Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Well, thats true, however, Hamas doesn't have the ability to destroy Israel, the IDF do have and are killing huge numbers of Palestinians.

West Bank settler attacks on Palestinians has increased dramatically in recent years, the Israeli govt does little to halt these or prosecute the offenders, even when murder is committed.

Israel rejects any 2 party state solution and supports the deportation of all Palestinians out of Gaza and even the West Bank!

What exactly do you expect the Palestinians to do when faced with level of aggression?

If it was Russia etc doing this in Latvia etc, you'd expect armed resistance, you'd expect Govts around the world to condemn the Russians seeking to kill so many and the potential ethnic cleansing of the people living there, you may even call for us to arm the resistance.....

No death threats for being Irish round here, are you living in a rough neighbourhood in the 1960's.

Aww, Hamas doesn’t have the ability? Am I supposed to feel sorry for them 🤣
Israel accepted the borders initially. Why would they give a crap now that Hamas decided to massacre Israelis having a fab time.

I get it's hard to follow the thread of an argument on mumsnet as posts aren't consecutive or neatly follow a reply, but if you review my posts you will see I have argued the complete opposite.

I mean this is just blatantly not true. There are quite clearly a significant number of people want destruction in many areas of the world

In my post I said 'UK governments discrimination against them, their suppression of their culture and the open death threats to people like them in the UK that get no publicity at all.'

And you came back with 'poor little Irish lads being picked on'.

Would not have thought to check first before mocking descrimintaion and death threats?

A quick Google would have brought up the discrimination court case that they won. A quick Google will bring up death threats like ' All Taigs will be crucified'. A quick Google will bring up the Irish language being suppressed in Northern Ireland. But no, no straight to mocking 'poor little Irish lads being picked on'. It's disgusting that you would jump straight to that instead of taking a minute to educate yourself about what is happening in the UK.

Its a shame Lewis isn't getting more attention, he's an excellent musician and I'm pleased to see him back. I think Gary Numan played a brilliant set too. The bands getting all the publicity aren't in the same league imo. But then again perhaps they know that?
Remember all the attention the Sex Pistols got ? You could hardly call Sid Vicious a musician - he could barely play a note.

No death threats for being Irish round your way so it doesn't happen in the UK or why do think what you are saying is relevant in anyway. Read the news, educate yourself.

When did Israel accept the border? Prior to oct 7th Israel was actively encouraging Israeli settlers in the West Bank, destroying Arun homes and seizing Arab land.
Is that accepting the border??

If they had the ability, does anyone doubt they would use it?😕Allegedly they were hoping Hezbollah would join and help them go further on 7/10.

Some people in US & UK were celebrating the incursion as it happened, even knowing it's brutality. Grim.

Yes but not in the uk

You've been asked for sources, I'm hacked off at any victimisation in the UK, I want to live in a society where we all crack on together.

Exactly. If Hamas had capabilities they wouldn’t go running to Iran et al for help destroying Israel and would have done it already.
People just refuse to acknowledge Islam’s hate for most things not Islamic.

1. Condemning the IDF is not 'giving a platform to jew killers'.
2. Condemning the organisation is not the same as inciting people to 'kill jews'.
3. The actions of the IDF are on the world stage and cannot be beyond criticism.
4. It's not always anti-Semitism 🙄

Yes to this.....

'People just refuse to acknowledge Islam's hate for most things not Islamic'

And how far will people go in reaction to a refusal to buy into the ideology. We have the term Islamaphobia used inappropriately in reaction to this very apt observation now.

This observation is that which very much underpins my rejection of Islam, my dislike of it,my fear of it. I don't want that in my space.

All other things regards cruel, depraved behaviour from all parties in this, yes, I still stand by.

Glastonbury organisers don’t agree with you.

Condemning Islam is not giving platform to right wing thugs
Condemning Islam is not the same as ‘kill all Muslims’.
The actions of Hamas/islamists are on the world stage and can not be beyond criticism.

I tend to notice the aggressive antisemitism where I live.
That's the thing about perspective, yours is different to mine, you may think hamas are misunderstood freedom fighters, I think they're brainwashed psychopaths intent on the destruction of Israel and the jewish people.

Britain handed the problem to the United Nations, which in 1947 proposed partitioning Palestine into two states - one Jewish, one Arab - with the Jerusalem-Bethlehem area to become an international city. The plan was accepted by Palestine's Jewish leadership but rejected by Arab leaders. The following day Israel was invaded by five Arab armies, marking the start of Israel's War of Independence. The fighting ended in 1949 with a series of ceasefires, producing armistice lines along Israel's frontiers with neighbouring states, and creating the boundaries of what became known as the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) and East Jerusalem and the West Bank (occupied by Jordan).
The surrounding Arab states refused to recognise Israel, meaning its borders remained unset.
^^

You do realise that there are Iranian Jews, who live in Iran. In fact the chief Rabbi holds a permanent seat in the Iranian houses of parliament.

Oh right. I tend to look further than my own neighbourhood, I presumed other people do too. They do things like read the news, you should try it sometime, it might broaden your perspective.

Yes and they're not allowed to hold most other political offices, what's your point?

Yes, Christians and few others too. I don’t see your point.

Most people I know are trying to get Irish citizenship and an eu passport

the uk repression of the Irish historically was awful. Happy to be corrected by evidence but the UK government does bot currently have policies to suppress the Irish