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Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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mids2019 · 29/06/2025 06:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Bobby Vylan of British duo Bob Vylan performs on the West Holts Stage

Police review footage of chants led by Glastonbury acts

The government condemned chants from rap duo Bob Vylan which were streamed live and called for "death" to the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

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Tangfastic71 · 30/06/2025 12:17

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:08

@Zombiefluff Okey dokie 👍
So why can I get a hotel with breakfast in Palestine for 2 nights on July 1st?

Because aid workers need it. Because journalists need it. Are you saying that life in Palestine is A OK?

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:21

Tangfastic71 · 30/06/2025 12:17

Because aid workers need it. Because journalists need it. Are you saying that life in Palestine is A OK?

Oh aid workers and journalists need it 🤣
Yes, let’s starve the kiddies because the predominately white middle class workers need it.
Do you not see how vile this is?

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:25

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 11:32

People still starve because there isn’t enough food to go around.

Community kitchens provide food for free based on aid donations and at a cost to those that have funds. Gaza citizens can’t always cook at home because 90% of them are homeless, many living in tents and camps.

It’s really not hard to follow.

It’s not really hard to follow that I can get a hotel with a breakfast in Gaza. It seems ethnic cleansing, genocide and starving babies are not something the actual Governments in Palestine seem to care about 🤷‍♀️

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:29

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:08

@Zombiefluff Okey dokie 👍
So why can I get a hotel with breakfast in Palestine for 2 nights on July 1st?

Why do you think?
90% of citizens in Gaza are homeless.
If you were displaced and had some income would you not stay in a hotel?
If you had just lost your home this afternoon what would one of your first actions be? For me it would be to find a roof over my children’s head for the night.
Most aren’t lucky enough to have access to this however and are in refugee camps and tents.

Can you clarify what point you are making and what gotcha you think you’re putting forward?

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:32

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:29

Why do you think?
90% of citizens in Gaza are homeless.
If you were displaced and had some income would you not stay in a hotel?
If you had just lost your home this afternoon what would one of your first actions be? For me it would be to find a roof over my children’s head for the night.
Most aren’t lucky enough to have access to this however and are in refugee camps and tents.

Can you clarify what point you are making and what gotcha you think you’re putting forward?

Seems the 10% are functioning very well. Maybe they need to be doing more for their own country.
No ‘gotcha moment’ I asked a question and you went on the defensive.

GiddyRoseCrab · 30/06/2025 12:33

1dayatatime · 30/06/2025 11:47

@GiddyRoseCrab

"I've noticed people calling for this guy to serve the same sentence as Lucy Connolly but for me there is a big difference - Connolly called for a group of people to be set on fire, she was suggesting harm to individuals. His chant absolutely could have meant death to those individuals, however it could have meant death to that particular group in the sense that the group should be disbanded, not suggesting actual murder. Of course, it’s all about intent, but I don’t think the two are the same"

Nice try but bollocks nonetheless.

Firstly Lucy Connolly did not call for a group of people to be set on fire. Instead she stated that she didn't care if a group of people were set on fire. There is a big difference between actively calling for the death and destruction of a group of people and saying that you don't really care if there is the death and destruction of a group of people. Just like many people today don't care about the death and enslavement of Sudanese Christians.

Secondly trying to interpret "death to the IDF" could mean simply the peaceful disbandment of Israel's military is just plain bollocks and you know it.

Eh? Love, your paranoia is showing. ‘Nice try’? Ha ha, I have no skin in this game. If the is guy gets sent to jail I will shrug my shoulders. But actually, ‘Death to the Labour Party’ is a phrase that has been repeated over time - no one used it in the sense that all members of Labour should be murdered, it was about removal of the petty and later failure of the party. Connolly wrote ‘set fire to all the hotels full of the bastards for all I care’ and called for mass deportation, so yeah, as I said, I think intent matters. And I also said he could have meant for them to be murdered and I said I wasn’t defending him. But you’re here defending a racist who posted a racist tweet.

