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Conflict in the Middle East

50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

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Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:38

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

50 French Jewish kids aged 10-15 apparently attended a summer camp in Spain.

On the flight back to France, before takeoff while plane still on tarmac, they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that). Police were called, they were told to get off and their 21 year old female supervisor ended up being beaten to the ground and forcibly handcuffed.

According to witnesses on the plane, the children stopped singing when asked and were well behaved, and nothing was amiss. The crew made a tannoy announcement that there were security concerns and police entered the plane and told the kids to get off. The female supervisor was ordered to make the kids hand over their phones so footage of them being removed from the plane could be deleted and she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed when she refused. The Captain allegedly said Israel was a terrorist state.

She later had to sign an NDA to be released.

The Captain has been identified as being a flying instructor for two of the 9/11 plane hijackers.

WTAF!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/jewish-schoolchildren-kicked-off-plane-singing-hebrew-songs/?s=09

https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/1948787040088457336

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

https://x.com/igaln/status/1948794852285517877

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

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ohfourfoxache · 25/07/2025 21:39

FitAt50 · 25/07/2025 21:31

I am very pro Judaism and even I think these kids sound like brats and deserved to be kicked off.

With the hugest possible respect, Judaism isn’t the problem here

Fault lies with extremists (on both sides - just to a greater or lesser extent)

Martymcfly24 · 25/07/2025 21:40

"One of my friends shouted a word in Hebrew because he was still a bit in holiday-camp mood," he said, adding: "Perhaps he said it too loudly."
Flight staff then warned that they would alert police if it happened again, he said. "We immediately stopped making noise," Samson said."

To me this sounds like a Mumsnet school v parent thread. AIBU for my child not to do his detention because he didn't do wrong..

MondayYogurt · 25/07/2025 21:44

This is just FAFO in action.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2025 21:52

50 10-15 yo kids on a plane, supervised by one 21 yo?

It would be a miracle if they weren’t a pain in the arse. Whoever planned this is an idiot.

TakeMe2Insanity · 25/07/2025 21:56

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Hamas isn’t relevant here.

Israel IS killing children.

Since when was it normal to sing in a group on a plane? The answer is NEVER. It’s rude and rowdy.

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:06

This is interesting if true.

Have the French authorities made any statement about 50 French minors being separated from their supervisor abroad and what they did to help them get home safely?

WILL FRANCE PROTECT FRENCH CHILDREN — OR NOT, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO JEWISH?
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By now, most people have heard the story of the 50 French children, aged 10–15, who were forcibly removed from a Vueling Airlines flight, while their 21-year-old group leader was violently handcuffed and arrested.
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The children were returning home from a Jewish summer camp, flying from Valencia to Paris. According to reports, they were singing Hebrew songs onboard—prompting the crew to declare them "disruptive" and have them all removed from the flight.
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Video footage shows the young director, a woman, pinned to the floor and handcuffed by Spanish police.
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The Airline issued a statement claiming the group was removed for “highly disruptive behavior,” including interfering with emergency equipment and safety demonstrations. The airline denied any religious motive.
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Spanish Civil Guard claimed that they were unaware of the passengers’ religious affiliation and acted solely on the airline’s request based on safety concerns -including several men handcuffing a non-violent young woman which itself is strange. But witnesses and parents tell a different story.
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They say the children were simply singing a Hebrew song before takeoff. After a warning from the crew, they stopped immediately—yet police were still called. Some counselors and parents allege that crew members referred to Israel as a “terrorist state” and insisted the group be removed.
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So what happened next? According to various reports, the children were split up: 25 boarded a different airline, while the rest were put up in a hotel overnight in Valencia before flying back to France.
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The director was arrested but later released—some reports suggest she was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement. The children were eventually taken care of by camp staff and local authorities. But what about France?
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Did the French government stand up for its citizens—its children? It seems not. French authorities have made no public statements beyond vague consular assistance. There has been no significant political response or outrage.
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The Israeli Foreign Ministry stated that most of the group made it back to Paris the next day, and that Israeli diplomats coordinated with French officials to assist them. But these weren’t Israeli citizens. They were French citizens. Why was it the Israeli government stepping in to help them, not France?
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Is Jewish identity now a reason for the French state to look the other way? Imagine if the same thing had happened to a group of French Muslim children. Would anyone expect a Muslim country to intervene on their behalf instead of France? Of course not. So why is it acceptable in this case?
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Based on diplomatic norms and past precedents, it would be reasonable to expect some level of inquiry or response from the French government—especially when a large group of French minors is involved, and particularly when there are allegations of mistreatment, possible antisemitism, or discrimination. The use of force and arrest of a French citizen abroad, especially a young woman responsible for accompanying children, would typically prompt at least a formal reaction. Historically, when French minors on organized trips abroad have been involved in accidents, medical emergencies, or controversial incidents, the French government has responded. Consular officials were often dispatched, internal reviews were opened through the Foreign Ministry or the Ministry of National Education, and updates were provided to the public and parliament—especially when the situation touched on human rights or discrimination. So why, in this case, has France chosen silence? Is the protection of French children conditional—only guaranteed if they aren’t Jewish?

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Martymcfly24 · 25/07/2025 22:08

What's the source on that @Anonimummy ?

VisitationRights · 25/07/2025 22:09

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So suddenly you are okay with collective punishment. It is okay to punish French children because of a conflict with which they are not involved.

Astleyxyz · 25/07/2025 22:11

Source op ?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 25/07/2025 22:12

The two accounts of what happened are so very different that it's hard to get a picture of what actually happened. I will be reserving judgement until some other independent witness testimonies start to emerge.

