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Conflict in the Middle East

There is no clean water left in Gaza

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 03:08

There is currently no access to safe drinking water in Gaza. Families are being forced to drink contaminated water from sewage or agricultural runoff.

This is a man-made humanitarian catastrophe- not a natural disaster. This isn’t just a crisis, it’s a form of collective punishment.

Gaza faces a man-made drought as water systems collapse, UNICEF says

GENEVA (Reuters) -Gaza is facing a man-made drought as its water systems collapse, the United Nations' children agency said on Friday. "Children will begin to die of thirst ... Just 40% of drinking

https://theprint.in/world/gaza-faces-a-man-made-drought-as-water-systems-collapse-unicef-says/2664470/

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 21/07/2025 18:02

Frummie · 21/07/2025 17:56

Name me another war where the language used was army vs army instead of country vs country.

As to the aid trucks lie, I'll ignore.

I'm not talking about language I'm talking about your query
Has any nation at war ever provided water, food and electricity to its enemy?
If you are referring to innocent civilians here, which is what I am talking about, it's a war crime to block humanitarian aid to them.

As to the aid trucks lie, I'll ignore.
No not a lie, and I'll ignore you from now on if you think simple easily verified facts are a lie

PaxAeterna · 21/07/2025 18:17

Insanityisnotastrategy · 21/07/2025 17:55

How do you think Palestinians view Israel? Zionist pigs (but only the government ofc)? Doubtful.
The war is with Gaza as far as I can see. Hamas are the government of Gaza. Similar to WWII we were at war with Germany, not just 'the Nazis'.
Of course that's a separate point to targeting civilians which of course is wrong and against international law.

Cutting off water and aid supplies is targeting civilians. It’s considered collective punishment.

How do you think Israelis view Palestinians? Would the answer to that justify civilian death?

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 18:19

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 08:00

What does Hamas have to do with Israel cutting off clean water to 2.2 million civilians? They’re not the ones controlling the crossings, bombing water infrastructure, or blocking fuel and aid trucks.

Even if you’re trying to destroy Hamas, it doesn’t justify war crimes against children and civilians. That’s the whole point of international law- it applies regardless of who the ‘enemy’ is.

Hamas being in power doesn’t give Israel a free pass to commit war crimes. Under international law, collective punishment, starvation, and targeting civilians or aid are illegal. ‘But Hamas’ won’t stand up in court.

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Yeah, what does Hamas have to do with the war they deliberately started, and won’t surrender from, as government of Gaza?

That really is difficult to figure out…………

PaxAeterna · 21/07/2025 18:20

UpsideDownChairs · 21/07/2025 17:16

Yes exactly - why is Egypt doing nothing as an un-involved by-stander in this war?

I totally agree - the amount of countries complicit in Israel’s crimes is horrific.

BusyExpert · 21/07/2025 18:24

It is a man made catastrophe caused by Gaza and Palestinians.
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PaxAeterna · 21/07/2025 18:35

Frummie · 21/07/2025 17:56

Name me another war where the language used was army vs army instead of country vs country.

As to the aid trucks lie, I'll ignore.

Aid truck lie?

what are you talking about?

RosaMundi27 · 21/07/2025 18:38

Worriedmum67 · 21/07/2025 06:47

It is very sad but why Hamas don't release the israelian hostages? Hamas could stop all of this but they don't care about the suffering of their own people.

They weaponise all the suffering that they have caused to their own people.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 21/07/2025 18:38

PaxAeterna · 21/07/2025 18:17

Cutting off water and aid supplies is targeting civilians. It’s considered collective punishment.

How do you think Israelis view Palestinians? Would the answer to that justify civilian death?

How do I think they view Palestinians? Not very positively I imagine.

Does the answer to that justify civilian deaths? I assume you mean deliberate targeting of civilians and the answer is obviously no. I'm not sure why you ask such a patronising question or why you think I need educating on collective punishment.

Edited to add: I see you're the same poster putting words into another poster's mouth earlier in the thread too, so I think I'll pass on any further interaction.

Voxon · 21/07/2025 18:44

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 21/07/2025 18:02

I'm not talking about language I'm talking about your query
Has any nation at war ever provided water, food and electricity to its enemy?
If you are referring to innocent civilians here, which is what I am talking about, it's a war crime to block humanitarian aid to them.

As to the aid trucks lie, I'll ignore.
No not a lie, and I'll ignore you from now on if you think simple easily verified facts are a lie

I'm sorry but you are being untruthful. Gaza’s per-day aid flow is massive, unmatched in most active conflict zones.

As a comparison of a similar siege situation, Sarajevo in the Bosnia War....longest siege in modern history....

Sarajevo received an average of 374 g of aid per person per day. Gaza has received an average 635 g of aid per person per day. So basically double.

Throughout that, there was a few key differences:

The UN had to airlift in aid because Slobodan Milošević refused to provide humanitarian corridors.

His Army also didn't help distrubute aid, they actually just shot at planes trying to air drop it.

The Bosnian government didn't steal from or torture the civilians trapped, nor hoard aid from its own people.