A little critical thinking and fewer conspiracy theories might serve you better. I don’t sit on either side of this conflict before you start accusing me of being a Russian bot or whatever.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:34

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:32

Seems the 10% are functioning very well. Maybe they need to be doing more for their own country.
No ‘gotcha moment’ I asked a question and you went on the defensive.

Is 10% of the country functioning too much for you?
How much destruction would make you happy?

Dangermoo · 30/06/2025 12:36

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 11:30

No, I'm not, although I could ask you and others the same question.

You already have.

1dayatatime · 30/06/2025 12:36

@Tangfastic71

"Lots of complex reasons. "

I agree with you that it is complex but not for the reasons you suggested.

Jordan doesn't want to take Palestinian refugees because the last time they tried that the Palestinian leadership returned the kind offer of refuge by then seeking a coup against the government and starting a civil war to try and take the country over.

Lebanon doesn't want to take the Palestinian refugees because the last time they tried that the Palestinian leadership (after understandably being kicked out of Jordan) returned the kind offer of refuge by seeking a coup against the government, persecution of Christians and starting a civil war.

Kuwait doesn't want to take Palestinian refugees because the last time they tried that the Palestinians sided and co operated with the Iraqi invaders in order to seize assets (houses, cars etc) and positions of power for themselves. After Iraq was defeated the Kuwaitis expelled the Palestinians.

Egypt doesn't want freedom of movement of Palestinians from Gaza into Egypt because the last time they tried that Islamic terrorist groups with support from Hamas used Gaza as a base to attack Egyptian civilians and military in the Sinai.

As you can see there is a bit of a theme going on here which is why most countries in the Middle East want absolutely nothing to do with the Palestinians and are quite happy for it to be Israel's problem.

PaxAeterna · 30/06/2025 12:37

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:21

Oh aid workers and journalists need it 🤣
Yes, let’s starve the kiddies because the predominately white middle class workers need it.
Do you not see how vile this is?

It’s bizarre that you would be giving out about aid workers staying in a hotel. The foreign aid workers and medical staff who have stayed in Gaza are incredibly brave and cannot be remotely blamed for the starvation that is taking hold.

Although I read in Reuters last year that the last operational hotel had been bombed and that property that is still listed in reality no longer functional.

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:37

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:34

Is 10% of the country functioning too much for you?
How much destruction would make you happy?

Oh how emotive 🙄
Why can I get a hotel in Gaza with breakfast while kids are starving?
Why won’t the governments of Palestine help?

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:39

PaxAeterna · 30/06/2025 12:37

It’s bizarre that you would be giving out about aid workers staying in a hotel. The foreign aid workers and medical staff who have stayed in Gaza are incredibly brave and cannot be remotely blamed for the starvation that is taking hold.

Although I read in Reuters last year that the last operational hotel had been bombed and that property that is still listed in reality no longer functional.

It’s not bizarre in the slightest. Why doesn’t the Palestine governments do more because clearly food does enter the place that isn’t food bank shit

YourOnMute · 30/06/2025 12:40

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:08

@Zombiefluff Okey dokie 👍
So why can I get a hotel with breakfast in Palestine for 2 nights on July 1st?

I can't find this. No hotels available in Gaza.
Hotels in the occupied territories yes.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:40

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:37

Oh how emotive 🙄
Why can I get a hotel in Gaza with breakfast while kids are starving?
Why won’t the governments of Palestine help?

Do you think all food should be seized?

I’m not even sure what point you think you’re making. Some people have breakfast and many don’t because there was a prolonged aid cut off.

I would love to see how and where you’re booking this hotel? Feel free to post the proof since your proof of restaurants was dubious at best.
Share the details.

Tangfastic71 · 30/06/2025 12:41

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:21

Oh aid workers and journalists need it 🤣
Yes, let’s starve the kiddies because the predominately white middle class workers need it.
Do you not see how vile this is?

