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Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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mids2019 · 29/06/2025 06:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Bobby Vylan of British duo Bob Vylan performs on the West Holts Stage

Police review footage of chants led by Glastonbury acts

The government condemned chants from rap duo Bob Vylan which were streamed live and called for "death" to the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

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EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 18:33

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:29

You’re replying directly to my comments and bringing up things that aren’t a part of that discussion. Crack on and talk about whatever you like but don’t at me if you’re not going to engage in the conversation you’re inputting yourself into.

I can comment as I like thanks. And I’ll ask posters if they’ve considered those impacted by the incitement.

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:34

Ultimately a lot of the objection to Kneecap is hand-wringing about Irish republican politics by people who have never experienced partition or occupation and have the privilege of endlessly pontificating about the 'right' way to rebel against it. That they stand with another country partitioned by Britain isn't a surprise. They wear their politics proudly and that fucks people off. Tiocfaidh ar la ✌

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 18:35

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 29/06/2025 18:28

We are stuck then aren't we? We can't criticise the IDF?

You can’t use Glastonbury to incite hatred and violence no. If people want to criticise they’ll have to find other ways.

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:37

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:22

They don’t care. They hate Jews or don’t care about them. I honestly don’t understand why but here we are.

Or Muslims? Take your pick.

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:37

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:28

My point is that Kneecap is calling for death to the IDF - where would that leave Israel. And how can you not see that is calling for the victory of Hamas?

Not sure why this is directed at me, I haven’t called for the death of the IDF, nor have I condoned the comment which no, it was not by Kneecap, and as far as this thread goes almost no one has said the comments were acceptable.

I will however feel like I have a right to be critical of many of the actions directed by the IDF.

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:37

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:34

Ultimately a lot of the objection to Kneecap is hand-wringing about Irish republican politics by people who have never experienced partition or occupation and have the privilege of endlessly pontificating about the 'right' way to rebel against it. That they stand with another country partitioned by Britain isn't a surprise. They wear their politics proudly and that fucks people off. Tiocfaidh ar la ✌

quite. A historical dynamic that has in fact changed and moved on in Ireland that has no relevance to a situation on the other side of the world with Islamic terrorists is being shoe horned to make people
in liberal democracies who have not that much to rebel about feel like they’re cool. You make my point well.

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:39

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:37

Or Muslims? Take your pick.

Why fear radical Islam? Have you heard what they want to do to the West? You remember the London bombings yes? Manchester Arena?

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:41

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:37

quite. A historical dynamic that has in fact changed and moved on in Ireland that has no relevance to a situation on the other side of the world with Islamic terrorists is being shoe horned to make people
in liberal democracies who have not that much to rebel about feel like they’re cool. You make my point well.

Not sure you can really count NI as a liberal democracy when it hasn’t been given the right for a border poll to end British rule though.

BakedBeansforabrain · 29/06/2025 18:41

mids2019 · 29/06/2025 14:23

This was blatant anti semitis m and given that conscription is in force in Israel it was tantamount to declaring death to all young Israelis. This is simply wrong.

The horrible irony is that many of the victims of October 7th were at a music festival when they were slaughtered and yet at a British festival purportedly dedicated to leave here we are with chants of death to active soldiers. His help us.

I actually have been to Glastonbury and its a great music festival. I do hope Michael and Emily Eavis reflect on this for 2026 when considering rules for perfomance . Certainly they are going to be very circumspect about invitees next year and it could well be bigger pop names will not want to be associated with a festival that allows bikes racism in stage so real care has to be taken in future.

There is no Glastonbury in 2026

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 29/06/2025 18:42

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:37

Or Muslims? Take your pick.

Fear Islam you mean. And yes I do. And yes I reject what it stands for. And yes, I don't want that.

Not once have I seen a comment about a problem with a Muslim person. Many I imagine are victims of the regime of barbarism and insanity, with little choice in that unfortunately. Probably mostly females and children in that camp.

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:43

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:41

Not sure you can really count NI as a liberal democracy when it hasn’t been given the right for a border poll to end British rule though.

🙃

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:44

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:39

Why fear radical Islam? Have you heard what they want to do to the West? You remember the London bombings yes? Manchester Arena?

You remember the riots last summer? Yes? That hate induced anti-Muslim mob? That was actually nothing to do with Muslims?

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:44

2024onwardsandup · 29/06/2025 18:37

quite. A historical dynamic that has in fact changed and moved on in Ireland that has no relevance to a situation on the other side of the world with Islamic terrorists is being shoe horned to make people
in liberal democracies who have not that much to rebel about feel like they’re cool. You make my point well.

