Israels plan for Gazas future

[MixedMetals]

Defense Minister Israel Katz said Monday that he has instructed the IDF to prepare a plan to establish a "humanitarian city" on the ruins of Rafah, which would eventually house the entire population of the Gaza Strip.

According to Katz, the plan involves moving 600,000 Palestinians, primarily from the al-Muwasi area, into the new zone after security screening. Once inside, residents would not be allowed to leave, the defense minister said.

Katz added that, if conditions permit, construction of the "city" would begin during the 60-day Israel-Hamas cease-fire currently under negotiation.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-07/ty-article/.premium/defense-minister-israel-to-concentrate-all-gaza-population-in-rafah-humanitarian-zone/00000197-e56a-d1ad-ab97-e5ef764e0000

I meant why are you still trying to score points by repeating the most disgusting propaganda that none of us said about babies in ovens and on washing lines etc.

Please just stop, I'm sure I'm not the only one who found your post upsetting.

Nope. I'm not angry either, don't try that nonsense. I was responding to a post on 'embellishing' and pointing out where it began in this conflict.

They are mentally disturbing I can't imagine who dreamt up such awful things and decided to tell the world that they happened and what their motivations behind it were? It's a pretty awful thing for people to do, spread such stories knowing that they are false.

It's funny because I have seen you on posts where proganda like that has been spread, the pregnant woman one is particularly used on here and you never call them disturbing then. You never say anything at all when people are talking about how awful Hamas are for doing that. I'll be sure to watch out for you correcting such awful things in future.

I don’t believe that Hamas is Israels real problem anymore, no.

Well if people don't think Israel has the right to defend themselves from Hamas then that is just antisemitic (and I'm not a person who throws that term around often at all, this may be the first time).

We might disagree on these boards about whether Israel still should be attacking Hamas so long after October 7th 2023.

But to suggest that a country doesn't have the right to defend itself against terrorists at all ... that's a new low.

I think Israel, with its disproportionate response to Hamas, has caused a shit load more problems to Israel than it was facing before October 7th. And you can thank the Israeli government for that.

Not what I said at all.

I've literally never heard of some of the things you mentioned earlier.

Babies being cut out of pregnant women's stomachs maybe in the early days of the war I may have read about and not commented as probably horrified and not knowing if they could be true or not.

But listing all that gory made up stuff was like something out of a horror movie, it should have come with a trigger warning. And for what purpose?

Your time could be better spent holding Hamas to account for the dozens of children they murdered than trying to bully strangers for an honest mistake on mumsnet. Dontcha think?

You said

You now think Israel should have the right to defend itself from Hamas, because that’s what YOU now believe. Not everyone agrees with you

So yes, you did say that people don't think Israel has the right to defend themselves from Hamas

So you think they are completely defeated now and pose no threat to Israel any more? What is your reasoning?

Yes, very disturbing, and quite triggering.

Well please don't say them again on here because some gullible person will probably read it and think they are true!

See above 22:35.

There you said Israel, with its disproportionate response to Hamas, has caused a shit load more problems to Israel than it was facing before October 7th. And you can thank the Israeli government for that.
That is not an answer to my question.

Maybe you’re using AI or something and didn’t spot it ( who knows ) but it’s worth calling out don’t you think. I’m sure without noticing it you are now glad it’s been corrected. I got taken down twice for a spelling mistake so I think yours is definately worthy of correcting. Mistakes happen but it’s not bullying to call it out and people’s time is their own, what they do with it is nobodies business.

I think that's just wishful thinking on your part.

People will move on to worrying about other wars.

Look at Germany & the UK now - close allies.

Because many people do not agree with Israels disproportionate response. And they lash out. I wouldn’t want to be blamed for Bibi’s mistakes. Unfortunately not everyone will think like that. This is not being anti-semitic. This is calling a spade a spade.

It was lashing out against Israel that got Gaza into this mess so other people would be well advised not to repeat the same mistake.

I wasn't asking for the definition of a spade. I was asking if you think Hamas has been completely defeated and no longer poses a threat to Israel, as you said Hamas was no longer a problem for Istael

I explained many times.
I was busy.
It was a long post.
I meant to say in my long list that Hamas:

1. attacked a kindergarten and
2. killed dozens of kids, as two seperate items But it came out as one.

That shouldn't be complicated to understand. When it was pointed out I immediately apologised and clarified.

My post was about Hamas crimes that day. It listed all of them accurately aside from that one which was pretty obviously a genuine mistake as reflected by my good faith response.

I've posted endless facts on this forum and one has been shown to be false, for which I gave an explanation, apologised and corrected it.

I have corrected false claims from other posters several times - and incidentally not a single one, including on this thread - has done what I did and apologised and retracted. Which is very telling in terms of intent.

Ad hominem is the last thing left when you've got no argument.

I wouldn't bother.

The person you are trying to explain yourself to still thinks that Hamas cares about Gazans.

I think you are refusing to see what now is Israel’s standing on the world stage. Israel has done a lot of damage to its reputation. People are calling it out for what it is doing. If you don’t see that, then why keep asking?

I think that’s a bit trite to be honest. I think the GenZ’s aren’t going to forget this in a hurry. Certainly none of the ones I know.