I’m not sure I really follow your point to be honest and I’m not the only one. Of course I don’t think it’s ok for children to be starving and I completely misunderstood what you were trying to say. I’m still not sure. I think you’re saying that Hamas are complicit in the starvation of their own population but I haven’t seen anyone supporting Hamas? Sometimes a crisis has more than one villain.

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:41

YourOnMute · 30/06/2025 12:40

I can't find this. No hotels available in Gaza.
Hotels in the occupied territories yes.

So still Palestine yes? Occupied by Israel? It seems Palestinians fair better under Israel than the do their ‘proper’ governments

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:42

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:37

Oh how emotive 🙄
Why can I get a hotel in Gaza with breakfast while kids are starving?
Why won’t the governments of Palestine help?

When groups allegedly affiliated with the government attempted to hand out aid in the north of Gaza last week, which has mostly been without aid for over a month guess what happened? They were bombed, alongside those who were collecting the aid.

Do you question why innocent civilians collecting aid are killed? Are you horrified that IDF soldiers are admitting to killing civilians who they know are innocent?

PaxAeterna · 30/06/2025 12:42

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:41

So still Palestine yes? Occupied by Israel? It seems Palestinians fair better under Israel than the do their ‘proper’ governments

Sorry so are you booking a hotel for July 1st in Gaza or the West Bank?

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:42

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:29

Why do you think?
90% of citizens in Gaza are homeless.
If you were displaced and had some income would you not stay in a hotel?
If you had just lost your home this afternoon what would one of your first actions be? For me it would be to find a roof over my children’s head for the night.
Most aren’t lucky enough to have access to this however and are in refugee camps and tents.

Can you clarify what point you are making and what gotcha you think you’re putting forward?

I think the poster is perhaps making the point that if theres a room with breakfast available in Gaza then perhaps the government of Gaza should make sure that room is used for the most vulnerable ie, mothers with babies and very small children.
But I'm sure the poster can speak for themselves.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:43

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:41

So still Palestine yes? Occupied by Israel? It seems Palestinians fair better under Israel than the do their ‘proper’ governments

Which hotel did you want to book in Gaza?

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:43

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:34

Is 10% of the country functioning too much for you?
How much destruction would make you happy?

The total destruction of Hamas would make me happy. You?

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:44

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:41

So still Palestine yes? Occupied by Israel? It seems Palestinians fair better under Israel than the do their ‘proper’ governments

Israel is not engaging in a prolonged indiscriminate attack on the West Bank from the sky.

You’re being completely obtuse and no one is buying it.

Your points have no logic and sound like the ramblings of a drunk propped up at the bar.

YourOnMute · 30/06/2025 12:45

TinklySnail · 30/06/2025 12:41

So still Palestine yes? Occupied by Israel? It seems Palestinians fair better under Israel than the do their ‘proper’ governments

These hotels are not in Gaza. I think it's very important to point that out, considering you stated you could book one in Gaza.
Why shouldn't there be hotels in Palestine? I don't understand your point?
Even if a country is occupied or colonised there can be active businesses there. I presume the hotel could be owned by Palestinians, Israelis or even people of other nationalities.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 12:45

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:42

I think the poster is perhaps making the point that if theres a room with breakfast available in Gaza then perhaps the government of Gaza should make sure that room is used for the most vulnerable ie, mothers with babies and very small children.
But I'm sure the poster can speak for themselves.

And yet they can’t provide any proof of these hotels open to the public in Gaza so it’s almost as though it’s completely made up, along with their claim Gazans aren’t facing any destruction and are all eating lovely meals in restaurants.

Pigeonpoohelp · 30/06/2025 12:45

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 12:42

I think the poster is perhaps making the point that if theres a room with breakfast available in Gaza then perhaps the government of Gaza should make sure that room is used for the most vulnerable ie, mothers with babies and very small children.
But I'm sure the poster can speak for themselves.

Or maybe that poster is just gaslighting and deliberately lying. You can't book any hotels in Gaza. Unless they want to share the link with us.

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