Hamas discussing US 'ideas' for Gaza ceasefire after Trump's 'last warning'

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BBC article reporting that on Sunday evening, Hamas put out a statement saying it had "received through the mediators some ideas from the American side aimed at reaching a ceasefire agreement" and that it welcomed the initiative.

"The movement is in constant contact with the intermediaries to develop these ideas into a comprehensive agreement that meets the needs of our people," it added.

Earlier in the day, US President Donald Trump had written on Truth Social: "Everyone wants the Hostages HOME. Everyone wants this War to end! The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well."

"I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!"

A senior Palestinian official familiar with the ceasefire efforts told the BBC that under the US proposal, all of the hostages would be released within the first 48 hours of a 60-day truce in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, including those serving life sentences and other lengthy terms, and detainees from Gaza.

During the first two weeks of the truce, the negotiations would cover key issues, including Hamas's disarmament, the formation of an independent governing body or administrative committee in Gaza, and arrangements for Israeli troop withdrawals, the official said. Humanitarian aid would also flow openly into Gaza.

The framework appeared to be aimed at creating a pathway to a broader settlement while addressing immediate humanitarian and security concerns.

Israeli media quoted political sources as saying that Israel was "seriously considering" the US plan, but also that Hamas was likely to have difficulty accepting it.

On Monday, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar told a news conference in Budapest: "President Trump said it clearly yesterday, Israel said yes to his proposal. We are ready to accept a full deal that would end the war based on the cabinet's decision.

"Two things must happen. One, the return of our hostages… [Two], Hamas must lay down its arms."

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0rxl7jwwpo

No chance Hamas will agree to that, regardless of their otherwise posturing.

I hope this agreement works. Hostages home. Hamas disbanded

Probably delusional of me to hope terrorists might lay down arms for the people, the children, their wives and family.

I fear the Doha bombing might mean this doesn’t happen. I’m not looking to start an Israel pile on but bombing negotiations in Doha seems really rogue if they were pushing for some sort of agreement. And for their relationship with Qatar more broadly.

It's Netanyahu's signature act. Whenever there is a possibility of a ceasefire, he does whatever he can to sabotage it.

Yes - but it’s so inflammatory. I understand the want to target Hamas and to throw off ceasefire negotiations but this seems like an unbelievably dangerous move in terms of increasing the threat to Israel.

Netanyahu really doesn't care. Whatever will prolong the war and keep him in power - he will do.

The hostages families must be fuming right now.

Ah, so that's why he didn't orchestrate instant genocide, because he wanted to prolong the war. Refreshing to see final acknowledgement of a war taking place.

I cannot even imagine. After the video of the two men last week and now this. Just horrendous.

Sadly I don’t think he’s gives a shit about the hostages or their families, he only cares about himself.

Couldn't agree more. He prefers bloodshed over peace.

Genocide doesn’t have to happen in a day. In fact, it would be stupid to do it that way because you’d lose all respect on the international stage. Pretty sure with would tank you economy and destroy your reputation. If you’re smart, you quickly tone down the genocidal rhetoric (esp after a genocide case is brought against you) and you do just enough to make intent a challenge to prove. You still starve people, militarise aid, wipe out most of the infrastructure in Gaza so people have no homes/hospitals/safety. It’s not nuking Gaza as one Israeli politician suggested but it isn’t showing any humanity to innocent people. Hence why the ICJ spelled out that Israel need to feed Gazans and do more to ensure their safety.

And even if this isn’t found to be genocide legally, is what’s going on okay in your eyes? If the use of the word genocide upsets you, fine. But it shouldn’t upset you more than what’s happening in Gaza. Would ethnic cleansing be a less triggering word? Or crimes against humanity? Or war crimes?

Well said!

TBH it is also difficult to think he cares about "ending Hamas" either. I absolutely do not support Hamas in any shape or form - and not do I support the Israeli government in their actions. But this I know. You never defeat anyone with mass murder. You do not build peace, tolerance or mutual understanding by annihilation. Either Netanyahu is an idiot (and much as I despise him, I don't think he is) or he is deliberately taking a line of action that will ensure Hamas' continuation for generations into the future.

