There is no clean water left in Gaza

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There is currently no access to safe drinking water in Gaza. Families are being forced to drink contaminated water from sewage or agricultural runoff.

This is a man-made humanitarian catastrophe- not a natural disaster. This isn’t just a crisis, it’s a form of collective punishment.

• https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-faces-man-made-drought-water-systems-collapse-unicef-says-2025-06-20/
• https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazans-struggle-find-water-clean-sources-become-increasingly-scarce-2025-04-11/
• https://theprint.in/world/gaza-faces-man-made-drought-as-water-systems-collapse-unicef-says/2664470/

I just wish that Israeli supporters here would read and understand the history of Palestine before they say anything.

If you understood and felt sorry for the millions of black South Africans during the apartheid years, why is it impossible to understand that what the Gazans are experiencing is the same but 100% worse.

Carry on...

Hamas aren’t the ones denying newborns baby formula, slowly starving 2 million people, or cutting off medical supplies. And when Israel is tried for the war crimes they are currently committing, “yeah but Hamas” won’t be a legal defence.

If your concern is truly about suffering in Gaza, then the goal should be ending all forms of violence- especially the deliberate starvation of children, the mass killing of civilians, and the repeated targeting of aid. “Free Gaza from Hamas” has become a slogan used to justify war crimes, as though flattening an entire population is a necessary step to “liberation.”

You don’t free a population by bombing their hospitals, starving their babies, and blocking life-saving aid. That’s not liberation. That’s collective punishment.

As Alex de Waal, executive director of the World Peace Foundation, put it:

“Starvation is being used as a weapon of war, and that’s a textbook violation of the Genocide Convention.”

Nearly 40,000 people have been killed so far. Around 20,000 of them are children.
This isn’t a side effect of fighting terror. It is terror.

Hamas steal aid so, yes, they are denying food and medicine to their population.

They built terror tunnels and operated out of schools, hospitals and mosques. So once again, they are responsible for their population.

Hamas doesn’t care about its population. It cares about wiping out Jews, land expansion and pocketing billions in aid money.

The Israeli government is responsible for the security of its population. And is working hard to achieve it. While also providing aid to its enemy and jeopardising its soldiers’ safety in a war zone. In a war it didn’t initiate.

Hamas are the sole reason Gaza’s citizens are suffering.
It was all fun and games on 7/10 when Hamas were very vocal and celebrating murder.
Israel retaliated and now it’s all woe is me.
Hamas need to be annihilated, maybe then Gaza will find peace

The history that shows Israel accepting the land they were given, but Arabs didn’t agree so decided to attack innocent Jews?

Pro Palestine. The people who love to scream ‘genocide’ without actually having any understanding why Israel retaliated.
Hamas, the terrorists that celebrated the Nova attack yet now cry victim because Israel retaliated

The moment a child starves in Gaza, the conversation should stop being about politics and start being about humanity.

If your first response is “Hamas,” not “how do we stop this suffering?”—then you’ve been conditioned. That’s what propaganda does. It teaches you to feel nothing when the wrong people die.

You’ve been shown Hamas a thousand times—but you haven’t been shown the child with third-degree burns, the mother feeding sugar water, or the UN trucks turned away at gunpoint.

Ask yourself: Who benefits from that?
And why do you trust them more than your own eyes and heart?

then you’ve been conditioned. That’s what propaganda does. It teaches you to feel nothing when the wrong people die.

This is it. It’s the road to hell for sure.

If “retaliation” involves starving 2 million people, blocking baby formula and medical aid, and killing over 20,000 children, it’s not self-defence- it’s collective punishment. That’s a war crime.

This isn’t about who “started it.” It’s about recognising when a response becomes indistinguishable from brutality.

You don’t need to support Hamas or deny Israeli trauma to call out the mass killing of civilians, the targeting of medics and journalists, or the fact that children are now dying of hunger while the world debates technicalities.

If you can’t condemn genocide unless the victims are perfect, passive, and apolitical- you’re not standing for justice. You’re standing for impunity.

So just to be clear… your position is that because of Hamas, over 20,000 children deserve to die? That 2 million people deserve to be starved, displaced, and bombed? That lnewborn babies in incubators, cancer patients, and schoolchildren are legitimate targets of “retaliation”? That’s not justice. That’s collective punishment and it’s illegal for a reason.

Hamas committing atrocities doesn’t give Israel the right to commit its own. You don’t defeat terrorism by becoming indistinguishable from it.

And let’s be honest: Israel has had near-total control over Gaza’s borders, water, and airspace for nearly two decades. Hamas didn’t build that siege. Hamas didn’t bomb bakeries and aid queues. Hamas didn’t kill over 100 UN staff or wipe out whole families in their sleep.

If this was really about freeing Gazans from Hamas, starving them and bombing their hospitals wouldn’t be the tactic. Israel is punishing the entire population- and you’re justifying it.

