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SparklingRivers · 22/08/2025 17:14

MummytoE · 22/08/2025 16:24

Or people who can't understand that starvation affects kids quicker than adults..." But why do the parents look well fed when the kids are dying".... . People will tell themselves anything to avoid admitting the truth

And dismissing the fact that children with health conditions are as important as other children. A lot of the severe pictures earlier on were children unable to get medical treatment, this was often documented accurately in mainstream reports as "malnutrition and multiple medical conditions", yet was then dismissed as if starving because of lack of treatment for a medical condition made it OK.

MummytoE · 22/08/2025 17:15

There is a movement called " global strike for Gaza" which asks participants to not spend any money on Thursdays. Who knows if it will help but I think the aim is that if so many people do it will make governments take notice.

PinkBobby · 22/08/2025 17:35

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.”

If there isn’t a clear systemic issue with Hamas stealing a lot of aid (which would enable them to control food to the point of engineering a famine), who else is possibly to blame?

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 17:55

Mercurial123 · 22/08/2025 16:00

I'm waiting for the comments "but it's the UN declaring the famine so it doesn't count because they don't like Isreal".

Agree and then X posts from several years ago of obese people in Gaza

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 17:57

MummytoE · 22/08/2025 17:15

There is a movement called " global strike for Gaza" which asks participants to not spend any money on Thursdays. Who knows if it will help but I think the aim is that if so many people do it will make governments take notice.

Along with not buying Israeli products on any day of the week

Glitchymn1 · 22/08/2025 17:59

I heard on the radio, mothers watching their children die. I think our time here is coming to an end, we are an unpleasant, self serving species. Disgusting and complicit, shameful and embarrassing.

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 17:59

zerofeeling · 22/08/2025 16:20

They can say what they like, the tipping point for accepting excuses and lies in defence of Israeli actions has long passed.

It really hasn’t for a lot of pro Israeli posters on here

Dangermoo · 22/08/2025 18:03

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I do actually and one that doesn't have to resort to personal attacks.

zerofeeling · 22/08/2025 18:04

Dangermoo · 22/08/2025 16:30

Not everybody has to agree with your stance on the conflict. I don't take any of it at face value. I certainly don't believe the famine is man made by Israel - alone. In order to do that, they would need to be seeking that end result. Sounds familiar.

Of course they're seeking that end result. Like I said, we're long past this kind of dishonest framing.

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 18:06

MummytoE · 22/08/2025 16:34

Genuinely don't know how people who deny this famine and Israel's deliberate starvation of Palestine sleep at night. Only they need to live with that I suppose

Is it Islamophobia or just blind hate?
I’m thinking both
I’m so constantly shocked by this hate that I just don’t understand how people can live with themselves

On a different note because I really can’t be bothered thinking or dwelling on these individual's…
Will this UN declaration of Famine now give anyone more power to deal with supporting the people of Palestine

How, in essence, can this declaration help! ?

Dangermoo · 22/08/2025 18:06

zerofeeling · 22/08/2025 18:04

Of course they're seeking that end result. Like I said, we're long past this kind of dishonest framing.

Not in my eyes, they aren't. As I keep saying, there are two sides in this war - one is Israel and the other is very devious. Framing what - your truth?

Martymcfly24 · 22/08/2025 18:06

I'm just watching the images on the news here and my first thought is these people are meant to now evacuate Gaza City for the South. How will they have the energy to do this journey because I presume most will be walking carrying their children or supporting old people. So it's stay and die in airstrikes or die on the road.

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:09

Dangermoo · 22/08/2025 18:06

Not in my eyes, they aren't. As I keep saying, there are two sides in this war - one is Israel and the other is very devious. Framing what - your truth?

(Copied straight from @Wornout82)

"I have organized plans. We stop aid and don't let anything into Gaza. If our kidnapped people don't eat, then they (the Palestinians) shouldn't eat anything either... We must occupy the entire Strip. This is our land, and they must pay for what they have done by losing land and by encouraging emigration.” National Security Minister Ben-Gvir, July 2025

“All Gaza will be Jewish” Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu

“Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger, even though it might be justified and moral, until our hostages are returned.” Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, August 2024

how do you explain this, @Dangermoo? These are statements from the Israeli regime which state they are happy to let two million people starve.

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SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:09

PinkBobby · 22/08/2025 17:35

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.”

If there isn’t a clear systemic issue with Hamas stealing a lot of aid (which would enable them to control food to the point of engineering a famine), who else is possibly to blame?

Also @Dangermoothere is no evidence of Hamas stealing aid from the UN. How do you explain it?

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mids2019 · 22/08/2025 18:10

Can't Hamas just surrender and end it all? Simples.

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 18:11

Wornout82 · 22/08/2025 17:09

"I have organized plans. We stop aid and don't let anything into Gaza. If our kidnapped people don't eat, then they (the Palestinians) shouldn't eat anything either... We must occupy the entire Strip. This is our land, and they must pay for what they have done by losing land and by encouraging emigration.” National Security Minister Ben-Gvir, July 2025

“All Gaza will be Jewish” Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu

“Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger, even though it might be justified and moral, until our hostages are returned.” Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, August 2024

Thanks for posting that

What disgusting people they truly are

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:13

mids2019 · 22/08/2025 18:10

Can't Hamas just surrender and end it all? Simples.

Seeing as this didn’t begin on October 7, why would it end then?

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Montysmoon · 22/08/2025 18:15

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 16:42

I don’t know how people look at it and deny that it’s a genocide. I really dont

Because if Israel wanted to commit genocide they could kill every Palestine tomorrow. Please use your brain. Hamas is stealing food and aid from their own people because they don’t give a flying f* about them.

This is a terribly sad situation but please educate yourself on who is to blame for this war.

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:15

Montysmoon · 22/08/2025 18:15

Because if Israel wanted to commit genocide they could kill every Palestine tomorrow. Please use your brain. Hamas is stealing food and aid from their own people because they don’t give a flying f* about them.

This is a terribly sad situation but please educate yourself on who is to blame for this war.

Hamas are not stealing aid. This has been proven.

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ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 22/08/2025 18:16

It’s actually how Genocides take place.

Same tactic was used against the Jews.

They were dehumanised, othered, and look what happened?

Martymcfly24 · 22/08/2025 18:16

Montysmoon · 22/08/2025 18:15

Because if Israel wanted to commit genocide they could kill every Palestine tomorrow. Please use your brain. Hamas is stealing food and aid from their own people because they don’t give a flying f* about them.

This is a terribly sad situation but please educate yourself on who is to blame for this war.

And what is Israel's part in the situation so?

Montysmoon · 22/08/2025 18:17

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 17:57

Along with not buying Israeli products on any day of the week

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Hopefully you’re not typing on an iPhone as that’s using Israeli technology. If you really care and all that…

DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 18:18

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:13

Seeing as this didn’t begin on October 7, why would it end then?

Perhaps better still countries all invade Israel
Then we can all be on here telling them to surrender!

Should Ukraine surrender. In fact as soon as any country is invaded by another they should just surrender.

That all makes great political sense to the Far Right of course but certainly not the rest of the world !

SaltAirAndTheRust · 22/08/2025 18:19

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DrPrunesqualer · 22/08/2025 18:20

Montysmoon · 22/08/2025 18:17

Hopefully you’re not typing on an iPhone as that’s using Israeli technology. If you really care and all that…

Heard that one before.

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