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50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

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Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:38

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

50 French Jewish kids aged 10-15 apparently attended a summer camp in Spain.

On the flight back to France, before takeoff while plane still on tarmac, they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that). Police were called, they were told to get off and their 21 year old female supervisor ended up being beaten to the ground and forcibly handcuffed.

According to witnesses on the plane, the children stopped singing when asked and were well behaved, and nothing was amiss. The crew made a tannoy announcement that there were security concerns and police entered the plane and told the kids to get off. The female supervisor was ordered to make the kids hand over their phones so footage of them being removed from the plane could be deleted and she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed when she refused. The Captain allegedly said Israel was a terrorist state.

She later had to sign an NDA to be released.

The Captain has been identified as being a flying instructor for two of the 9/11 plane hijackers.

WTAF!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/jewish-schoolchildren-kicked-off-plane-singing-hebrew-songs/?s=09

https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/1948787040088457336

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

https://x.com/igaln/status/1948794852285517877

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

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OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 10:11

RainSoakedNights · 26/07/2025 09:32

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

“It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted”
Can you provide a link to any evidence that “Death to Arabs” was chanted ?

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 10:13

RainSoakedNights · 26/07/2025 09:32

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

It hasn't been reported in any credible new sources, it seemed to spread from a highly dubious Twitter post and has no corroboration from any party involed.

(I do see The Canary has picked it up as if it were fact).

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 10:16

windyfarmers · 26/07/2025 10:05

There is no evidence for either side, except the adult being handcuffed and they all agree she was later released. Maybe we should reserve judgement until we DO have some evidence. But if 50 anyone were being disruptive I'd want them to kick them off the plane, don't care what they're saying or in what language.

I agree if 50 teenagers were disruptive then they should be removed. It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though. Normally the kind of behaviour that warrants eviction is associated with adult drunkenness etc .
The manhandling and handcuffing of the 21 year old woman appeared excessive and unnecessary. Was she presenting a threat?
It all needs to be properly investigated.

windyfarmers · 26/07/2025 10:22

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 10:16

I agree if 50 teenagers were disruptive then they should be removed. It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though. Normally the kind of behaviour that warrants eviction is associated with adult drunkenness etc .
The manhandling and handcuffing of the 21 year old woman appeared excessive and unnecessary. Was she presenting a threat?
It all needs to be properly investigated.

One article states she had to be forcibly removed from the plane as she refused to leave when asked. If that was the case, should they just leave her there and further disrupt the flight for all of the other passengers as she isn't posing a threat?

Comedycook · 26/07/2025 10:23

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Regardless of what happened or didn't happen on the plane...What's happening to Palestinian children is irrelevant in regards to this story.

TheAmusedQuail · 26/07/2025 10:24

I found this and it seems to be contradictory. Why get them to hide their religious and cultural identity and then allow them to sing Hebrew songs (note, the comment about the singing was made by Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism - so presumably a credible source)?

They could have been understandably worried about being subject to antisemitic attention, hence hiding their identities. But why out themselves by singing in Hebrew? And why sing at all in public? Imagine 50 British kids singing. No one wants to hear that in a public place.

'Thecampdirectorsinstructedthecampersto hide their Jewish identities as much as possible, by removing their yarmulkas and tzitzis and checking in tefilin under the plane.'

'Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism, posted to X that 50 Jewish French children were removed from their flight by Spanish police after some sang Hebrew songs before departure. He calls it one of the most serious of a spate of recent antisemitic incidents.'

Spain's Minister Of Transportation Shows His True Colors, Asking Spaniards To Stand With Vueling Over "Israeli" Brats...(They Are French Jews) - DansDeals.com

TheAmusedQuail · 26/07/2025 10:28

TheAmusedQuail · 26/07/2025 10:24

I found this and it seems to be contradictory. Why get them to hide their religious and cultural identity and then allow them to sing Hebrew songs (note, the comment about the singing was made by Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism - so presumably a credible source)?

They could have been understandably worried about being subject to antisemitic attention, hence hiding their identities. But why out themselves by singing in Hebrew? And why sing at all in public? Imagine 50 British kids singing. No one wants to hear that in a public place.

'Thecampdirectorsinstructedthecampersto hide their Jewish identities as much as possible, by removing their yarmulkas and tzitzis and checking in tefilin under the plane.'

'Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism, posted to X that 50 Jewish French children were removed from their flight by Spanish police after some sang Hebrew songs before departure. He calls it one of the most serious of a spate of recent antisemitic incidents.'

