France suspends evacuation of all Gazans

[HellsBalls]

After social media posts by ‘refugee’ of ‘death to all Jews’ and Nazi support.

Quelle surprise.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/08/01/france-suspends-gaza-evacuations-over-antisemitic-posts-by-palestinian-student

France realizes what Egypt, Jordan etc already know.

I'm not clear where you think there has been overreaction..

You're right that no screening is going to work 100% but based on the evidence that student simply had to go and the French government can't really afford risking a repeat with another guest from Gaza...

It's a classic example of the bigger picture, not being looked at. It is a common theme, in this conflict.

Just caught an update on this and it looks like the offending posts were made before the student arrived in France, were then deleted, but subsequently discovered by??

I suspect that's why questions about the screening process have been raised..

Link to English language update:

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20250804-gaza-student-leaves-france-over-antisemitic-posts-row

Blimey!

Meanwhile, in the real world, the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (ICCT), an independent think-tank based in The Hague, sounded a note of extreme caution amid growing concern that 7 Oct could be just the start of a broader operation:

...the activities between Israel and Hamas, which are also impacting both Israeli and Palestinian civilians, could spur violence outside of the region. This is particularly acute as Hamas’ former chief recently called for mobilization of citizens in countries in the region, and stated “To all scholars who teach jihad… to all who teach and learn, this is a moment for the application (of theories).”

The ICCT article makes this comment about the Arras school stabbings on 13 Oct 2023, which were prompted by Hamas calling for a "global day of protest":

There is ... concern about a large number of radicalized persons in France who have not been sufficiently addressed, and the lull of attacks since the fall of ISIS so-called caliphate has perhaps given France a false sense of security vis-à-vis Islamist terrorism. While the 13 October attacker appears to have reacted independently of this call to jihad, there are many individuals considered at risk who may not differentiate between the underlying ideologies of unique organisations. Hamas and ISIS are both part of the militant jihadi movement, but their ideological or organizational differences distinguish them. However, to an individual that engaged in the militant Salafi-jihadi movement during the 2014-2019 period, a period in which ideological differences were not always clear to engaged individuals, a call to jihad may transcend organisational affiliation. Consider the Charlie Hebdo attacks of January 2015: Saïd and Chérif Kouachi identified themselves as belonging to Al-Qaeda in Yemen, while Amedy Coulibaly pledged allegiance to ISIS. At this time, ISIS and al-Qaeda were enemies in Syria and elsewhere – and still are. Yet in France, members that pledged allegiance to these competing organisations had joined forces under a broader jihadist banner as the call to avenge the Prophet Mohammed transcended ideologies of individual militant jihadi organisations and resonated across the militant jihadi movements and actors.

Jihadist groups themselves appear to be capitalizing on this. A week after the 13 October attack, ISIS published an editorial on the war in Israel entitled: “Practical steps to fight the Jews”, wherein ISIS expanded the call to target Israel, Jewish people and symbols, and allies to Israel (i.e. the West) around the world. This is a clear indication that even if organisations within the militant jihadi movement have different ideologies, they can feed off (the actions) of one another and potentially capitalize on grievances and calls for action being driven by this current conflict.

It's worth reading the whole piece, including their conclusions about the threat to France and other European countries:
https://icct.nl/publication/hamas-global-jihad-impact-france

France's caution might look like an overreaction to you, but Hamas were only able to carry out so much sadistic destruction on 7 Oct because Israel got complacent. They had come to rely on the Iron Dome to them protect against the constant bombardment, and underestimated what else could happen.

Better safe than sorry...

Good luck to her, on future employment prospects.

It's about time, host nations started getting tougher with these sick fundamentalists. Amazing that France has taken the lead. If you can't respect the country you're a guest in, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Instead of those country's inhabitants supporting crackdowns, Liberal luvvies are more concerned about minority rights - as per usual.

tbf we should be concerned about the rights of all in our country, but they do need to be balanced with national security and social cohesion. This is inherent in hra1998 but in practice relies on judicial interpretation (don't ask who judges the judges - but you could check out who they are). When threats are greater that interpretation may be stricter.

When you see them being interpreted strictly (as per palestinian action) perhaps you should pause and think about what the security services know and you don't.

imo of course

I agree and that's where the naive interference is dangerous. They endanger the rest of us when they push for more tolerance. That gives those who pose a threat, more leverage and buys them time. Look at the deportee sex offender, who went onto rape another woman, after those idiots protected him from being deported there and then. Human rights are meant to benefit everyone but they are manipulated, not just by human rights lawyers but the likes of those, who protest every Saturday. I know if I was putting my name to a cause, I would want to know absolutely everything about what I was fighting for. These people don't. They are too emotionally invested, and a lot of their interest is about self promotion.

