UEFA have finally taken a stand

[LifeOfAShowGirl]

https://x.com/uefa/status/1955706670824235327?s=46

A mild, late, spineless stand. But a stand. It makes me wonder how much longer this can go on before governments realise people are fed up of this.

I don’t think they even care at this point. It’s just delving deeper and deeper into conspiracies about why it’s actually a targeted comment because it was Tottenham and PSG.

i again find it entertaining that they’re now so against this sort of thing that they think condemning Russia is wrong, but if the banner had the word hostage on it, it would have been fine!

It doesn't matter that FIFA isn't UEFA. They represent the huge operation of international football. What's worse, is that FIFA insisted politics should be kept out of football, at the 2022 Qatar World Cup - oh, how very convenient. You know, the place where thousands of migrants had died building the football stadium. Where was their banner? Money talks and that very much includes Salah. There's as much double standards going on, in support of Palestine, as there is in football.

Your points don’t even make sense anymore.

FIFA were wrong to hold the World Cup in Qatar. Just as they’re wrong to be holding it in America in 2026.

That doesn’t change the fact you’re against a banner calling for the killing of civilians and children to stop.

No, because you've deduced incorrectly. I've explained why I am against the transmission of the message.

Because of a weak point about FIFA (not UEFA), and because you think politics should be kept out of football. When football is an inherently political sport.

I don’t understand. Why would someone be against a banner calling for the killing of civilians and children to stop?

Rejecting a banner that calls for the protection of children and civilians isn’t a political stance- it’s a rejection of basic humanity. There’s no defensible reason for that.

Asking for children and civilians to be spared isn’t taking sides. Opposing it is.

Says it all really.

Support for Ukraine was less divisive because almost everyone in the West agrees that Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine.

Israel didn’t invade Gaza though?

Israel was the side that got attacked so they are victims too. Hence it’s controversial for organisations to show explicit support for one side or the other (& the reason why Wes Streeting has made it a policy that NHS staff shouldn’t wear their uniforms on marches about the Gaza war).

Seems to me football is political when it wants to be and in other cases doesn’t care about human rights, racism etc as long as big money is involved.

How many more times does this need to be explained? Emotional manipulation doesn't work on all of us. That doesn't mean we don't feel something - it's just that we are not prepared to take things at face value, especially when such acts are nothing but one sided propaganda.

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How on earth people can see this and say that this is about the hostages, I do not know. Even the families of hostages are now protesting their government because they know they don’t want the release of the hostages to happen.

Emotional manipulation is childishly easy to spot. Some on here may be victims of it but some are cynically using it as a technique themselves.

Reducing the systematic killing and starvation of tens of thousands of children to “emotional manipulation” says it all really. An absolute refusal to confront the reality of what’s happening.

Muslim brotherhood? Now if I’d made a comment like that about Jewish people I’d be called anti semetic before I could blink.

I was going to say this but couldn’t be bothered for the backlash. But yes, a lot of the conversation seems to stray into this sort of territory

Not all families of hostages are - some are solidly behind government policy. You can’t just cherry pick the ones you want. They are a diverse group with diverse opinions.

I agree. I also don't believe any adults can be as woefully naive, when it comes to discussing how terrorists and their benefactors, operate. Then again, seeing the amount of support Palestine Action Group is getting, explains a lot.

Thank goodness none of us will ever have to spend nigh on two years, being imprisoned in a tunnel, being forced to dig our own grave. I suppose it's easy to be blasé about the hostages' plight and talk about it being boring or insignificant, when you aren't in their shoes.

That just goes to show that both you and the other poster aren't equipped with the wider facts. It isn't a racist term. I did predict, however, that it would be called as such. Embarrassing.

It’s not manipulation when these are documented, verifiable human tragedies- it’s reality. And cynicism doesn’t make the suffering any less real.

It also highlights how some people conflate humanitarian outrage with political agendas, rather than seeing the real, documented suffering on the ground.

Do you really think 18,000+ children needed to be killed? Do you think nearly 2 million civilians need to be starved?

Palestine Action - the pensioner Intifada.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very naive I think. But some are way more cynical than us and they are the ones using emotive language relentlessly.

So you don't know about its inception and continuing practice - you automatically assume its a racist term. My goodness.

Do you think we don’t see through you? We do.

Another poster mentioned something once, about a theory regarding some Pro Pal posters' motives. Food for thought.

See through what? A genuine concern for ALL civilians and hostages?

I don’t believe Israeli people should be living in fear of being bombed by multiple countries because their government is intent on attacking them. I don’t believe the hostages should have been taken.

I also don’t believe that a genocide should be enacted in Palestine. It’s that simple.

Pensioner intifada! 😆 🤣