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To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force

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ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 20:03

Seriously, when even the Daily Express are even calling mass forced starvation and putting pictures like this on their front pages.

Surely the UN could act as a peacekeeping force and stop this insanity?

Its obscene.

To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force
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ummymummy · 23/07/2025 22:26

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:15

This!

Hamas would invade Israel committing atrocities if israel laid down their weapons. If hamas did Israel would attempt to return to how things were pre Oct 7th.

Oh yes cos everything was hunky dory for the Palestinians before October 7th living in their own country as second class citizens plagued by these monstrous settlers

ohfook · 23/07/2025 22:27

@Flumpflimpo I’m happy to be corrected here because my understanding of the issue is not complete but after ww2 Britain and the US were instrumental in annexing the land that Isreal is on now and setting up Isreal as we now know it - essentially a safe haven for Jews after the horrors of the war. So we essentially hung our hat on supporting Isreal and let Palestinians pay the price for Germany’s actions. A huge amount of our support of Isreal is based on not questioning our actions in 1948.

My own personal belief is that while I understand the need was there for Jewish people to have a homeland. I’m not sure what cost I think is acceptable. Certainly not the deaths of all of these children. Hindsight is of course a wonderful thing to have in an incredibly complex geo-political situation and i genuinely don’t know how it should have been done instead. I know a lot of people believe the US essentially wanted to set up a stronghold in the Middle East which is why they support Isreal - I do t know enough about US politics though to have an opinion on that either way.

JaneJeffer · 23/07/2025 22:27

Even if you did see something, no evidence its true.
says it all

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:27

Please do copy and paste the article as its behind a paywall

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:28

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:26

'Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them'

The ME is full of terrorist organisations. Have you seen what's going on in Syria. Many places oppose the terrorists though. Except gaza.

Honestly your genocide denial is disgusting.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 23/07/2025 22:28

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 20:10

And yet all the adults holding these alleged starving dc all seem so very well fed. There doesn't seem to be any common sense 'journalism' reporting that these poor dc may well have have significant medical problems.

What an utterly vile comment.

Starving children in Gaza have been verified by countless medical professionals, aid workers, and independent bodies. Infants die long before adults in famine conditions- that’s basic biology, not a conspiracy.

If your first instinct when faced with the image of a dying baby is to accuse their family of faking it because they don’t look thin enough for your standards, that says far more about your humanity than theirs.

Here are just a few of the many verified reports:

UNICEF: https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/famine-like-conditions-and-child-deaths-gaza
The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter
CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinians-killed-trying-to-reach-aid-gaza-israel-officials-say
UN Human Rights Office: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/06/gaza-un-experts-warn-famine-and-urge-access-humanitarian-aid

Gaza suffering man-made mass starvation, says WHO chief

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus issues warning, as more than 100 aid groups urge Israel to ease blockade

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter

Martymcfly24 · 23/07/2025 22:28

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:27

Please do copy and paste the article as its behind a paywall

I posted a link to it earlier in another publication and explained the Haaratz one was behind a paywall.

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:28

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:26

'Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them'

The ME is full of terrorist organisations. Have you seen what's going on in Syria. Many places oppose the terrorists though. Except gaza.

Maybe some palestinians support hamas because they are sick of israel abusing their country?
Support for terrorists doesnt come from nowhere.

Turmerictolly · 23/07/2025 22:28

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 20:10

And yet all the adults holding these alleged starving dc all seem so very well fed. There doesn't seem to be any common sense 'journalism' reporting that these poor dc may well have have significant medical problems.

Then Israel should let foreign journalists in to see what’s going on (if they’re brave enough).

NotTerfNorCis · 23/07/2025 22:29

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:26

'Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them'

The ME is full of terrorist organisations. Have you seen what's going on in Syria. Many places oppose the terrorists though. Except gaza.

The IDF is behaving worst than many 'terrorist' organisations right now.

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:30

ohfook · 23/07/2025 22:27

@Flumpflimpo I’m happy to be corrected here because my understanding of the issue is not complete but after ww2 Britain and the US were instrumental in annexing the land that Isreal is on now and setting up Isreal as we now know it - essentially a safe haven for Jews after the horrors of the war. So we essentially hung our hat on supporting Isreal and let Palestinians pay the price for Germany’s actions. A huge amount of our support of Isreal is based on not questioning our actions in 1948.

My own personal belief is that while I understand the need was there for Jewish people to have a homeland. I’m not sure what cost I think is acceptable. Certainly not the deaths of all of these children. Hindsight is of course a wonderful thing to have in an incredibly complex geo-political situation and i genuinely don’t know how it should have been done instead. I know a lot of people believe the US essentially wanted to set up a stronghold in the Middle East which is why they support Isreal - I do t know enough about US politics though to have an opinion on that either way.