Spain's Minister Of Transportation Shows His True Colors, Asking Spaniards To Stand With Vueling Over "Israeli" Brats...(They Are French Jews) - DansDeals.com

It DOES seem to contain evidence that some unacceptable behaviour took place. An admission from an Israeli source.

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 10:29

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 10:31

summerskyblue · 26/07/2025 09:34

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

That was always going to be a disaster and it was totally irresponsible to start with.

It just sounds to me like th crew had safety concerns that the kids were rowdy and bothering other passengers and that their carer could not handle them.

They made the sensible decision to ask them to leave before taking off.

Then it seems some people with agenda got involved and are trying to claim they were targeted just because they were Jewish which frankly just sounds like nonsense and trying to curry some sympathy while the world is now seeing the true horror of children starving to death in Gaza...

The crew's priority is the safety of the aircraft and of all passengers. Not political games.

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

Yes this

I have no idea what French child safeguarding policies are like but this is well below any child/ adult ratios I know. I think it is logical to suggest that if the kids were a bit disruptive the airline may have had concern over adequate supervision on the plane when in flight and the group taken off until these issues could get rectified. Airline partly to blame for allowing this booking. Once they're on the plane it is the pilot that makes the ultimate decision of who can fly. Many people get taken off planes if they look too drunk it is a preventative measure because once you're in flight and things kick off safety is a massive concern.

I would imagine the supervisor may have been a bit confrontational and got arrested it doesn't take much to be arrested at an airport or on a flight for obvious reasons.

TheAmusedQuail · 26/07/2025 10:33

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Hmmm. But nut-job or not, he does seem to admit that bad behaviour took place.

I guess with them being kids they wouldn't have been drinking alcohol, but otherwise it does all sound a bit 'stag do' type behaviour, admitted by Chikli.

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 10:33

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 10:13

It hasn't been reported in any credible new sources, it seemed to spread from a highly dubious Twitter post and has no corroboration from any party involed.

(I do see The Canary has picked it up as if it were fact).

With no answer on source it seems that disinformation is spread quickly online.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 10:37

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 10:16

I agree if 50 teenagers were disruptive then they should be removed. It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though. Normally the kind of behaviour that warrants eviction is associated with adult drunkenness etc .
The manhandling and handcuffing of the 21 year old woman appeared excessive and unnecessary. Was she presenting a threat?
It all needs to be properly investigated.

It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though.
I don't think that's true any disruptive behaviour or safety concerns you will be removed from flight drunk or not. Pilots don't take any chances with passenger safety and if you've got a plane of 50 kids on board who are being disruptive and you perceive there to be inadequate supervision you are unlikely to take the risk. Any risk assessment would lead to that conclusion in my opinion

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 10:39

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 10:31

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

Yes this

I have no idea what French child safeguarding policies are like but this is well below any child/ adult ratios I know. I think it is logical to suggest that if the kids were a bit disruptive the airline may have had concern over adequate supervision on the plane when in flight and the group taken off until these issues could get rectified. Airline partly to blame for allowing this booking. Once they're on the plane it is the pilot that makes the ultimate decision of who can fly. Many people get taken off planes if they look too drunk it is a preventative measure because once you're in flight and things kick off safety is a massive concern.

I would imagine the supervisor may have been a bit confrontational and got arrested it doesn't take much to be arrested at an airport or on a flight for obvious reasons.

44 minor children, 3 adult aged campers, the camp leader and 4 counselors. It wasn't one 21 year in charge of 50 kids. That sounds like perfectly adequate ratios for those age groups to me. Airlines presumably take bookings like that all the time.

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 10:40

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 10:31

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

Yes this

I have no idea what French child safeguarding policies are like but this is well below any child/ adult ratios I know. I think it is logical to suggest that if the kids were a bit disruptive the airline may have had concern over adequate supervision on the plane when in flight and the group taken off until these issues could get rectified. Airline partly to blame for allowing this booking. Once they're on the plane it is the pilot that makes the ultimate decision of who can fly. Many people get taken off planes if they look too drunk it is a preventative measure because once you're in flight and things kick off safety is a massive concern.

I would imagine the supervisor may have been a bit confrontational and got arrested it doesn't take much to be arrested at an airport or on a flight for obvious reasons.

There were 7 adults supervising.

inamarina · 26/07/2025 10:40

RainSoakedNights · 26/07/2025 09:32

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

It’s been reported where exactly? The airline’s official statement doesn’t mention it.