Nobody in Sarajevo had any hostages to give back.

So it's important to be real.

Gaza is an unusual situation as its under blockade from all sides but Israel's efforts to feed the population of its opponent are unprecedented.

The needs of Gaza are astronomically high too The UN calculates it at 5l of water per day, per person. 2100 calories per day, per pperson. My household doesn't consume or use anything close to that, not sure if yours does.

The real issue which makes this crisis particularly horrific is the wide scale destruction and sheer displacement. That's what's particularly unique here, but unfortunately when there's a tiny area of land covered in an intricate network of booby trapped tunnels it will take destruction to secure it.

Gaza was run by terrorists rather than an actual government so it was basically just buildings, bombs and terror tunnels. That's never happened before, anywhere, nor have i previously seen civilians held under siege by their own side.

There is certainly a humanitarian crisis, but it's demonstrably not true that Israel is stopping aid going in. At peak 4000 tonnes a day was going in. It would certainly go in faster if the UN would cooperate instead of refusing to work with anyone but Hamas.

People can have hyperbolic conversations to express their passionate hate of Israel, but then it's more about their hate than anything intelligent.

A lot of people are responsible for the suffering in Gaza - Egypt, the UN, the international community and most of all their own leadership.

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 18:49

LipstickLessons · 21/07/2025 17:11

It's hard to know what to say to posts like this. Children are drinking sewage riddled water, people are being executed if the so much as approach the sea, infrastructure has been bulldozed and bombed to make conditions incompatible with life. And people seem to be suggesting that Israel, their illegal occupiers shouldn't have to provide water to the people they have corralled into 10% of Gaza.

How on earth do people think they will be able to get water living in a tent surrounded by destruction with Israel controlling everything that enters Gaza? Is that what happened in Germany, were people trapped in small areas with no way to provide for themselves and 'we' said who cares that children are drinking sewage, it's not our job to help? That's not the history I was taught.

They are kids. Innocent little kids being purposefully deprived of water. Nothing else should matter.

This was posted by the UN in Oct 2023

https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1713868369198207216

Look Feb 2024

https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1762881762768601265

Oh look Apr 2025

https://x.com/UNGeneva/status/1913367167732433224

How many deaths from thirst reported so far?

Much like the 14,000 babies are going to die NOW propaganda which was outed as false.

Must be something happening in terms of terms of significant gains by the IDF in military goals which seems to be when the propaganda starts ramping up.

I imagine Israelis hate this war just as much as everyone else, the Israeli government too, considering the loss of soldiers and the financial, resources and social cost.

The blatant ignoring of pro-Palestinians of Hamas’ accountability and their refusal to surrender, even condoning them refusing to hand over the hostages, and also not calling for the surrounding Arab countries to admit Gazan civilians as refugees for their safety, while they shout about ‘genocide, starvation, thirst and deliberately targeting children’ shows very clearly how much they really care about Palestinian children IMO.

https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1713868369198207216

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 21/07/2025 19:15

Voxon · 21/07/2025 18:44

I'm sorry but you are being untruthful. Gaza’s per-day aid flow is massive, unmatched in most active conflict zones.

As a comparison of a similar siege situation, Sarajevo in the Bosnia War....longest siege in modern history....

Sarajevo received an average of 374 g of aid per person per day. Gaza has received an average 635 g of aid per person per day. So basically double.

Throughout that, there was a few key differences:

The UN had to airlift in aid because Slobodan Milošević refused to provide humanitarian corridors.

His Army also didn't help distrubute aid, they actually just shot at planes trying to air drop it.

The Bosnian government didn't steal from or torture the civilians trapped, nor hoard aid from its own people.

Nobody in Sarajevo had any hostages to give back.

So it's important to be real.

Gaza is an unusual situation as its under blockade from all sides but Israel's efforts to feed the population of its opponent are unprecedented.

The needs of Gaza are astronomically high too The UN calculates it at 5l of water per day, per person. 2100 calories per day, per pperson. My household doesn't consume or use anything close to that, not sure if yours does.

The real issue which makes this crisis particularly horrific is the wide scale destruction and sheer displacement. That's what's particularly unique here, but unfortunately when there's a tiny area of land covered in an intricate network of booby trapped tunnels it will take destruction to secure it.

Gaza was run by terrorists rather than an actual government so it was basically just buildings, bombs and terror tunnels. That's never happened before, anywhere, nor have i previously seen civilians held under siege by their own side.

There is certainly a humanitarian crisis, but it's demonstrably not true that Israel is stopping aid going in. At peak 4000 tonnes a day was going in. It would certainly go in faster if the UN would cooperate instead of refusing to work with anyone but Hamas.

People can have hyperbolic conversations to express their passionate hate of Israel, but then it's more about their hate than anything intelligent.

A lot of people are responsible for the suffering in Gaza - Egypt, the UN, the international community and most of all their own leadership.

I'm sorry but you are being untruthful. Gaza’s per-day aid flow is massive, unmatched in most active conflict zones.
Have you evidence to back up this statement?

