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Conflict in the Middle East

Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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mids2019 · 29/06/2025 06:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Bobby Vylan of British duo Bob Vylan performs on the West Holts Stage

Police review footage of chants led by Glastonbury acts

The government condemned chants from rap duo Bob Vylan which were streamed live and called for "death" to the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

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peachescariad · 30/06/2025 12:46

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2025 11:56

Can I ask why Egypt has built a big wall to keep the Gazans out and why none of the neighbouring Arab countries or Turkey have taken in Gazans? In contrast to the huge number of neighbouring countries who took in Ukrainian refugees?

Because historically, most of the Arab states don't like them and don't want them.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:47

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:45

And yet they can’t provide any proof of these hotels open to the public in Gaza so it’s almost as though it’s completely made up, along with their claim Gazans aren’t facing any destruction and are all eating lovely meals in restaurants.

This is what I mean when I say it is deeply rooted in racism against Palestinians. The Israeli government will brag how they have destroyed most of Gaza but some posters will come on to say stop exaggerating, I found some buildings still standing so it can't be that bad!

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:48

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:42

When groups allegedly affiliated with the government attempted to hand out aid in the north of Gaza last week, which has mostly been without aid for over a month guess what happened? They were bombed, alongside those who were collecting the aid.

Do you question why innocent civilians collecting aid are killed? Are you horrified that IDF soldiers are admitting to killing civilians who they know are innocent?

And this has been corroborated by someone other than Hamas?
I am more appalled that Palestine governments are not doing a very good job because apparently 10% are doing fab in occupied territory but the remainder are languishing under leadership that sees ‘death to Israel’ far more of a priority than it’s people

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:48

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:43

The total destruction of Hamas would make me happy. You?

It’s interesting you keep replying to my posts in response to a specific poster, attempting to twist things I’ve said but have no interest in calling out the blatant lies from said poster.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:49

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:48

And this has been corroborated by someone other than Hamas?
I am more appalled that Palestine governments are not doing a very good job because apparently 10% are doing fab in occupied territory but the remainder are languishing under leadership that sees ‘death to Israel’ far more of a priority than it’s people

Yes, by Israeli soldiers and the IDF. Do you want a link? Because unlike you, I'm not lying.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:50

@TinklySnail I am more appalled that Palestine governments are not doing a very good job because apparently 10% are doing fab in occupied territory

There’s no apparently, you’re the only one saying that.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:50

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:48

And this has been corroborated by someone other than Hamas?
I am more appalled that Palestine governments are not doing a very good job because apparently 10% are doing fab in occupied territory but the remainder are languishing under leadership that sees ‘death to Israel’ far more of a priority than it’s people

Who said 10% are doing 'fab'? What's your definition of 'fab'. Is it 'fab' enough for you to go and live under Israeli occupation whilst being under constant threat of attacks by settlers?

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:51

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:48

It’s interesting you keep replying to my posts in response to a specific poster, attempting to twist things I’ve said but have no interest in calling out the blatant lies from said poster.

How have I twisted what you've said?

Its the internet isn't it? We are all free to respond as we wish.

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:51

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:48

It’s interesting you keep replying to my posts in response to a specific poster, attempting to twist things I’ve said but have no interest in calling out the blatant lies from said poster.

Answer the poster’s question. Would the total destruction of Hamas make you happy.
What blatant lies have I told?

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:52

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:51

How have I twisted what you've said?

Its the internet isn't it? We are all free to respond as we wish.

And it’s telling what you’re choosing to respond to and what you’re happy to let sit completely uncorrected.

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:52

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:52

And it’s telling what you’re choosing to respond to and what you’re happy to let sit completely uncorrected.

In what way is it telling?

Are you going to answer my question?

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:53

So much gaslighting. The incensed hate and bitterness against innocent Palestinians is shocking.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:53

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:51

Answer the poster’s question. Would the total destruction of Hamas make you happy.
What blatant lies have I told?

Restaurants, hotels…

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:54

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:52

In what way is it telling?

Are you going to answer my question?

Can you elaborate on your question, and why you’re directing it to me?

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:55

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:25

It’s not really hard to follow that I can get a hotel with a breakfast in Gaza. It seems ethnic cleansing, genocide and starving babies are not something the actual Governments in Palestine seem to care about 🤷‍♀️

@Tinklysnail here is your lie. Because you weren't really talking about Gaza were you?

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:55

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:53

So much gaslighting. The incensed hate and bitterness against innocent Palestinians is shocking.

What's gaslighting?
What's hate and bitterness against innocent Palestinians?

Can you answer direct questions or just chuck vague insults about?

