Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Yep. It’s happening all over. Some people also disagree with halal meat, it’s cruel. But no one listens to them. Minor example but representative.

If Israel really wanted genocide it would flatten Gaza from the air

Gaza is just about 60% flattened, I’m amazed anyone is suggesting that is reining it in, and Israel choosing not to flatten it?

They are not some evil force but the sons and daughters of all citizens.

Truly not sure your point, everyone is a son or daughter at the end of the day. That fact doesn’t make anyone’s actions more acceptable.

Who they invite. Do you feel anything for Jewish people here who’ve said this kind of incitement impacts them?

You seriously don't have a problem with a band whipping up a crowd to shout 'death to' a group of people? You honestly think that's ok?

The behaviour of these bands particularly the chanting and inciting the audience to do so is so wrong, whatever view people have this was not the time or place to make a point. People attended that concert with a range of political views and from a range of cultures. I hope that in future it is made clear to artists that this sort of behaviour is criminal and they are not above the law

Have you condemned Hamas? Have you protested against them? They are the terror group who started this.

Just imagine if 1000 people this weekend had been slaughtered at Glastonbury. Would you expect our government to just hold their hands up and say "oh well"? Or would you expect them to fight back?

They don’t care. They hate Jews or don’t care about them. I honestly don’t understand why but here we are.

No, the conversation you’re joining was people shouldn’t bother to speak out about anything because it achieves nothing and I personally think the only thing that has encouraged the UK to be more critical of Israel’s actions was the very clearly and growing public opinion that what they’re doing is unacceptable. So speaking up does achieve things and it’s very much an attempt at silencing an opinion to say to shouldn’t bother making your opinion known.

That has nothing to do with Glastonbury or Jewish people in the UK. Neither were relevant to my comment or what it was replying to.

What do you think would have happened to Israel on October 7 if it wasn’t for the IDF?

Free Palestine - from Hamas.

You seriously don't have a problem with a band whipping up a crowd to shout 'death to' a group of people?
Never said I didn't have a problem with the chants, I said I did not condone them but I don't have any sympathy for an army that kills children, shoots innocent civilians trying to get aid and turns a blind eye when settlers are burning down peoples properties. Hard to believe that appears to be a controversial view.

So it was alright for the Israelis at Amsterdam in November 2024 at a football match- Marconi Tel Aviv supporters, to shout death to Arabs? That’s ok?

Imagine if the IRA had slaughtered and raped 1400 at Glastonbury - because that’s the Kneecap analogy…

I’m joining a thread on the topic of Glastonbury.

What is chanted there impacts UK people. Which is why people have spoken up.

What’s your point? No person is 100% evil, but someone isn’t not evil for being a son or a daughter or conscription.

October 7th was an awful attack on Israel, that does not wash the hands of Israel or every solider in the IDF of any wrong doing.

Because you’re not acknowledging the impact on people. It incites hatred and violence as Glastonbury said in their statement.

Do you understand that it’s not like a football match where people pick a team? It’s about minimum standards applying to all regimes. Both of these examples can be unacceptable.

What is chanted there impacts UK people. Which is why people have spoken up.
Are UK people in the IDF?

My point is that Kneecap is calling for death to the IDF - where would that leave Israel. And how can you not see that is calling for the victory of Hamas?

So petulance is something to be proud of? Oh dear, and I thought this was more about human lives, than egos.

I agree. Both are unacceptable. But it swings both ways.

We are stuck then aren't we? We can't criticise the IDF?

You’re replying directly to my comments and bringing up things that aren’t a part of that discussion. Crack on and talk about whatever you like but don’t at me if you’re not going to engage in the conversation you’re inputting yourself into.

Have you protested against Hamas? The idf had to respond to the attack on 7/10 which killed over 1000 at a similar festival

Nope, that will just come back with the glib response "but Hamas".

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