TaupeMember · 25/07/2025 22:13

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 21:27

So from the responses, posters on here would be OK with 50 French Arab Muslim children, who have nothing to do with the Palestinians, being forcibly kicked off a plane by Spanish armed police for saying something in Arabic, and their young female supervisor being beaten to the ground and forcibly put into handcuffs because she refused to hand over the kids phones, because of what Hamas did on Oct 7th?

You also wouldn’t believe the children or witnesses that they weren’t being disruptive, despite there being no evidence that they were?

I wonder how many answers I’ll get to that……….

Literally nobody has said that

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:16

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2025 21:52

50 10-15 yo kids on a plane, supervised by one 21 yo?

It would be a miracle if they weren’t a pain in the arse. Whoever planned this is an idiot.

You would assume they made the outbound trip in the same circumstances though wouldn’t you?

They were RETURNING to France.

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PrincessOfPreschool · 25/07/2025 22:17

NoweverytimeIgoforthemailbox · 25/07/2025 20:56

One 21 year old was in charge of 50 kids on the plane? I’m surprised they allowed that booking. It sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Nothing to do with anyone being Jewish or singing/ not singing Death to Arabs. Everything to do with being out of control, over excited teenagers with no one in authority to control them - obviously led to some rowdy behaviour, which the pilot did not want continuing whilst in the air.

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:17

TaupeMember · 25/07/2025 22:13

Literally nobody has said that

Literally no one on here is believing the account from the kids, their parents or other passengers on the flight though………………

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PrincessOfPreschool · 25/07/2025 22:19

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:16

You would assume they made the outbound trip in the same circumstances though wouldn’t you?

They were RETURNING to France.

Maybe they were a little better behaved having just said goodbye to their parents, but that wore off.

Hodgemollar · 25/07/2025 22:23

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:17

Literally no one on here is believing the account from the kids, their parents or other passengers on the flight though………………

Why would anyone take their parent’s word for it? They weren’t there? There seems to be multiple reports from the pilots, cabin crew and airport staff cooperating the reports regarding the behaviour of this group of teenagers, some as old as 17. “Kids” as if they are tiny young children is disingenuous.

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:24

PrincessOfPreschool · 25/07/2025 22:17

Exactly what I was thinking.

Nothing to do with anyone being Jewish or singing/ not singing Death to Arabs. Everything to do with being out of control, over excited teenagers with no one in authority to control them - obviously led to some rowdy behaviour, which the pilot did not want continuing whilst in the air.

Have any other passengers come forward saying they witnessed this ‘rowdy behaviour’?

This was in a plane, a small enclosed space. Lots of videos circulate of bad behaviour on planes. Someone must have seen it.

I wonder if the Spanish camp staff, from where these kids had spent the previous 2 weeks under the control of this young supervisor, will have anything to say about their behaviour?

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Astleyxyz · 25/07/2025 22:25

What’s the source for your post above op ? You haven’t provided a link

Hodgemollar · 25/07/2025 22:28

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2025 21:52

50 10-15 yo kids on a plane, supervised by one 21 yo?

It would be a miracle if they weren’t a pain in the arse. Whoever planned this is an idiot.

The reports seem to suggest 8 adults were also removed from the plane so the 21 year old seems to only be one of the supervisors.

Someone was arrested in the airport after disembarking, so whatever the questionable behaviour was it seems to have continued in the airport.

ParmaVioletTea · 25/07/2025 22:31

I think most people are ignorant about the depth of ordinary casual anti-Semitism and Jew hatred. It’s at the foundation of all European and Middle Eastern cultures.

Hodgemollar · 25/07/2025 22:31

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 22:24

Have any other passengers come forward saying they witnessed this ‘rowdy behaviour’?

This was in a plane, a small enclosed space. Lots of videos circulate of bad behaviour on planes. Someone must have seen it.

I wonder if the Spanish camp staff, from where these kids had spent the previous 2 weeks under the control of this young supervisor, will have anything to say about their behaviour?

Why would their behaviour 2 weeks prior have anything to do with their behaviour on this occasion?
If someone commits a crime or a public disorder act I don’t think them being able to appear decently in public at any point leading up to the incident is really relevant. They were removed off the plane for their behaviour on the plane, one passenger who had been removed was arrested in the airport for their aggressive behaviour in the airport. Anything prior to those moments isn’t relevant.

Hodgemollar · 25/07/2025 22:33

ParmaVioletTea · 25/07/2025 22:31

I think most people are ignorant about the depth of ordinary casual anti-Semitism and Jew hatred. It’s at the foundation of all European and Middle Eastern cultures.

What antisemitism has been a foundation of my Irish culture, since it is apparently imbedded in the “foundation of all European (culture)”.

KeebabSpider · 25/07/2025 22:35

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:54

There is no evidence of what they were singing it even that they were.

Hebrew is quite difficult to learn I understand so what are the chances the Spanish airline crew understood what they were saying anyway?

Why were they not singing in French or Yiddish? Why Hebrew? Hebrew is a modern language made up by Israel, or Hebrew is a language used in religious texts.

Where did they learn to sing their little ditty? You tube? Insta? where lots of Israelis are singing 'death to arabs' maybe?

ParmaVioletTea · 25/07/2025 22:40

Hebrew is a modern language made up by Israel,

And there we have it - casual anti-semitism

ParmaVioletTea · 25/07/2025 22:42

Hodgemollar · 25/07/2025 22:33

What antisemitism has been a foundation of my Irish culture, since it is apparently imbedded in the “foundation of all European (culture)”.

I didn’t say that - I said “at the foundation”. It’s a significant difference but possibly too subtle for you?