Francesca Albanese

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'There are no red lines anymore' says UN Palestinian rights expert on US sanctions

I think expecting a country not to commit war crimes is not holding it to an unrealistic standard, you shout anti semitism it doesn’t work to change the facts.
Was the systematic blocking of aid and medical supplies a mistake? Or an action with genocidal intent?

Mistakes that repeatedly happen are indicative of an attitude that is systematically cavalier (at best) or purposefully malignant towards the safety of innocent Palestinians.

You cannot repeatedly make mistakes and then not learn from them if you genuinely mean well to innocent civilians.

This systemic disregard for Palestinian lives will surely be part of the evidence in future trials regarding alleged genocide?

Albanese job role is to look specifically at the human rights situation in Palestinian occupied territories. She is doing her job remarkably well.

There we already numerous legal cases brought in other countries. I don’t know, but if the case for alleged genocide is successful, it might bring more legal cases against those who facilitated it? Perhaps Albanese is simply highlighting to shareholders and customers?

Exactly, Francesca Albanese's job title is United Nations Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories.

No one has responded to the comment made by @Anonimummy that Francesca Albanese has never ( to her knowledge) called our Hamas for their actions on 7/10 or held them accountable in any way for all the civilians including women & children that have been killed as a result of that massacre.

Has she ever criticised Hamas at all does anyone know?

If not maybe she needs a new job title to reflect the fact she supports Hamas.

This would be consistent in her role as United Nations Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories I think.

Marketing manager for Hamas possibly more appropriate.

Without any evidence to the contrary I'd have to agree!

Rather than focus on the message that she is trying to give, it is safer for some to say she is pro-Hamas and ignore her concerns?

Seems like a convenient way of not wanting to listen to what she does have to say.

I have yet to see any evidence that she has supported Hamas, except that her criticisms of Israel draw attention to the plight of Palestinians.

But what has she done to condemn them and to help get rid of them? If you care about Palestinians surely getting rid of Hamas oppression would be your first priority?

So you can’t provide any evidence that she has ever condemned Hamas for 7/10 or held them accountable in any way for the resulting war?

In the absence of that then yes I will assume she is pro Hamas.

see below comments Albanese made regarding Hamas leadership, stop with the pathetic smears,

Albanese added: "I want justice to be served. I expect it to be served."
"Clearly, Yahya Sinwar was a military target (...) and an individual who had committed crimes and ordered crimes against Israeli civilians, but he should have been tried and brought to justice," she continued.

I think anyone’s first reaction at the moment would be to attempt to halt the starvation, bombing, sniping and maiming of the civilian Palestinian population by Israel which is what Francesca Albanese is focussing on doing

What would 'anyone's' first reaction to 7 October have been?

A sane intelligent person would have been horrified and saddened by the events of October 7th, A sane intelligent person would not have chosen to collectively punish a civilian population and outdo do Hamas in horror and unjustified killing. A sane person would have prioritised the retrieval of the hostages over their own primeval lust for revenge.

This is a thread about Francesca Albanese. What did she do?

Absolutely this! I mean it shouldn't even need saying surely?!

Ooh she sounds like she really hates Hamas with that comment doesn’t she? He was a top Hamas leader and still the worst she could say about him was that he had committed & ordered unspecified crimes. Why not call a spade a spade or a massacre a massacre?

Compare that to the emotive rhetoric she uses against Israel and it’s pretty obvious she is minimising what Hamas did and continue to do.

She is a highly biased commentator- no wonder so many people on this thread love her.

Agreed. And of course we know that lots and lots of palestinians and their allies did not have that 'sane and intelligent' reaction. What did she do about that?

Yet it needs saying that innocent civilians die in wars? That apparently needs to be repeated day in day out with even individual examples of people dying being recounted. Just in case anyone forgets for a minute that the IDF are killing more people than Hamas now.

I think you may be the biased commentator Twiglets, you have expressed zero concern for innocent Palestinians, and as this is mumsnet the children killed and maimed by Israel, the children having amputations without anaesthetic, the women forced to give birth in filthy unsanitary conditions, the women forced to bury the corpses of their families, no one here has justified or condoned the actions of Hamas but by omission you are condoning the actions of Israel

Your post tells me you haven't read any of @Twiglets1 other contributions on this board.

1. That is not true. She has not expressed 'zero concern'. 2. This is a thread about Francesca Albanese not Twiglets.

I will admit that I’m biased in favour of Israel but I’m not in a professional job working for the UN am I? Most of us commenting on these threads have a bias for one side or the other in the war and it’s generally obvious which side we support.

We can still show concern for civilians caught up in the war though & it’s demonstrably untrue that I have expressed zero concern for innocent Palestinians, I have done so on several threads.

Thank you @SharonEllis & @quantumbutterfly

I realised just as I posted my comment above that I had fallen into a trap because once again an attempt is being made to divert away from thetopic being discussed and into a silly personal attack.