Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Quite. No one’s going around worried about Budhistphobia or Sikhphobia are they

I'm not so sure you do. But of course nobody knows everything, not even you.

I get Irish citizenship automatically if I apply. My husband and children say go for it.

What's happening over there at the moment stays my hand. Wales feels safer. My Irish family are either in the UK or far flung around the world.

I thought it was demonisation of the IDF and Israeli Government? Were they chanting "death to Jewish people"? I didn't read that anywhere?

Disingenuous.

The Met have dropped the charges again Mo Chara. Looks like Kneecap are free to play another day.

No because they don’t pose a threat.
Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Catholicism and so on.
The reason we have Islamophobia is because it seems we shouldn’t mind hurty words and red paint on army planes; but we also shouldn’t ridicule a religion if that religion is Islam. Hurty words definitely matter then 🤷‍♀️

Well surely if Iran wanted to kill all the Jews, along with Hamas, they’d start with their own.

Death threats against Irish Catholics are still commonly seen on the streets of the UK and nothing is done. No big headlines. No outraged threads. Nothing. People on this thread from the UK have no idea that it even happens so they feel happy mocking victims as 'poor little Irish lads' and asking people if 'they live in a bad neighbourhood' because they do know about it because if they don't see it it just doesn't happen.

Charges that have now been dropped against an Irish band member who has a history of discrimination from the UK government on the other hand, how many headlines and threads has that garnered?

The chants at the festival are not really about the conflict at all. Its about the dramatic rise in antisemitism in this country, how the pro-Pal movement became a conduit for antisemitism in this country, and how people in this country were gaslighting and obfuscating and turning the other way while it happened.

Sorry @NiMaithLiomDeLuain I still don’t see the Irish lads as victims however hard you try to pretend they are the victims in this scenario.

Why aren't we also discussing Yemen - the forgotten war. The one nobody is waving flags about, the one that students aren't marching in UK cities about - the one that actually nobody gives a fucking shit about. There have been more children killed there than Gaza, far greater starvation and destruction and it's been raging for 10 years. Maybe Arabs annihilating other Arabs isn't sexy enough for Glastonbury?

Feel free to start a thread about it seeing as you’re the only one that seems to think this Irish band member is a victim.

It feels quite accurate what you just posted. And I don't even understand the full extent of what is going on.

I appreciate i may have fallen down a vortex through media I have consumed ( and I avoid most of it). I do however agree with everything Douglas Murray is saying about all this and I've seen a few things and tried to resist the possibility it's a reality. It resonates with what you have said.

@Quirkswork

"Yes I agree. But logically you are therefore saying that we are all responsible for the actions of our own governments. So all Palestinians are responsible for the actions of Hamas.

Populations are being screwed by their leaders. And that includes us."

Yes by voting for a particular party we are responsible for the Government we get - who else is to blame? And as a result we get to take the consequences of that choice.

Let's take a couple of examples:

In 1933 the German voters voted for the Nazi Party making them the largest party and the Government. The Nazi Party then went on to start WW2 resulting in the destruction of Germany and the death of up to 2 million civilians including many children. Now what should the allies have done - refuse to fight Germany because of their nasty leader and Government and let's not kill innocent civilians? That's not how wars work and it's incredibly naive and simply wrong to suggest otherwise.

To take a less dramatic example, the majority of British farmers voted for Brexit and as a result are financially much worse off. Are they absolved of any responsibility for their choices?

Voters are responsible for the leaders they choose to vote for. If the majority of voters decide to vote for Reform at the next election and Reform goes through with their promise to radically reform the NHS, can those same voters complain about the loss of free healthcare after they knowingly voted for it?

@SharonEllis I would have to agree with you.
Antisemitism was not on normal folks radar (rightly or wrongly) and wouldn’t actually know you were Jewish unless you told them.
It’s not your ‘right wing thugs’ who are responsible for the rise in antisemitism.

What streets? Where?

This was blatant anti semitis m and given that conscription is in force in Israel it was tantamount to declaring death to all young Israelis. This is simply wrong.

The horrible irony is that many of the victims of October 7th were at a music festival when they were slaughtered and yet at a British festival purportedly dedicated to leave here we are with chants of death to active soldiers. His help us.

I actually have been to Glastonbury and its a great music festival. I do hope Michael and Emily Eavis reflect on this for 2026 when considering rules for perfomance . Certainly they are going to be very circumspect about invitees next year and it could well be bigger pop names will not want to be associated with a festival that allows bikes racism in stage so real care has to be taken in future.

.....At a London show last year, the 27-year-old rapper, whose real name is, Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh, seemingly wrapped himself in a Hezbollah flag and yelled, “Up Hamas! Up Hezbollah!” .....
.....After the UK government launched its Kneecap investigation, the group released a staetment, saying, “Let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah… An extract of footage, deliberately taken out of all context, is now being exploited and weaponised, as if it were a call to action.” .....

He must have meant up hamas! up hezbollah! in the same context as up yours! the little scamp.
I don't think islamists take insults well but luckily he should be far enough away not to incur their wrath.

They were chanting 'Death to the IDF' presumably due to the horrific amount of murders the IDF carry out on a daily basis. Nothing about shouting 'death to Jews'

The UK.

What worries me most is that it is a very small step from sympathising with Bob Vylan chanting "death to the IDF" and sympathising with Palestine Action who hospitalised a female policewoman with a sledge hammer. To then actively supporting such hate and terrorism.

To then becoming a violent activist committing such attacks.

where is the danger coming from?

That’s my point….

Bollocks