Onlyontuesday · 26/07/2025 10:40

The crew will be under scrutiny for any decision like this: the airline will not want delays. They will have wanted to get on with their job, it's so unlikely they'd be so motivated by antisemitism that they would all decide to put their jobs at risk and cause themselves massive stress.

The kids have every reason to lie and downplay their actions. And if it was a group of 50 with one adult, it could have just been a few of them tampering with equipment- leaving most of the group and witnesses being none the wiser.

inamarina · 26/07/2025 10:45

RainSoakedNights · 26/07/2025 09:50

So you genuinely believe that children were kicked off a flight just for being Jewish?

So you genuinely believe they were chanting “death to Arabs” even though not even the airline’s official statement confirms it?
Because that would seem to be the case based on your other posts.
Fact is, we don’t know all the details. Hopefully the incident will be properly investigated.

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 10:48

TheAmusedQuail · 26/07/2025 10:24

I found this and it seems to be contradictory. Why get them to hide their religious and cultural identity and then allow them to sing Hebrew songs (note, the comment about the singing was made by Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism - so presumably a credible source)?

They could have been understandably worried about being subject to antisemitic attention, hence hiding their identities. But why out themselves by singing in Hebrew? And why sing at all in public? Imagine 50 British kids singing. No one wants to hear that in a public place.

'Thecampdirectorsinstructedthecampersto hide their Jewish identities as much as possible, by removing their yarmulkas and tzitzis and checking in tefilin under the plane.'

'Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism, posted to X that 50 Jewish French children were removed from their flight by Spanish police after some sang Hebrew songs before departure. He calls it one of the most serious of a spate of recent antisemitic incidents.'

Spain's Minister Of Transportation Shows His True Colors, Asking Spaniards To Stand With Vueling Over "Israeli" Brats...(They Are French Jews) - DansDeals.com

That's when they were trying to get their next flight out, after being thrown off the first time. There's a video floating around.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 10:48

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 10:39

44 minor children, 3 adult aged campers, the camp leader and 4 counselors. It wasn't one 21 year in charge of 50 kids. That sounds like perfectly adequate ratios for those age groups to me. Airlines presumably take bookings like that all the time.

Fair enough but risk assessment by pilot obviously concluded that he did not want to take the risk with this large group at 10,000 ft.

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 10:50

Onlyontuesday · 26/07/2025 10:40

The crew will be under scrutiny for any decision like this: the airline will not want delays. They will have wanted to get on with their job, it's so unlikely they'd be so motivated by antisemitism that they would all decide to put their jobs at risk and cause themselves massive stress.

The kids have every reason to lie and downplay their actions. And if it was a group of 50 with one adult, it could have just been a few of them tampering with equipment- leaving most of the group and witnesses being none the wiser.

The public sector, in this country, have seemed more than willing to risk their jobs. I'm reminded of the teacher, not longer after 7/10, holding an antisemitic placard. Then you've got (some) of the medical profession, not giving two hoots about intimidating jewish patients, when donning their free Palestine badges. Good job from Streeting, putting a stop to that unprofessional bias. There are some naive posts on here.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 10:53

Why am I not in the least surprised to see who started this thread?

Children thrown off a plane? Have you seen what’s happening to children in Gaza, OP? Oh, I forgot, that’s all fake 🙄

Watch BBC 10 o’clock news from last night. Then try to look at yourself in a mirror.

Comedycook · 26/07/2025 10:54

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 10:53

Why am I not in the least surprised to see who started this thread?

Children thrown off a plane? Have you seen what’s happening to children in Gaza, OP? Oh, I forgot, that’s all fake 🙄

Watch BBC 10 o’clock news from last night. Then try to look at yourself in a mirror.

What's happening to children in Gaza is irrelevant in relation to this story.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 10:55

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:52

You think it’s OK for kids to be kicked off a plane because they’re Jewish?

That is quite obviously not why they were “kicked off”.

inamarina · 26/07/2025 10:57

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 10:53

Why am I not in the least surprised to see who started this thread?

Children thrown off a plane? Have you seen what’s happening to children in Gaza, OP? Oh, I forgot, that’s all fake 🙄

Watch BBC 10 o’clock news from last night. Then try to look at yourself in a mirror.

How exactly is what’s happening to the children in Gaza relevant to whether or not an airline was right to kick off a group of Jewish-French teenagers?

RainSoakedNights · 26/07/2025 10:57

Comedycook · 26/07/2025 10:54

What's happening to children in Gaza is irrelevant in relation to this story.

Well it’s not, is it? Because the children in question have been so brainwashed, to the extent that they think it’s acceptable to sing “death to Arabs” in public places.