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:57

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:49

Yes, by Israeli soldiers and the IDF. Do you want a link? Because unlike you, I'm not lying.

Lying about what? People in Palestine are actually eating whilst their fellow Palestinians are starving?

Dangermoo · 30/06/2025 12:59

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2025 11:56

Can I ask why Egypt has built a big wall to keep the Gazans out and why none of the neighbouring Arab countries or Turkey have taken in Gazans? In contrast to the huge number of neighbouring countries who took in Ukrainian refugees?

I would love to write the answer but know it wouldn't be allowed to stand.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 13:00

Just vile. I will leave you to it.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 30/06/2025 13:00

SharonEllis · 29/06/2025 08:52

Oh come on.You know full well its the trendy cause of the moment. Its headline news because its Glastonbury and becayse Palestine Action are being proscribed so palestinian activism is headline news . I don't suppose he mentioned the 23 Syrian Christians killed in a bomb attack this week. That just about made it into some headlines. No less relevant to a bunch of middle class people in a field in Somerset. Why was that not the subject of flags and chants?

Are you actually even aware of what’s happening in Palestine currently? The IDF are refusing to even let formula in. Newborn babies are starving to death because their mothers are too malnourished themselves to feed them. Just this week I have seen images of a 2/4/5 month old babies who have starved to death. Reducing this to something that people are just jumping on because it’s a ‘trend’ is wholly reductive and inaccurate.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 13:01

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:57

Lying about what? People in Palestine are actually eating whilst their fellow Palestinians are starving?

Lying about what?

I think you’ll find it’s actually very hard to follow. Where is this hotel in Gaza? How are you booking it? What’s the nightly rate? Is it a full English or a continental breakfast?

“It’s not really hard to follow that I can get a hotel with a breakfast in Gaza. ”

People in Palestine are actually eating whilst their fellow Palestinians are starving?
How do you think starving or limited food sources work? Do you think no one should be able to eat anything until there’s enough food in the entire country?
Having a limited amount of food means many civilians don’t have enough.
Hopefully this is the end of the aid blockade though.

1dayatatime · 30/06/2025 13:02

@Zombiefluff

Go on just answer the question:

"Would the total destruction of Hamas make you happy."

Personally I would rather they simply did the honourable thing and quit, going off to somewhere like Iran thereby preventing further death and destruction in Gaza.

But failing that I yes I wouldn't care if they were destroyed.

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 13:03

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:54

Can you elaborate on your question, and why you’re directing it to me?

Thats the fourth time you haven't answered my questions but just directed different ones at me, or made vague insinuations you've then failed to back up.

Theres no need to elaborate, its very direct. Would you be happy to see the complete destruction of Hamas? You've avoided it for many posts, I dont understand why, I would have thought it a very simple one.

Of course you dont have to answer, its the internet.

As to what you're insinuating about the other poster, I guess they either mistook a hotel in the West Bank for one in Gaza, or they see both places as part of Palestine and are suggesting Palestinian leadership gives no shits about its own. Which I agree with.

PaxAeterna · 30/06/2025 13:05

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:43

The total destruction of Hamas would make me happy. You?

And there we have it. The “total destruction” of Hamas is worth the deaths, the starvation and the despair and ultimately the total destruction of Gaza itself.

Well at least you are honest. Some posters have moved to cloud cuckoo land.

Although, for me, killing, harming and destroying so many innocent civilian’s lives to get to the terrorist population is morally wrong. But you may never agree with that. I do think that trying to “destroy Hamas” without dealing with the roots of the growth of Hamas is also a cloud cuckoo land goal. In fact the conditions for growing extremism are absolutely flourishing now. Peace if it ever comes will be about giving people hope for the future, improving living conditions, negotiation not this. At the moment the hopelessness and trauma will feed that cycle of revenge and violence.

EasternStandard · 30/06/2025 13:07

PaxAeterna · 30/06/2025 13:05

And there we have it. The “total destruction” of Hamas is worth the deaths, the starvation and the despair and ultimately the total destruction of Gaza itself.

Well at least you are honest. Some posters have moved to cloud cuckoo land.

Although, for me, killing, harming and destroying so many innocent civilian’s lives to get to the terrorist population is morally wrong. But you may never agree with that. I do think that trying to “destroy Hamas” without dealing with the roots of the growth of Hamas is also a cloud cuckoo land goal. In fact the conditions for growing extremism are absolutely flourishing now. Peace if it ever comes will be about giving people hope for the future, improving living conditions, negotiation not this. At the moment the hopelessness and trauma will feed that cycle of revenge and violence.

What would you do regarding Hamas though?

If they were still present what role would they have going forward

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