To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force

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Seriously, when even the Daily Express are even calling mass forced starvation and putting pictures like this on their front pages.

Surely the UN could act as a peacekeeping force and stop this insanity?

Its obscene.

Why were your parents anti-Irish? What wer their reasons?

There was a terrible anti-Irish sentiment in London at least in the 50s 60s 70s. It was pushed by the media and lapped up by people the way immigrants are targeted nowadays.

Its sad. Yes i know it went on. My mum was Irish, living in england at the time. My dad was english.

It affected our whole family. My mum eceived so much abuse at the time in England, that she felt she had to get out of england. She left my father and moved back to Ireeland.
I know irish were hated at the time , i just dont know why.

It doesnt really make sense, seeing as England invaded and colonised Ireland. Why then hate Irish people?

As you said, it is a bit like the israel / palestine conflict.

Israel are the aggressor , causing lots of damage.

Yes israelis are taughtt a young age, that it is the palestinians who are bad.

'And I was responding to the blithe suggestion that the broken Gazan people should just overthrow Hamas'
Many support hamas. Many housed hostages then wonder why 'civilians' are sadly sometimes casualties.

We have had many 'broken people' who rebel against terrorist rulers. The aid is sat in trucks, hamas are blockading it. The gazans need to rebel.

To me, your comments seem so cruel. And if you genuinely think that the Palestinian people are in a place where they can overthrow Hamas, ignorant as well.

What will be happening is that the non-Hamas supporting Palestinians will now hate Israel, if they didn't before, which will have repercussions for Israel for the rest of time.

Where are you from @Gloriia ?

Because you are extremely pro israel?

Are you even open to see any point from the other side.?

I used to live and work in the ME. I'm not so much pro Israel more anti a terrorist organisation ruling gaza.

The aid is sat in trucks, hamas are blockading it. The gazans need to rebel.
Have you evidence for this blockade of aid by Hamas? The aid is on the Israeli side of he border how are Hamas there blocking it? are the IDF watching them?

I think it's you, who is denying reality.

I used to live and work in the ME

Like many people who aren't utterly pro Israel?

Yes, as if the IDF would just sit there and watch Hamas blocking trucks in Israel!

more anti a terrorist organisation ruling gaza.

Well you sound very anti Palestinian people in Gaza whether that is your intent or not. I doubt you would find any Hamas supporters here but for most we can separate the terrorist organisation from innocent children and babies staving to death at the hands of the IDF and Israeli government

We've had plenty of examples in areas of conflict where 'dictators' and terrorists are ousted no matter how dire the sitiation is. The sad and baffling fact is that many gazans support hamas.

Why doesnt Egypt take down their massive wall and help? No-one seems to point the finger at that heavily policed border.

Most living and working in the ME are 100% anti hamas, anti hezbollah and support anyone who is trying to get rid of terrorists organisations.

We've had plenty of examples in areas of conflict where 'dictators' and terrorists are ousted no matter how dire the situation is.
They are currently too busy being displaced from place to place and being shot at by the IDF trying to get food, who is currently their biggest threat to life. Honestly you are delusional. If you are talking about about situations like Sadam being ousted can you not spot the difference? It was the US and UK who did that and fought "on behalf" of the population to oust him. Who is supportung people in Gaza to oust Hamas? The IDF see all people in Gaza as Hamas they are a threat to them

I am anti Hamas and Hezbollah, but, like many, I am horrified at what Israel is doing in Gaza. I feel totally different towards Israel as a country than I did 2 years ago.

I guess if you believe that every Palestinian is a terrorist that means your conscience can square the genocide.

Very well said. This is exactly my position

If you think something similar won't happen again you are being very nieve. For any of these children/teenagers left in gaza, when they grow up, if they are lucky enough to do so, they will have a burning hatred of Israel, the likes people haven't seen before. I fear the world will see the retribution for years to cone from what Israel have done. And we in the UK will very much be in the firing line, as it looks like we are happy to contribute and stand by whilst genocide is happening.

The world will be an unsafe place due to this.
People will want revenge.

I think it’s a mixture of what they were taught in school (that the Irish begged the British army to help and then turned on them when they arrived). I think I can vouch for this somewhat as I actually had a unit on Gladstone/Ireland when I did history and still didn’t really learn anything to challenge this narrative and that was in the early 90s. Added to the news reporting at the time - the BBC was notoriously biased regarding the situation. I suppose if numerous sources are telling you something is a fact repeatedly then why would you question it.
Then on top of that my mum worked in a place that was repeatedly disrupted by bomb threats from the IRA (all hoax I think) which didn’t help.

Again a lot of the crap I heard from my parents in the 1980s about Irish people is identical to the crap I hear now about the Middle East - most specifically from people who aren’t aiming to understand the situation - there’ll never be peace there/they like the constant fighting/they’re all born with a chip on their shoulder/fighting over something that happened hundreds of years ago.

Of course it does.

Help by taking down their massive border wall and letting gazans into Egypt or send in aid themselves? They won't though because they don't want hamas and their supporters either.

I'm not enjoying anything but the problem here is hamas, not Israel.

What the UN does and what they should be doing are two different things. All they do is talk, vote and disagree. Waste of time.

Its been going on for decades, every dc has grown up with a burning hatred for Israel. That is the problem and why many gazans support hamas.

@PaxAeterna Thank you for your link to the JP article reporting that the Israeli military have admitted that an IDF Psychological Warfare unit did operate an unauthorized Telegram channel entitled “72 Virgins - Uncensored.”

The contents of the channel are completely disgusting and unacceptable. However, for balance I think it's important to note that it was run by this unit without authorization and without authority from the IDF organisation as a whole.

As reported in your link:

Shortly after the October 7 massacre, on October 9, the unit, whose primary targets are foreign and enemy audiences, created and operated the channel, this time veered toward the Israeli public, without authorization.

The IDF's Spokesperson's Unit told Haaretz that following an investigation, "it was found that the Telegram page was operated by the IDF without authorization and without authority. The incident has been dealt with."

I'm not going to defend the unit or the contents of their videos. The hatred was mainly aimed towards Hamas militants, but not all of it. For Israeli soldiers to take delight in the suffering of Palestinians is as bad as the Palestinians who took delight in the rape and murders of 7/10. Honestly, I think there is evidence of dehumanisation on both sides.

The IDF say the incident has been "dealt with" and I sincerely hope the soldiers have been properly punished for their vile actions.