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Conflict in the Middle East

To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force

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ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 20:03

Seriously, when even the Daily Express are even calling mass forced starvation and putting pictures like this on their front pages.

Surely the UN could act as a peacekeeping force and stop this insanity?

Its obscene.

To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force
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Martymcfly24 · 23/07/2025 22:16

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:08

Where has the idf expressed delight at the suffering of Palestinians?
I saw on sm a lot of delight at the suffering of israelis whether on 7/10 or during iranian attacks

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The IDF had a whole media account 72 Virgins Uncensored that literally did just that.

There are also videos of IDF soliders dressed in Palestinian womens underwear.
A video of an IDF solider going into a Palestinians home and taking a little boys back pack and mocking him
An IDF solider going into a bombed school and pretending to be a teacher.
The gender reveal where they blew up buildings.

There have been so many social media posts

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:17

NeonMist · 23/07/2025 22:16

words cannot describe the horror of not having a workable system in place that can intervene- UN, EU - what are they up to?! feel so sad for mankind

I agree. It feels awful to live in a world where this is happening and no one is intervening

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:17

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:14

The conflict started way before the October 8th attack, as you well know.

Before that date, Israelis were denying Palestinians their basic human rights in many ways.

It was october 7 and, yes, the conflict goes way back. Could even talk about the massacre and expulsion of the jews of Hebron in 1929 as an example.
Are you actually defending the massacrss of 7/10?!?! You think it was a good thing for the Palestinian people?!

HRTQueen · 23/07/2025 22:18

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:01

Gazans elected hamas. Many hostages were kept with civilians. You seem to think gazans don't support hamas?

There hasn’t been elections for nearly 20 years

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:18

Bubblegumicecreamm · 23/07/2025 22:15

There comes a point in time where something becomes historical. You cannot argue that Hamas were just or blameless for their disgusting acts based on an event of over 100 years ago.

But this conflict is ALL about the historical context isn’t it?

The Nakba, all of it.

And I don’t say that to justify the actions of Hamas either. But to say that you cannot ignore history in this conflict.

Israel have ignored ALL the borders and boundaries too since 1948.

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Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:19

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:17

It was october 7 and, yes, the conflict goes way back. Could even talk about the massacre and expulsion of the jews of Hebron in 1929 as an example.
Are you actually defending the massacrss of 7/10?!?! You think it was a good thing for the Palestinian people?!

Answer my two questions first. You haven't answered any. Why is that?

The last question i asked you was this:

"You are very biased towards israel. Are you israeli?"

Everexpanding · 23/07/2025 22:19

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 20:10

And yet all the adults holding these alleged starving dc all seem so very well fed. There doesn't seem to be any common sense 'journalism' reporting that these poor dc may well have have significant medical problems.

@Gloriia Please just stop.

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:19

Martymcfly24 · 23/07/2025 22:16

The IDF had a whole media account 72 Virgins Uncensored that literally did just that.

There are also videos of IDF soliders dressed in Palestinian womens underwear.
A video of an IDF solider going into a Palestinians home and taking a little boys back pack and mocking him
An IDF solider going into a bombed school and pretending to be a teacher.
The gender reveal where they blew up buildings.

There have been so many social media posts

This is not the IDF. The idf did not have a media account called that. The idf is an organization, not an individual

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:20

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:19

Answer my two questions first. You haven't answered any. Why is that?

The last question i asked you was this:

"You are very biased towards israel. Are you israeli?"

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You never answered any of mine. And no, I am not giving personal details, ta very much.
It'd be like me asking 'you seem very obsessed with israel, are you Muslim?'

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:21

HRTQueen · 23/07/2025 22:18

There hasn’t been elections for nearly 20 years

Yet they haven't ousted them have they. Funny that. Well it isn't funny at all but it speaks for itself, no?

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Gcsunnyside23 · 23/07/2025 22:22

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 20:09

They'd probably get taken hostage by hamas.

More likely shot by Israel

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:23

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:21

Yet they haven't ousted them have they. Funny that. Well it isn't funny at all but it speaks for itself, no?

Such an ignorant comment.

Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them.

The victim blaming is fucking shocking.

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Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:23

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:20

You never answered any of mine. And no, I am not giving personal details, ta very much.
It'd be like me asking 'you seem very obsessed with israel, are you Muslim?'

Well you get what you give. If you won't answer any of my questions, i wont' be answering yours.

I will give my non religion though as it is of little importance to me.

I am no religion and never was .

My parents never made me any religion as they were non religious.

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:24

'The entire world can see who the problem is and it isn't the Palestinians'

Hamas are the problem who the gazans support. Did you know many hostages were kept in alleged civilians homes?