Palestinians didn’t just “decide to attack innocent Jews.” They were displaced, dispossessed, and made refugees in their own homeland… hundreds of thousands of them! The Nakba isn’t just a footnote; it’s the origin of this entire crisis. You can’t ignore the decades of military occupation, home demolitions, illegal settlements, and systemic dehumanisation and then act shocked when resistance- including, yes, horrific and indefensible forms- emerges.

Acknowledging that doesn’t excuse Hamas. But erasing Palestinian history to frame this as a simple story of “Jews accepted land, Arabs rejected peace” is not just misleading it’s dangerous. Because it justifies ongoing brutality and frames oppression as self-defence.

This isn’t about one historical event. It’s about decades of domination, apartheid, and dehumanisation. And right now, it’s about 2 million people being starved, bombed, and treated as collateral damage.

The idea that “Jews accepted the land and Arabs just attacked” erases critical facts.
In 1948, the UN partition plan gave 55% of Palestine to a Jewish state—even though Jews were only about 1/3 of the population and owned less than 7% of the land.

Palestinians rejected the plan not because they hated Jews—but because they were being ethnically replaced in their own homeland without consent.

Would you accept a deal that gives most of your land away to someone else, imposed by outside powers after colonial rule?

The 1948 war wasn’t just “Arabs attacking innocent Jews.” It was Zionist militias expelling over 750,000 Palestinians, destroying over 400 villages in what Palestinians call the Nakba, or “catastrophe.”

This wasn’t a simple refusal of peace—it was resistance to forced dispossession. And it didn’t start in 1948. Violence, land seizures, and British colonial favoritism toward Zionism had already created years of unrest.

We need to stop retelling this story like it’s a fairy tale of “good guys who accepted peace vs bad guys who wanted war.” The truth is way more complicated—and painful.

Fairy tale? Well that's one way of describing your post, I suppose?

How do you think Hamas and other arab nations view Palestinians?

I know what's coming next..but Hamas accusations. If you cannot understand the evolution of the region and how Palestinians are viewed - not by Israel - YOU are the ones being conditioned @dontthink

That’s a valid question, but also a deflection.
We’re talking about what Israel is doing to Palestinians right now: mass killing, starvation, and siege. Shifting the focus to how Arab nations or Hamas treat Palestinians doesn’t change those facts.

Palestinians can face oppression from multiple sides. Acknowledging that doesn’t cancel out Israel’s responsibility, especially when it’s the one currently wielding overwhelming military power and blocking aid.

If you genuinely care about Palestinian/human lives, the focus shouldn’t be on whether others also mistreat them, it should be on stopping all forms of violence and dehumanisation. Starting with the one happening in real time.

So let me get this straight… you’re saying Palestinians can’t really be victims because other people, including Arab states also treat them badly?

That’s not a serious argument. It’s just an attempt to deflect from Israel’s responsibility by pointing at others’ failures. Yes, Palestinians have been failed by regional governments. Yes, Hamas has inflicted suffering on its own people. None of that makes it acceptable to bomb, starve, or collectively punish over 2 million people.

You don’t have to believe in a fairy tale to recognise a human rights catastrophe when it’s happening. What’s your actual point @Dangermoo ? That newborn babies deserve to be denied formula? That 20,000 children deserved to die? That the biggest humanitarian crisis in history since WWII deserved to be played out because of Palestinians role in history- that Palestinians deserve this because they’ve been betrayed by others too? That’s not moral clarity. That’s dehumanisation.

Nah, can’t blame Israel for accepting what they were given.
Arabs were the ones who initiated attacking a bus load of Jews.

Meh, maybe Hamas should have thought about that before carrying out a terror attack on Israeli soil.

Maybe Hamas should have thought about that.
But maybe we should all think about what it means to justify mass starvation, bombing, and the killing of over 20,000 children as “retaliation.”

What Hamas did on October 7th was horrific. But collective punishment is not justice- it’s actually a war crime. Starving babies, bombing hospitals, blocking aid, and wiping out entire families doesn’t “defeat Hamas.” It annihilates a civilian population.

If your moral outrage only activates in one direction, then it’s not morality- it’s bias.

Well at least you are honest. It’s ok if people are starved and killed as long as they are Palestinian people?

Lol. If Hamas fucked off and let a non terrorist government take over you’d find that the babies won’t be suffering so much.

They have other borders, why are you not accusing Egypt to keep them imprisoned?

“Lol”? You’re laughing while talking about the mass starvation of a trapped population- half of whom are children. That’s not just heartless, it’s disgusting.

And as for your argument: “but Hamas…” won’t stand up in front of the International Criminal Court when Israel is tried for war crimes.

Hamas’s actions on October 7th were horrific. No one is denying that. But they do not justify blocking aid, bombing refugee camps, or starving over 2 million people, including tens of thousands of babies and children.

Israel is responsible for its own actions. It doesn’t get a free pass to violate international law because of who governs Gaza. That’s not how justice works. That’s not how morality works. And frankly, if you’re defending collective punishment, you’re not on the side of peace- you’re on the side of cruelty.

So Israel are willfully starving innocent babies because of Hamas? Not sure you understand what you're admitting to.....