A famine has been declared in Gaza city

[SaltAirAndTheRust]

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481

Meanwhile, up to 80,000 troops are being prepared to start an offensive there. There are no longer any words

Israel’s “denials are in direct contradiction to what more than 100 humanitarian groups, witnesses on the ground, multiple UN bodies, and several of Israel's allies, including the UK, have said.”

BBC this evening.

@Dangermoo you can never just help yourself can you
Slow day at work???

Tut tut

All 100 groups will soon be labelled Hamas.

Are you serious? Where do you get your information from? Do you believe all the Hamas propaganda they spout? Do you realise the leaders of Hamas are multi millionaires, many of whom live in Qatar, who actively want the suffering and death of their people. Do you know they have a vast underground network of tunnels where Hamas military can hide but they don’t allow civilians down there when there are bombs because they are happy for them to get killed as it strengthens the case against Israel. More Palestinian deaths = more people like you who hate Israel because you’re uneducated on the situation.

What stops Israel to actually help the Palestinian civilians?
I mean if they help them with food, water and even land they would be less likely to support Hamas.... if they could just go along with their everyday business as they have done for 100's of years without being threatened by Israeli settlers and the IDF then there wouldn't be the need for Hamas.
But that would not give Israel what they want, would it? Cue: Water.

You’re missing my point
Mids stated Gaza/ Hamas should surrender

I was pointing out how ridiculous that comment is
that all countries that are invaded should then just be expected to surrender.
I also noted the very far right nature of thst attitude

I wasn’t condoning mids point fgs

Im a regular pro Palestinian poster

No they were not dismissed. But the manipulation of some children's situation was misinformation and obvious propaganda.

My complete apologies! I got my wires crossed and thought you were pro Israel!

I don't hate Israel . They have a complete right to exist.

I absolutely hate the actions of the current Israeli leadership bringing famine and death to 2 million people.

I hate Hamas too for what they are doing but let's be real here. We all have responsibility for our own actions and Israel is responsible for theirs.

Actually the genocide against the Jews was committed by sending 6 million of them to extermination camps. Not exactly what Israel is doing is it?

I have asked for my post to be withdrawn @DrPrunesqualer, I apologise again x

Do you think that the genocide of 11 million people started with the concentration camps?

What about Israelis who are opposed to their government's actions and protesting about it - do they 'hate Israel'?

Why is Israel held to a higher standard than other countries? It is at war. That means people die.

If thousands of British people were killed by terrorists, would we fight back or do nothing?

you say you agree Israel has a right to defend itself. That is what it’s doing but you’re saying they’re wrong? So which is it?

A better comparison is the plight of the Armenian People at the end of WW1.
There are quite a few similarities between what the turks did and what Israel is doing....

Let us not forget that Israel was founded in 1948 by robbing the Palestinians of their land.

I’d say that every country is held to higher standards than Israel. Compare the number of civilian casualties in Ukraine to Gaza.

The war has dragged on too long. They want it to end, we all do. There are always people who oppose war, including Israelis.

I’m not saying the Israeli government is faultless, but this war is down to Hamas terrorists and if you want it to end, pressure should be on them to surrender, not Israel

I’m going to add to your list if I may Marty

I hate all people who support the actions in Gaza by the Israeli Government against the Palestinian people
I hate all people who deny those actions against the Palestinian people

Did the Jews in 1930s Germany/Europe kidnap, murder and rape thousands of people? No

This could end tomorrow... release the hostages and hamas surrender.

So no...it is not in the least bit comparable.

So I’m guessing by your complete refusal to answer to facts, you believe that the holocaust began with the camps and that there was no fighting before 7/10.

Did the Palestinian people?

I would actually ask why is Israel allowed to behave in a way other countries aren't. Russia has been widely sanctioned and condemned. Israel has the unconditional support of the USA and has been told there are no red lines (Biden) and been given a carte Blanche by Trump.

Israel have still been allowed to take part in all international competitions.

The EU have have issues no sanctions despite a report saying they have breached human rights.

Defending yourself and killing at least 60,000 people and starving 2 million is not the same thing