IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

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It is so sickening that they continue to act with such impunity. The bombed the hospital killing four journalists and THEN struck a second time killing the rescue workers who were trying to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured.

The genocide continues in plain sight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

Don’t try and normalise what Israel is doing here. This is not about the IDF lying about an incident. This is yet another case that seems to confirm that civilians are being targeted. So the Israeli government are lying about what they are actually doing in Gaza and that’s an entirely different thing to individuals in the IDF lying. They say they are fighting to destroy Hamas but it seems to be the case that they are trying to destroy the Palestinians themselves.

https://news.sky.com/story/un-told-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital-was-premeditated-as-sky-news-uncovers-new-details-about-the-attack-13418777

Evidence seems to be pointing to the 'camera' being one used to livestream by Reuters. Of the 6 individuals named as militants, 5 Sky couldn't find evidence of terrorist/militant/Hamas involvement, and the 6th, who did have connections to Hamas or similar, was killed the day before, not in this strike.

And people wonder why the IDF are considered unreliable with the truth...

So, the victims of this horrific attack were innocent after all. Surprise, surprise. Shame on all of those here who bend over backwards to justify their murder.

During campaigns of genocide and ethnic cleansing, disinformation is a potent weapon—a tool to dehumanize victims, justify mass violence, and most importantly, sow seeds of doubt designed to muzzle calls for intervention. When information is weaponized, confusion and doubt no longer emerge from the “fog of war” as a symptom, but are purposefully cultivated with the explicit intention of creating it.
At the time of writing, Israeli forces have killed over 30,000 Palestinians across Gaza and the West Bank since October 2023. They have targeted hospitals, schools, and civilians fleeing their homes. Israel’s assault is marked not only by the historic scale of violence being inflicted upon Palestinians, but by the unprecedented flood of disinformation being deployed to justify it.”
from the attached article a very inciteful read into the type of disinformation being spread on this site
www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/hasbara-a-long-running-strategy/

Even insightful

Excellent journalism by sky news. I hope the posters insisting the contrary and believing IDF lies will read this.

The IDF lie and lie and lie and lie.

I can already predict some replies continuing to defend the psycho murdering IDF, rather than admit that once again they were guillable enough to fall for the IDF lies.

The "truth" hasn't been proven either way.

You have just presented an alternative version from Sky news and are assuming that to be the truth because it's what you want to believe. How would Sky news know who is Hamas and who isn't?

Why should Sky news know more than the IDF? Especially since international journalists aren't even allowed into Gaza.

Did you even read the article?

There is none so blind as those who refuse to see.

One person from the 6 people the IDF listed as those killed from the strike was a combatant who was killed the day before elsewhere in Gaza.

The camera that the IDF called a 'Hamas camera' and used to justify the initial strike was the camera of the reuters journalists that was killed.

Evidence?

If i remember correctly Sky news journalists were also one of the first to uncover IDF lies when they murdered the medics and buried them and their ambulances.

Read the article and see for yourself. And perhaps you need to update that other thread you started.

Or are you going to continue presenting the IDF lies as facts on there? I don't think thats very honest or genuine. The least you should do is show the new evidence and admit you were maybe wrong and believing the IDF so readily.

So you accept there is no evidence re the camera or re the 6 Hamas militants getting killed.

You are choosing to believe Sky which is fair but then don't make such a drama out of other people choosing to believe different sources like the IDF.

Most of us are in the UK - we do not know the truth, we are choosing who to believe as what seems most plausible to us.

There is evidence that the camera on the balcony was the reuters journalists camera. What are you talking about? It's in the article which is why I am telling you to read it.

Ok, you carry on believing the IDF and Israeli channel 12 who are proven liars 👍

"In the article" is not evidence. It's what Reuters are saying but the IDF are saying the camera was used by Hamas militants. How do we know if the camera was used by Hamas militants or not? We don't.

Oh for goodness sakes. The camera was live streaming when it was blown up!

There's no point arguing with this level of denial.

Wow @Twiglets1 really have to admire your stamina in trying to defend the indefensible, a double tap strike on a hospital is beyond defence.
Most news sources would be seen currently as more reliable than the idf, Israel has a decades long history of smearing the dead, and deliberately confusing the narrative around events for just long enough until they drop out of the news cycle, would you like me to list all the examples?
I am not sure if you and others on here are unwittingly or knowingly spreading Israeli misinformation to justify war crimes, and smear dead Palestinians either way not a good look

That doesn't prove that it was not used from time to time by Hamas militants as per the intelligence received by the IDF.

Why would they target the camera if they didn't believe it was used for surveillance purposes by Hamas operatives? It's possible that their intelligence was wrong of course, but that's a different issue.

When Sky news presented the evidence to the IDF they didnt even deny it or try and prove why it was wrong. Some people on mumsnet are working much harder than the IDF here.

Because they messed up. Why do you think Netanyahu called it a 'tragic mishap' after he found out Trump wasn't happy. And the IDF didnt comment on it for a few hours and then made a feeble excuse of a camera and we are going to look into it.