And if any government in the world should know that in its bones, that is the government of the "United Kingdom". One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and whatever name they go under in the future, there are children in Gaza and the occupied territories who have been handed a reason to hate and a cause to fight for.

And, terrifying though the prospect is, that assumes that Israel survives the war it appears to be intent on trying to start with its Arab neighbours. Israel is doing more than any Arab nation to bring common cause to Arab states that have never seen eye to eye on very much.

That's how it's all being played out, as far as pro Pals are concerned. There is a flip side to that coin. Israel would never have had the support if they had flattened and annihilated Gaza, anyway. It's been a no win situation for Netanyahu. I presume that's why he's proceeded as he has. At best, he's protecting his state. At worst he's prolonging the hostages' plight.

I’m confused: they are flattening Gaza - just not with nukes.

How is he protecting Israel by bombing Doha? Or decreasing the risk of further terrorist attacks by dehumanising the people in Gaza and making recruiting for Hamas easy?

BN couldn’t win because he’s beholden to right wing extremists in his government. They are leading with hate and that can only create more hate.

I don't think you understand the level of hate that's already in existence.

I agree that the latest move today in Doha seems to be very provocative. I was stunned to see it on the news. How that is protecting the hostages or the people of Israel is beyond me. It’s one thing to strike Hamas in Gaza but to fire at Qatar - bonkers.

And it is so frustrating that people keep saying that BN is just trying to wipe out Hamas. They’re a terrorist organisation - they don’t have borders. They will sadly have members in multiple countries across the world. Flattening Gaza only strengthens their resolve to destroy Israel. In that sense, Israel can’t win because they will sadly always face this threat. But they are not helping to stop the cycle of radicalisation in Gaza by destroying families/homes etc

The usual caveat - I don’t support anything Hamas does or believes. What they did on 7/10 was horrific. But I do agree that the violence and hatred both Hamas have shown and Israel have shown in this conflict is not going to somehow create peace. BN is not only hurting innocent Palestinians but putting innocent Israelis at risk of more terror in the coming years.

Absolutely, as confirmed by former Biden Spox Matthew Miller:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-official-netanyahu-sabotaged-deals-but-calling-him-out-wouldve-helped-hamas/

All done with the full acquiescence, assistance and knowledge of "Daddy" Trump. Remember bombing Iran during Nuclear negotiations in June this year. Both are clearly sending out a message that negotiation is futile and useless.

I hope Americans understand that Trump's actions are putting them at risk and he is singlehandedly destroying their futures.

I’m interested to hear whether Trump did actually okay it. It seems odd when he’s desperate to end the war and claim all the glory.

...And meanwhile Mumsnet is apparently being treated to a glitzy reception in Downing Street shortly.. in the same week and in the same building where Starmer is set to be entertaining Israel's genocide-supporting president. I hope some of you at the Mumsnet 'do' take it upon yourselves to challenge any ministers present about the way Israel - aided and abetted by the UK - deliberately targets and kills Palestinian children. I doubt the equivalent of Mumsnet in Gaza are discussing breastfeeding tips and schools at the moment.

Absolutely he did, the Israeli jets would need to be refuelled to reach Qatar.

In previous Israeli air attacks (Iran, Yemen) America and the UK have assisted with this.

As terrible as Netanyahu is, he is not stupid, he will ensure to entangle his allies as leverage, so if goes down they all go down.

The "nerds" that track air traffic noted increased activity before and after the strike.

Saudi television network Al-Arabiya reported that Hamas leader Khalil al-Hayya was eliminated in an attack in Doha. According to Palestinians, Khaled Mashal, Muhammad Darwish, Razi Hamad and Izzat al-Rishq were also present at the location.

The Israelis have not ‘bombed Doha’. They have bombed a very specific location in Doha where the Hamas terrorists were having a meeting.
Why weren’t they in Gaza with their people?

I saw it was khalil Al Hayya's son. 5 people killed but none of them the leaders that were targeted. I think its too early to know for sure.

Interesting - this I didn’t know. Thanks for the info.