Definitelty though probably trying to help

the UK has caused some of the problems that are still ongoing today

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:30

Turmerictolly · 23/07/2025 22:28

Then Israel should let foreign journalists in to see what’s going on (if they’re brave enough).

They would be taken hostage immediately. Hamas aren't very reasonable types.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 23/07/2025 22:30

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 20:47

We are also seeing images of hamas stuffing their faces in the tunnels. The problem is hamas, always hamas.

Some organisations are perpetuating the starvation myth by circulating pictures of dc with obvious genetic malformations and apparent chronic medical conditions whilst their well fed parents offer them up for exploitation.

Do you have any evidence at all to back up these outlandish claims?

Bubblegumicecreamm · 23/07/2025 22:30

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:28

Maybe some palestinians support hamas because they are sick of israel abusing their country?
Support for terrorists doesnt come from nowhere.

Vile. Rape is not resistance.

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:30

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:30

They would be taken hostage immediately. Hamas aren't very reasonable types.

You have spoken lots about what hamas do.

What do you think about the IDF killing children?

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:31

Bubblegumicecreamm · 23/07/2025 22:30

Vile. Rape is not resistance.

Where did i write the word rape?

Oh right i didnt.

I could also say to you "killing children is not resistance is it"

so why are the IDF killing children?

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:32

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:30

You have spoken lots about what hamas do.

What do you think about the IDF killing children?

I think it is horrific that dc may be harmed because hamas use gazans as human shields

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:33

ohfook · 23/07/2025 22:27

@Flumpflimpo I’m happy to be corrected here because my understanding of the issue is not complete but after ww2 Britain and the US were instrumental in annexing the land that Isreal is on now and setting up Isreal as we now know it - essentially a safe haven for Jews after the horrors of the war. So we essentially hung our hat on supporting Isreal and let Palestinians pay the price for Germany’s actions. A huge amount of our support of Isreal is based on not questioning our actions in 1948.

My own personal belief is that while I understand the need was there for Jewish people to have a homeland. I’m not sure what cost I think is acceptable. Certainly not the deaths of all of these children. Hindsight is of course a wonderful thing to have in an incredibly complex geo-political situation and i genuinely don’t know how it should have been done instead. I know a lot of people believe the US essentially wanted to set up a stronghold in the Middle East which is why they support Isreal - I do t know enough about US politics though to have an opinion on that either way.

I can correct you as that is totally historically wrong.
The us had nothing to do with it for starters.
The brits had control of mandatory Palestine and were sick and tired of policing the fighting between Palestinian Jews (living there, legally owning and buying land) and Palestinian Arabs. They asked the UN to help solve the problem. The un set up a commission in early 1947 (and bunch of countries led it but not Britain or any security council member). They recommended a partition plan. This partition plan was then voted on at the UN in November 1947 and passed.
However Arabs refused to accept the plan. Palestinian jews did.
A nasty civil war began. Brits were desperate to leave and did so in all the chaos in May 1948. The day the Brits left, the Palestinian Jews declared the state of israel. No one declared a state of palestine BTW. Hence Israel came into being.
This is all verifiable historical fact.
Hth

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:33

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TaupeMember · 23/07/2025 22:34

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 21:46

I agree. But two things can be true at once. No one seems to care at all about starving Yemeni children and I see no marches demanding intervention to protect the druze in As Suweida who were even massacred in their hospital beds

Start a thread then.

Why should we shut up about this atrocity because there's others?

The most non sensical, ridiculous argument.

User37482 · 23/07/2025 22:34

user1492538376 · 23/07/2025 20:59

I’d put money on you being a conspiracy theorist.

Nah, theres no way any decent parent feeds themselves and not their child. These kids clearly need medical aid but food is quite obviously not the problem.

I would say I’ve seen some very skinny looking gazans and some who are very well rounded. There is a problem with even distribution and it’s been going on for a long time, probably because those with connections are getting food whilst those without have to buy food that’s supposed to be free off Hamas. I saw a particularly stupid tweet where journalists in gaza were saying they were so hungry that they were drinking salt water and one of the the journalists was obese. Also saw a tweet where some poor man was trying to buy food that’s supposed was supposed to be aid and the seller was charging extortionate prices. If you are not hamas aligned you aren’t going to get food.

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:35

Martymcfly24 · 23/07/2025 22:33

Hamas with press vests on?

Bubblegumicecreamm · 23/07/2025 22:35

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:31

Where did i write the word rape?

Oh right i didnt.

I could also say to you "killing children is not resistance is it"

so why are the IDF killing children?

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Hamas are rapists, they have raped women.

You claim supporting terrorists doesn’t come from no where, you clearly have a line which if crossed enables the support of terrorists.