity.

The Qatari foreign secretary told Tucker Carlson in an interview the Hamas office in Doha was only opened after the Obama administration specifically requested that Qatar do so and with full American cooperation and co-ordination.

Obviously someone knew as the Hamas leaders were able to vacate.

I disagree with you, you disagree with me. That's ok.

I've spent time in Germany. I intend to visit Japan, several friends recommended after their travels. I will visit the memorials and understand why they wish no one to hold nuclear weapons. I cannot imagine that will be achieved in the near future. I'm pleased both countries have peace after great losses in wartime.

I've also visited Ireland and visited many sites of injustice in the past. The Good Friday agreement was indeed ground breaking.

We all live with the consequences of hatred continuing. We all benefit from peace.

I would be happy to hear that Hamas leaders living the high life in Doha while their people suffer the consequences of the war they started on 7/10 got killed.

They are the most despicable of all, living lives of luxury, in no hurry to end the war because they think they are safe in Doha or other countries.

Indeed. Both of those countries are now in extended periods of peace time.

I’ve never heard any condemnation of the atomic bombs

You haven't been listening then.

But I didn't expect anything other than more warmongering here. And didn't get it. The lessons of the past are unlearned. Such is the human state. Fight on until you are all dead, and take everyone else with you. There is nothing to be gained in arguing against war when it is seen to be the answer.

This is what I don’t understand.. there will always be a son, nephew, grandson.. I can’t see how it’s possible to end this.

Interesting article looks at the fairytale and simplistic thinking assuming this conflict could be solved like Northern Ireland.

"On the False Parallel Between Gaza and Northern Ireland"

Here

http://www.thetower.org/article/on-the-false-parallel-between-gaza-and-northern-ireland/