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 22:24

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:19

This is not the IDF. The idf did not have a media account called that. The idf is an organization, not an individual

Harretz did an expose on it.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2024-02-04/ty-article/.premium/israeli-army-its-admits-staff-was-behind-graphic-gaza-telegram-channel/0000018d-70b4-dd6e-a98d-f4b6a9c00000

Martymcfly24 · 23/07/2025 22:24

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:23

Such an ignorant comment.

Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them.

The victim blaming is fucking shocking.

Between being under a terrorist organization that was in charge and living in an Occupied Territory that supported this terrorist organization as well as controlled every movement of the civilian population there probably wasn't much of an opportunity for ousting anyone.

MyDearEagle · 23/07/2025 22:24

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:15

@DickAhOn you are very biased towards Israel.

Are you Israeli?

And you are very biased against Israel.

But it really, really shouldn't matter right now.

Decent people should, at least for a moment, care less about how we got here and worry more about stopping the current atrocities.

I'm ducking out, because I'm sick of the tendency for both sides just to get into an endless game of finger pointing, and this thread will just go like every other one, and it doesnt do a single Palestinian or Israeli any good whatsoever.

Enjoy your debate club for the privileged.

Flumpflimpo · 23/07/2025 22:25

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:24

'The entire world can see who the problem is and it isn't the Palestinians'

Hamas are the problem who the gazans support. Did you know many hostages were kept in alleged civilians homes?

What is your opinion on israeli soldiers killing children?

Bubblegumicecreamm · 23/07/2025 22:25

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:18

But this conflict is ALL about the historical context isn’t it?

The Nakba, all of it.

And I don’t say that to justify the actions of Hamas either. But to say that you cannot ignore history in this conflict.

Israel have ignored ALL the borders and boundaries too since 1948.

I agree we should consider context, but the context here doesn’t justify or even negate the re-escalation by Hamas.

Think of all the conflicts that could be reignited if we looked to previous matters of injustice or unfairness.

For the sake of the Palestinian people I think support would be more easily gained through the vocal condemnation of Hamas from all groups.

I would be completely for more countries getting involved if it means that the attacks can be more targeted and this situation can be sooner alleviated for the people of Palestine and the hostages. Israel need to be reigned in.

DickAhOn · 23/07/2025 22:25

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:18

But this conflict is ALL about the historical context isn’t it?

The Nakba, all of it.

And I don’t say that to justify the actions of Hamas either. But to say that you cannot ignore history in this conflict.

Israel have ignored ALL the borders and boundaries too since 1948.

They really haven't. Palestinian jews accepted the un partition plan in 1947 and Palestinian Arabs rejected it (any partition, any jewish homeland).
Palestinian jews declared the state of israel in 1948 when the brits left. Palestinian Arabs didn't. Why not?
Then the new state of israel was invaded by 5 arab armies. They held on to wb and gaza, ruled by Egypt and Jordan. No state of palestine was created. Why not? Why didn't they create a state in all of wb and gaza? They had control....

LightOnTheGrey · 23/07/2025 22:26

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/23/gaza-doctors-becoming-too-weak-to-treat-patients-as-hunger-crisis-deepens

About adults ^^

Article from a consultant surgeon at Oxford who somehow I think is unlikely to be part of Hamas:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/23/gaza-doctors-becoming-too-weak-to-treat-patients-as-hunger-crisis-deepens

They are feeding babies with sugar solution because there is no formula. I mean, of course, he could be lying because he is just a white, middle aged woke woman or something or maybe he is somehow on hamas' payroll but if there is even a small chance that this is true don't you think that's shocking?

(I realise I didn't quote the post im replying to but my reply is meant for the fat palestinian adults conspiracy poster

Gaza doctors ‘becoming too weak to treat patients’ as hunger crisis deepens

Malnourished medical staff say they are struggling to provide care to injured civilians, while recovery rates are also hit by

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/23/gaza-doctors-becoming-too-weak-to-treat-patients-as-hunger-crisis-deepens

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:26

'Hamas are a terrorist organisation so it totally stands to reason why the people of Gaza haven’t been able to get rid of them'

The ME is full of terrorist organisations. Have you seen what's going on in Syria. Many places oppose the terrorists though. Except gaza.

ArtfulGoldWriter · 23/07/2025 22:26

Gloriia · 23/07/2025 22:24

'The entire world can see who the problem is and it isn't the Palestinians'

Hamas are the problem who the gazans support. Did you know many hostages were kept in alleged civilians homes?

Hamas are a terrorist org.

Stands to reason that the Gaza population is scared of them.

Pretty fucking obvious to anyone who isn’t out to dehumanise Palestinian poeple.

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