Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

I disagree. Their are gaining thousands and thousands of views on social media. Before Glastonbury, lots of people hadn't even heard of them.

If you are replying to me I reiterate that you are not a pacifist if you turn to violence.
You may wish to be, many people do, whilst also realising that someone else is standing up and putting their life on the line to defend your belief in pacifism.
My father was one of those people who picked through the rubble as a 14 yr old (he'd already left school), his national service was done in Palestine. It did not teach him to hate, nor his children.

OTOH 3 women I know have been killed by their partners, presumably for 'reasons'.

There'll be broadcasters lining up to show it if BBC pull out

Yes this is where I can't measure the influence. I have no idea how far reaching any influence is - from those with a platform, on this subject.

And it may be because there's absolutely nothing anyone here can do and there will be zero influence at all politically from any of us here.

The only influence I see is negative from those on public platforms in this scenario.

For example, that prick somehow making a certain group of people at Glastonbury really vulnerable for a start.

Because as said from the river to the sea is a call to murder Jews

Correction. Nobody wants to see any brutal campaigns of destruction in any part of the world 👍

What?

I was saying the organisers probably regret allowing Kneecap to play because that encouraged Bob Vylan. Had they taken a stand against Kneecap that would have sent a strong message.

There's no doubt that the organisers regret Bob Vylan's act being allowed at Glastonbury, hence their statement to distance themselves from it.

Well the BBC have said they aren't showing the Bob Vylan performance on iPlayer.

To be honest, it’s common knowledge that Hamas et al want to destroy Israel and to a wider extent, Jews.
It seems lost on most ‘pro Palestine’ activists who would rather mouth off on SM and in the safety of the country who won’t stone you to death.
Nothing else matters in their lives but Palestine. Not even the country that they live in.

Take it elsewhere then, a festival that likes hate speech. If anyone needs that kind of incitement. It won't be at Glastonbury.

This was an observation I was just trying to articulate.

Why are the huge pressing domestic issues not the focus? It all feels like distraction for those partaking in it.

What planet are you on to proclaim free Palestine from your living room in leafy suburbs, when there is no comprehension of what this involves, what this means, what all of it means.

Its sad no one is actually talking about the MUSIC. No one is talking about what a brilliant set Bob Vylan or Kneecap played. Mediocre musicians (at best) get all the publicity but bands playing brilliant MUSIC get nothing. Not a vintage year for Glasto.

I'd like to think there's a wee bit more to Irish culture than Kneecap. Seem like poor man's Slipknot tbh.

Lol poor innocent Irish lads - why does everyone keep picking on them?

They're probably crying to their mammies right now that it's not fair that bigger boys are getting all the attention.

And they don’t actually care about Palestinians in reality. Because otherwise they’d be calling for Hamas to be dismantled

it’s all to do with their own identity and need to be against the “status quo” in their own society. Which in the UK means being against liberal democracy. Idiots.

I prefer Lewis Capaldi and Raye myself 😊

I think that the bands that have been promoting views which are borderline extreme and which incite hatred to different groups of people whoever they may be should not be allowed to perform. I understand that there are many bad who link to a political ideology or a pressure group view but there is a line where this becomes extreme and incites hatred - the encouragement and chanting in this case crosses that line. This would not be allowed in other places so why on a stage - I understand that the police stepping in at the points it was occurring might not have been possible but action should be taken now. I think the BBC should have pulled their coverage earlier.

Hmm ... how would you describe Kneecaps culture?

does the UK still try to repress Irish culture?

It’s about Kneecap advocating for proscribed terrorist organisations - not about them being Irish.

Loved seeing Lewis Capaldi return. Raye is a fab vocalist.

You seemed to think they were vilified because of their 'Irishness'. Not their attention seeking antics.

Where did I mock the death threats that Irish people receive on the streets of the UK? I didn't.

I didn't even know that Irish people were given death threats on UK streets. Do you have any evidence of that?

@NiMaithLiomDeLuain
Death threats on the streets of the UK?