The guy on the plane to Turkey? I have sometime wonderes how did the people stopping the deportation feel when they found out... Didn't know he got free again. Iirc the victim even spoke out afterabout ridiculousness of it. Or was it a different case? Either way, makws you wonder if they felt like muppets after

That's the one. They always know best, though eyeroll🙄

Hear hear. I totally agree that emotional overinvestment blends with virtue signalling - people are invested in their idea of themselves as activists, or ‘the kind of person who stands up to injustice’ - to create a dangerous thought-stopping effect.

France comes within touching distance of electing a far right president/parliament every few years or so.

Several times a year there is some nasty high profile case of someone who shouldn't have been in France (often an immigrant who has already committed a serious crime and been issued with a court order to leave France immediately but has not left the country) committing another serious crime. Last year a 20 year old female student was attacked in broad daylight on her way home from classes, raped and murdered and her body dumped in the Bois de Boulogne. The perpetrator turned out to be yet another immigrant who had already been ordered to leave France but had somehow managed to slip through the hands of the authorities.

Every time this happens the views of the general public edge closer to the far right.

The French government is in a difficult situation. Obviously they want to offer refuge to people from places like Gaza. But they also do not want to hand power to the far right at the next election. That would be bad news for the whole country, including millions of law abiding immigrants already settled in France. And every time there is a nasty incident involving an immigrant who has abused the kindness they have been shown by France, the usual suspects will start protesting about how [young Philippine would still be alive and well] if X person had not been permitted to enter/remain in France. And that is a really difficult argument to counter, because it is in fact true.

That's not to say that people born and bred in France don't commit horrible crimes. Look at Dominique Pélicot. But the view is that people like Dominique Pélicot are actually France's problem, whereas non French nationals don't have to be.

I would also add that anti-Semitism is a real problem in France.

Not that long ago a Jewish schoolgirl was gang raped by several of her teenage classmates in what was supposedly an act of revenge for Gaza. And during the high profile spate of Islamist terrorist attacks a few years ago, one of the targets was a Jewish school.

France has a responsibility to protect its Jewish population as well, who are quite vulnerable.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom I agree with all your points, except to say Macron's opposition isn't far right - that would mean extreme. It's the same in the UK. Every time we join in and call far right, we are reducing those citizens' rights to expect safety, in their own countries. Opposition to the left, is about wanting to be heard - to have a say in immigration, because, let's face it, we were never asked what WE wanted. I will be called racist for even making that statement, and that's my point.

I was interested in the outcome of this case so just googled it - she has been moved to Qatar apparently.

She arrived in France on July 11, according to a French diplomatic source.
But social media posts from the past two years calling for the killing of Jews, since deleted, were discovered.

That led to a judicial investigation for condoning terrorism, and an inquiry to determine why the posts had not been detected in advance.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250804-france-expels-gaza-student-over-anti-semitic-social-media-posts-palestinian-sciences-po

She will be at home, in Qatar, with her vile opinions. Just a shame she won't be afforded the same freedoms, as she would have had in France. Not too bright, but full of arrogance.

I did think it would be a better fit for her with its racism.

As a young woman she might have been better off in France but hey ho.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/15/migrant-workers-in-qatar-face-structural-racism-says-un-report

Shit happens. Is aimed at her, not those migrants.

Another example.of FAFO from the last few days..

If you don'r respect the country''s norms if it is legally possible you will.be deported:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2025/08/06/man-faces-deportation-lighting-cigarette-eternal-flame-tomb-unknown-soldier-23850252/amp/

Absolutely. The human rights lawyers will be all over that. Dirty money.

Local media reported that the man is well known to the police and has 21 records in the criminal record processing file (TAJ), including car theft, vandalism, violence and public insults on grounds of race.

A woman, who claimed to be the author of the video, said the man did not ‘appear drunk or under the influence of drugs.’

She added: ‘On the contrary, he was clearly aware of what he was doing, and proud of having done it.’

Good on France for revoking his residence permit and maybe he's another gift to Qatar.

Have a good day ladies xx

You too xx

Qatar is a bit of a reward unfortunately. It's a safe, pleasant place to actually live in (if you're ot a migrant worker).

She’s not rich though, presumably.

I image Qatar is a safe, pleasant place to live if you’re rich. Maybe less so if you have a low income?