To think UN should now be in Gaza as a peacekeeping force

[ArtfulGoldWriter]

Seriously, when even the Daily Express are even calling mass forced starvation and putting pictures like this on their front pages.

Surely the UN could act as a peacekeeping force and stop this insanity?

Its obscene.

And do you really believe continuing the destruction of Gaza will actually stop it??

I think the hatred will be on another level.

Well that is life in a conflict sadly. Look at all the Druze getting slaughtered in Syria, look at Ukraine. People don't play nicely in these horrific situations.

Hamas need to surrender, release hostages and allow another hopefully non terrorist party to be in charge so constructive peace talks can start.

It won't happen though, hamas are not going anywhere voluntarily.

Oh, back again are we with the genocide denial- marvellous. Do tell us again why we are all wrong about Israel systematically starving 2 million people 🙄

Part of me thinks that Israel faked the October 7th attack, so they would have an excuse to attack Gaza.

So you think the over 1000 people are still alive somewhere? The hostages were never in Gaza? And what are the witnesses and hostage families, actors?

“The aid is sat in trucks, hamas are blockading it. The gazans need to rebel”. That’s simply not true and it’s dangerous misinformation!

It’s Israel controlling the borders, not Hamas. Aid is sitting in trucks because Israel is blocking it, often for weeks or months at a time. This has been confirmed by the UN, WHO, Amnesty, and multiple aid organisations on the ground.

Since March, the number of aid trucks entering Gaza has dropped dramatically. Even when agencies get clearance, convoys are regularly bombed, looted, or turned away. Aid workers have been killed.

Telling starving, displaced civilians to “rebel” under siege while food is deliberately withheld is not only unrealistic but cruel.

Please fact-check before repeating harmful narratives.

Saying “that’s life in a conflict” while 2 million people (half children) are being deliberately starved, bombed and displaced is an attempt to normalize war crimes. Collective punishment, as Israel is committing in Gaza, is a violation of international law, as is deliberately blocking aid and medical supplies.

Israel’s siege, airstrikes, and mass displacement aren’t retaliation- they’re war crimes. Children don’t deserve to die because of Hamas. Punishing an entire population for the actions of a militant group isn’t justice. It’s a violation of humanity and international law.

What part of collective punishment don’t you understand?

This isn’t just another conflict- it’s the worst humanitarian crisis since World War II, according to the UN’s own head of relief in Gaza. Let that sink in. Mass starvation, aid blockades, the targeting of civilians and hospitals- this goes far beyond war. These are crimes against humanity, unfolding in real time.

“Without authorisation” doesn’t make it apolitical, accidental, or harmless.

This wasn’t some rogue intern. It was a psychological warfare unit within the IDF, which means it was part of a coordinated, militarised propaganda effort. The idea that such a channel could run publicly, spewing graphic, dehumanising content, for months without anyone senior noticing, strains belief.

And let’s be honest: if Hamas ran a “psychological warfare” channel showing videos mocking raped or burned Israeli civilians, it wouldn’t matter whether it was “unauthorised”, we’d rightly be outraged, and many would use it to condemn all Palestinians. So why the double standard?

Also worth noting: the “few bad apples” narrative is the same one Israel uses again and again to brush off illegal settlements, settler pogroms, or the murder of journalists and aid workers. This isn’t an anomaly. It’s a symptom of a system where dehumanisation isn’t the exception- it’s the operating logic.

Only around 44% of eligible voters in Gaza actually voted for Hamas in the 2006 election- the last time any election was held there. That means the majority either voted for someone else or didn’t vote at all. And that was nearly two decades ago, before the blockade, before multiple wars, and before 70% of the population were under 25, most of whom weren’t even alive to vote.

To claim that “Gazans support Hamas” as justification for collective punishment ignores the realities of life under siege, dictatorship, and military occupation. You can’t hold 2 million people (half of them children) accountable for a vote they didn’t cast in an election they never got to have again. That’s not logic. It’s propaganda.

Plenty of people under authoritarian regimes “support” their rulers- not always because they agree, but because they’re trying to survive. Gaza is an open-air prison under siege, where dissent against Hamas is brutally repressed and people are too busy trying to find clean water or keep their children alive to start a revolution. It’s not “baffling” it’s desperation.

As for Egypt: yes, they should be held accountable too. But it’s misleading to suggest the blockade is primarily their doing. The siege was designed by Israel, with Egypt pressured to comply. Israel controls Gaza’s airspace, sea access, and 80% of its land borders. It bombs aid convoys, blocks flour and baby formula, and has deliberately engineered famine conditions.

Pointing at Egypt while ignoring the overwhelming military and political power Israel wields is like blaming the side gate for a house fire when the front door is barricaded and the arsonist is still pouring petrol.

I don’t reply to Boris anymore after misquoting & putting words into my mouth I didn’t say multiple times on other threads.

As they well know because I have explicitly told them several times that I am done debating with them but they keep tagging me.

Happy to reply to comments on my post but not from them.

Holy cow.

It's not life in conflict though.

'These data, says Prof. Spagat, position the war in the Gaza Strip as one of the bloodiest conflicts of the 21st century. Even if the overall number of war victims in Syria, Ukraine and Sudan is higher in each case, Gaza is apparently in first place in terms of the ratio of combatants to noncombatants killed, as well as in terms of rate of death relative to population size.

