Many pro-Palestinians DO actually support Hamas

[ConscientiousObserver]

There I said it.

Obviously they won’t come out and admit it, for fear of exposing themselves as supporters of evil, and also because they worry that they may be traced as it is supposedly illegal to support Hamas, as a proscribed terrorist group.

The evidence is all there -

The blind belief in the blatant Hamas propaganda which defies sense and logic.

The demonising descriptive language used to describe Israel.

The insistence that a war Israel didn’t start justifies Israeli and Jewish people around the work being persecuted, attacked and even murdered.

The protests against Israel but not Hamas who actually started the war.

The complete lack of interest or outrage in the Israeli hostages who actually included children and and a baby.

The calls for immediate ceasefire since the war started with no calls for Hamas to surrender.

The complete lack of accountability for Hamas and Palestinians in general.

I cannot fathom that anyone with a sane mind would support evil, barbaric murderers and rapists who also actively want to get their own civilians killed, and kill them themselves, so can we assume that for these people, their hatred of Israel and the Jewish people is greater than their care for human life as a whole.

A genuine question.

Twisting words - tick (common strategy).

You missed out the little word "many."

As it happens I don't agree with OP that many pro-Palestinians do actually support Hamas. But it's logical to assume that some do, or why aren't both sides equally critical of Hamas? Why do some act as though Israel is at war with the civilians of Gaza rather than at war with Hamas? Lots of posters on these threads are uncomfortable with even discussing who started this war and mock those that even mention it, "but Hamas..."

Where does the "many" come from? What's your source?

Thread title.

Gold 🌟

Here's an interesting report on Hamas's use of social media for propaganda purposes. For various reasons, it helps them greatly to have individuals in the West sharing their key messages.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/understanding-hamass-and-hezbollahs-uses-information-technology

How is someone revealing their "true colours" just by pointing out that civilians die and starve in wars? No one is saying they are happy about that but it does seem an uncontroversial fact about wars.

Look over there is that really all you’ve got, in the face of the ongoing, inhuman carnage in Gaza? It’s an utter tragedy on all sides, and yet the response is to shoot the messenger.

I’ve just returned from the Wilderness Festival, where I had the privilege of speaking personally with Sangita Myska and attending a deeply moving discussion with Ramita Navai, the producer of Gaza: Medics Under Fire. Ramita revealed that the BBC pulled the documentary without any official explanation—though off the record, it was suggested that Sir Robbie Gibb was behind the decision.

Sangita herself has also been cancelled an apparent attempt to intimidate anyone who dares to speak out. And it works. The fear of challenging the Israeli narrative in mainstream media is real and persistent.

Ramita’s insight, drawn from numerous contacts on the ground and interviews with medics in Gaza, was absolutely heartbreaking. According to those she spoke with and it was hundreds , Israeli forces have deliberately and systematically targeted healthcare facilities and personnel as a matter of policy to make the place uninhabitable.

These are war crimes plain and simple.

This is not just a media controversy. It’s about silencing those who bear witness to a humanitarian catastrophe.

Just looked him upj ust remember this when the attacks on the BBC start rolling in.

In August 2022, former BBC presenter Emily Maitlis stated that Gibb was an "active agent of the Conservative party" who played a significant role in determining the nature of the corporation's news output.[24][25] A freedom of information request to the BBC for "[email] communications where he [Gibb] has sought to reprimand after a broadcast or article he disagreed with, educate BBC staff on impartiality, or be informed of output before its publication" has been refused by the BBC on the grounds of cost. The refusal came in April 2023, three-and-a-half months after the initial request.[26]
In September 2024, after The Jewish Chronicle was forced to apologise for publishing a string of fabricated stories about the Gaza war, Alan Rusbridger queried how Gibb could, as a member of the BBC's editorial guidelines and standard committee, sit on a panel and participate in an upcoming review of the impartiality of the BBC’s war coverage.[16]
In July 2025, Gibb's impartiality was again questioned in an open letter from over 400 media figures to the BBC “we are concerned that an individual with close ties to the Jewish Chronicle … has a say in the BBC’s editorial decisions in any capacity, including the decision not to broadcast Gaza: Medics Under Fire”.[27]

Yes it’s not exactly news, surely?

@sualipa no one is suggesting it is "just a media controversy".

Why do people on the anti Israel side always want to shut down debate.

Look over there is that really all you've got is like something kids would say in a playground. Come on, we're adults.

It's like some people have an idea that wars are pleasant.

Instead of things that any rational people would avoid starting at all costs.

This is not just a media controversy. It’s about silencing those who bear witness to a humanitarian catastrophe. this reminds me of ‘in this town, the love that dare not speak its name never shuts up.’ Possibly from Tales of the City?? Anyway, whoever is trying to silence you (collective you, not you personally) is doing a piss poor job of it!

It's very effective.

You're smearing an entire group of people with a vague, largely unprovable accusation simply to deflect from the real elephant in the room: the utter carnage of the war in Gaza. So yes, “look over there” is more than justified.

And by the way, the debate was chaired by the brilliant Jolyon Rubinstein. When someone suggested that parts of the discussion were antisemitic, he calmly reminded them of his surname.

people on the anti Israel side

People aren't anti Israel they are anti the actions of the Israeli government. Big difference between the two

I expect the BBC are trying not to embarrass themselves again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwynrn0g0lko

What, so just because someone is Jewish or has a Jewish surname that means it's impossible for them to hold any antisemitic views?

It's not the Gotcha you think it is.

I'm a woman but I can still hold views that are discriminatory against women. I don't think I do but I absolutely could.

At this point, I wouldn’t believe a single word from the beleaguered ex-Pepsi PR man says about anything.

Yeah yeah...

Equally, I don't know why I find myself against the side described as "pro Palestinian" because I want nothing but good things for the Palestinian people.

Anti Israel are against the actions of the Israeli government. And pro Israel are against the actions of Hamas.

Oh, and the producer I mentioned is either lying and/or antisemitic or she’s a fearless, award-winning journalist with decades of proven credibility who’s telling the truth. I know which I believe.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramita_Navai

Too late. The brainwashing took hold way before he woke up and smelt the coffee.

Also @sualipa I’m not smearing anyone 🤷🏼‍♀️

Of course some people will be pro Hamas, just as some supporters of Isreal are pro genocide of Palestinian people. There are evil people in all walks of life...

So you see some truth in the thread title. Except you would replace the word "many" with "some"

As would I use the word "some", because while we don't actually know the exact proportion, I choose to believe that most pro Palestinians don't support Hamas.