People can have hyperbolic conversations to express their passionate hate of Israel, but then it's more about their hate than anything intelligent
I don't hate Israel I hate what the Israeli government and the IDF are doing in Gaza. You can dismiss facts as hyperbole but the majority of the world can see exactly what is happening.

Gaza is an unusual situation as its under blockade from all sides but Israel's efforts to feed the population of its opponent are unprecedented.
This statement alone shows how deluded you are. Stop gaslighting people the evidence of what us happening is clear.
The Bosnian government didn't steal from or torture the civilians trapped, nor hoard aid from its own people.
Oh I'm well aware of the war crimes and genocide in Bosnia. Worked with many Bosnian refugees back in the 90s. Not sure what point you're trying to make here tbh.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bosnian-War/War-crimes-and-trials

Bosnian War - War Crimes, Trials, Justice | Britannica

Bosnian War - War Crimes, Trials, Justice: The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) brought charges against individuals from every ethnicity and nationality represented in the conflict, though the most prominent cases were b...

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bosnian-War/War-crimes-and-trials

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 19:25

Maybe the population will think again before voting to be governed by a terrorist organisation.

TheGrimSmile · 21/07/2025 19:26

Worriedmum67 · 21/07/2025 06:47

It is very sad but why Hamas don't release the israelian hostages? Hamas could stop all of this but they don't care about the suffering of their own people.

You're seriously still blaming Hamas for this? Don't be so naive. It's a fucking deliberate genocide.

BrinkWomanship · 21/07/2025 19:40

Just because the word ‘genocide’ is being touted about by all and sundry, it doesn’t make this a fact. If Israel wanted to kill all of the Gazan population it would have done so by now. Instead, it feeds the population, gets it to move from sites above terror tunnels that will be destroyed, etc. That’s more than Hamas has ever done for its own population.

LipstickLessons · 21/07/2025 19:50

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 19:25

Maybe the population will think again before voting to be governed by a terrorist organisation.

I mean what do you even say to stuff like this. The op posts Families are being forced to drink contaminated water from sewage or agricultural runoff. and people say well that'll teach them a lesson.

These are people, 1 million of them children. The callous disregard for human suffering is outrageous.

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 20:09

LipstickLessons · 21/07/2025 19:50

I mean what do you even say to stuff like this. The op posts Families are being forced to drink contaminated water from sewage or agricultural runoff. and people say well that'll teach them a lesson.

These are people, 1 million of them children. The callous disregard for human suffering is outrageous.

Voting for a terrorist organisation who go on to murder huge numbers of innocent people is pretty outrageous in my book.

What on earth did they expect the outcome of that would be?

I’m just pleased that the UK is starting to arrest and charge those who support such terrorist groups.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 21/07/2025 20:25

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 20:09

Voting for a terrorist organisation who go on to murder huge numbers of innocent people is pretty outrageous in my book.

What on earth did they expect the outcome of that would be?

I’m just pleased that the UK is starting to arrest and charge those who support such terrorist groups.

Ah the "they voted for Hamas 20 years ago so deserve everything they get argument'. Thankfully international humanitarian law doesn't agree with you, the world has moved on from the dark ages.

LipstickLessons · 21/07/2025 20:28

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 20:09

Voting for a terrorist organisation who go on to murder huge numbers of innocent people is pretty outrageous in my book.

What on earth did they expect the outcome of that would be?

I’m just pleased that the UK is starting to arrest and charge those who support such terrorist groups.

Yes you made your point in your first post. You think that the children of Gaza will learn a lesson by being forced to drink sewage.

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:29

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 19:25

Maybe the population will think again before voting to be governed by a terrorist organisation.

👏 👏

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:31

Rusty55 · 21/07/2025 20:09

Voting for a terrorist organisation who go on to murder huge numbers of innocent people is pretty outrageous in my book.

What on earth did they expect the outcome of that would be?

I’m just pleased that the UK is starting to arrest and charge those who support such terrorist groups.

I'm pleased as well. For 19 months, jewish people have been harassed and threatened.

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 20:46

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:31

I'm pleased as well. For 19 months, jewish people have been harassed and threatened.

This was in London recently I think.

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1946915900566966443

Hamas must be so grateful for these deranged imbeciles.

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1946915900566966443

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:49

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 20:46

This was in London recently I think.

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1946915900566966443

Hamas must be so grateful for these deranged imbeciles.

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What a filthy little racist. Thanks for sharing that. This kind of feral behaviour gets denied, repeatedly. I'm glad the trash was filmed.

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:53

What a surprise, one of the commentators, on X, said there was no evidence this was antisemitic behaviour!

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 20:55

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:53

What a surprise, one of the commentators, on X, said there was no evidence this was antisemitic behaviour!

Yep some of the replies show very well what Jewish people are dealing with.

Dangermoo · 21/07/2025 20:57

FriggingInsomnia · 21/07/2025 20:55

Yep some of the replies show very well what Jewish people are dealing with.

He even called her a lady, who looked just to be having a meltdown. More gaslighting. That's no lady and that was a meltdown, alright - an antisemitic one.