Data compiled and published by Spagat indicates that the proportion of women and children killed via a violent death in Gaza is more than double the proportion in almost every other recent conflict, including, for example, the civil wars in Kosovo (20 percent), northern Ethiopia (9 percent), Syria (20 percent), Colombia (21 percent), Iraq (17 percent) and Sudan (23 percent).

https://archive.is/fQULe

I don’t agree with this person. I absolutely do not think October 7th was fake by any means.

But I would like to point out that I’ve read post after post claiming that people dying in Gaza is “put on” for the camera.

Both of those claims are equally as disturbing and disgusting as each other.

You can do what you want but stop derailing threads with your own personal arguments please. Ignore and move on no need to announce you are doing this every time. Quoting posters is a function of mumsnet if you don't like it raise it with them or stop posting.

Agreed.

The person holding the baby isn't starving though... I wonder why?

That's because of the population density plus the fact that Hamas deliberately hide among civilians.

The people of Gaza are facing an unprecedented humanitarian catastrophe, with nearly 20,000 children killed- equivalent to a classroom lost every single day for two years- and countless more suffering from severe malnutrition and lack of basic medical care.

Aid and food have been blocked from entering Gaza since March (including baby formula and medical aid), despite being just miles away, intensifying the crisis to levels not seen since World War II. Newborn babies have starved to death.

Since the end of May 2025, over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed while attempting to access humanitarian aid in Gaza. The majority of these deaths occurred at distribution sites operated by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), a U.S.- and Israeli-backed organization. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights reported that as of July 21, 2025, 766 Palestinians were killed near GHF sites, while 288 were killed near other aid convoys . These figures highlight the extreme risks civilians face in their desperate efforts to obtain food and medical supplies amid the ongoing siege and blockade.

This is not simply a war; it is a systematic genocide that targets civilians, especially the most vulnerable, and the international community’s failure to act decisively condemns Gaza’s population to ongoing suffering and death.

We know journalists, medics, and UN staff have been systematically targeted and killed.
We know survivors in Gaza are living without clean water, food, medicine, or shelter.
We know the Israeli government has openly stated it is waging a “complete siege.”
That’s not a narrative. That’s documented, corroborated fact.

Of course propaganda exists on all sides. But this can’t be a shield against moral clarity. We don’t need perfect information to know that mass death, starvation, and displacement on this scale is unjustifiable.

I don’t want to post distressing images, but I urge you to seek out reliable sources and witness the reality of the suffering for yourself.

Understanding the human impact is crucial to truly grasping the urgency of this crisis.
The silence and inaction in the face of this devastation represent a profound moral crisis that demands urgent attention and concrete action to end the blockade and save lives.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Strip_aid_distribution_killings
• https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter
• https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-07-22-2025-8eb90d73c1b7499d3dbc8b8d95da65cc
• https://www.mississippifreepress.org/israeli-forces-have-killed-over-1000-hungry-palestinians-seeking-aid-since-may-un-says
• https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinians-killed-trying-to-reach-aid-gaza-israel-officials-say

People have already repeatedly answered this question. Read the thread.

Babies are the most vulnerable in famine conditions for several reasons:

• No fat reserves: Infants have very little body fat and lower energy stores. They burn through reserves rapidly.
• Faster metabolism: Their small bodies require frequent feeding to maintain basic functions.
• Dependence: They can’t source food themselves. If caregivers can’t feed them- due to lack of food, formula, or water- they deteriorate rapidly.
• Dehydration and infection: Diarrhoea, dirty water, and malnutrition often combine, leading to rapid dehydration and death.
• Visible signs: Babies often show quick physical decline- sunken eyes, crying stops, skin thins, lethargy sets in, and their bodies shut down.

Without adequate food or milk, a newborn can begin starving to death within 24–48 hours.

Adults and Starvation
Adults can physically look “ok” for much longer but that doesn’t mean they aren’t starving:

• More fat and muscle to burn: The body uses glycogen first, then fat, then muscle. Adults have more reserves, which slows visible emaciation.
• Starvation mode: The body downregulates non-essential functions (e.g. menstruation stops, cognitive fog sets in).
• Hidden signs: Extreme fatigue, slowed heart rate, inability to regulate temperature, immune collapse- these are all critical but not always visible.
• Parental sacrifice: Many adults in Gaza are reportedly refusing food so their children can eat, speeding up their own physical decline but delaying visible signs.

An adult may survive several weeks to months depending on initial health and hydration, often appearing “normal” for much of that time.

Thankyou for this.

But my god the fact that you have to post it to appease the genocide deniers on this thread is so deeply fucked up!

Yes we know this, not to this extreme though that dc are emaciated and adults not. We didn't see well fed adults in Ethiopia with starving dc did we whilst there was an actual famine.

These dc with obvious genetic and medical abnormalities are being exploited.

I've no doubt there are challenging circumstances in gaza, hamas are making life impossible for many.

That’s because it’s a man made famine. Israel it blocking the food that is sitting at the boarder. I can show you images of fat men in concentration camps during ww2 what would that prove?

Stop denying what everyone else is seeing.

'Non Hamas civilians' won't hate Israel since 7/10. They were born and raised to hate Jews. This isn't about civilians exacting future revenge.