I think the continues knicker wetting about Irish republicanism makes the opposite point.

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:45

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 29/06/2025 18:42

Fear Islam you mean. And yes I do. And yes I reject what it stands for. And yes, I don't want that.

Not once have I seen a comment about a problem with a Muslim person. Many I imagine are victims of the regime of barbarism and insanity, with little choice in that unfortunately. Probably mostly females and children in that camp.

Gosh. Don’t know any then?

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 29/06/2025 18:47

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:44

You remember the riots last summer? Yes? That hate induced anti-Muslim mob? That was actually nothing to do with Muslims?

Many things can be true at once. I believe that innocent people were hurt because they happened to be a Muslim. This is not ok.

Why do you think we are having so much unrest though? Do you think it's just a collective of racist pie heads? Or is it possible there is some truth in the fear felt - even by the 'uneducated masses' losing their shit. Is it possible that it is not simply racism?

Dangermoo · 29/06/2025 18:47

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:44

You remember the riots last summer? Yes? That hate induced anti-Muslim mob? That was actually nothing to do with Muslims?

Oh well, you won't mind a bit of consistency, when two bit rap 'artists" get put away for inciting hatred against Jews.

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:47

Hamiltonfan · 29/06/2025 18:10

There is no genocide.
If Israel really wanted genocide it would flatten Gaza from the air - it has the capabilities to do so - rather than risk it's soldiers lives.
And for all those slating the IDF - please remember Israel have a national conscription scheme. They are not some evil force but the sons and daughters of all citizens.

They have flattened Gaza for fucks sake.

Tontostitis · 29/06/2025 18:47

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 06:19

Dunno. They seem to have forgotten what happened at another music festival, with innocent young people enjoying the music before they were the victims of an atrocity.
Perhaps a nod to that would have been appropriate.

Well said

Insanityisnotastrategy · 29/06/2025 18:48

NiMaithLiomDeLuain · 29/06/2025 17:15

@Insanityisnotastrategy Yup because like I said some people care more about a foreign kiddie maiming army than they do their own citizens. Its like there may be a connection there between people defending and caring about a foreign army currently engaged in the mass slaughter of Muslims and the weird posts about Halal meat and being afraid of Muslims taking over. I don't know, all I know is it's definitely not because people care about hate crimes, that's been made clear.

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Start. Your own. Thread.

The cheek of wanging on with your obvious derail and claiming that as evidence people only care about one thing.

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 29/06/2025 18:48

Dangermoo · 29/06/2025 18:47

Oh well, you won't mind a bit of consistency, when two bit rap 'artists" get put away for inciting hatred against Jews.

And the excellent point you make is......we know they won't.

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:50

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Hamiltonfan · 29/06/2025 18:51

usedtobeaylis · 29/06/2025 18:47

They have flattened Gaza for fucks sake.

Ummm no they haven't. Unfortunately Hamas hide amongst civilians and in tunnels. Have you tried to blow up a tunnel without touching the building above it?

Lots of Gaza is functioning normally. I follow a few restaurants who are doing a roaring trade and manage to post photos of their produce daily, despite there being no internet or food.

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:52

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 29/06/2025 18:47

Many things can be true at once. I believe that innocent people were hurt because they happened to be a Muslim. This is not ok.

Why do you think we are having so much unrest though? Do you think it's just a collective of racist pie heads? Or is it possible there is some truth in the fear felt - even by the 'uneducated masses' losing their shit. Is it possible that it is not simply racism?

It sounds like you’re saying violence against Jewish people is unjustified but violence against Muslims in the UK is justified by your claim that there is truth to the fear?

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 18:55

Hamiltonfan · 29/06/2025 18:51

Ummm no they haven't. Unfortunately Hamas hide amongst civilians and in tunnels. Have you tried to blow up a tunnel without touching the building above it?

Lots of Gaza is functioning normally. I follow a few restaurants who are doing a roaring trade and manage to post photos of their produce daily, despite there being no internet or food.

In January 60% of buildings in Gaza had been destroyed. I dread to think what the tally would be after the last few months. Even if we wildly assume no further damage its just objectively not true to claim it hadn’t been destroyed when they have less than half the infrastructure and buildings.

“lots of Gaza is functioning normally” is just factually incorrect.

veiledsentiments · 29/06/2025 18:56

Dangermoo · 29/06/2025 18:47

Oh well, you won't mind a bit of consistency, when two bit rap 'artists" get put away for inciting hatred against Jews.

As I said earlier about the Israelis shouting death to Arabs at a football match in Amsterdam. It’s a two way system.

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